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Old 09-25-2025, 11:55 AM   #41609
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I agree Mahomes is not QB1 in the NFL right now, but honestly at this point, he's chasing Montana and Brady, not really competing with any current QB in terms of legacy.

Now if Allen/Jackson/Burrow get a couple SB titles, that can change the narrative, especially if they beat Patty in the playoffs on the way to the chip.
Interesting....Those 3 guys have all lost to Mahomes in the playoffs the last time they've played him (Allen 4 times).

And also, why is Joe Burrow even in this conversation? Can we drop him already? This will be the 3rd straight year the guy hasn't made the playoffs, he has 0 MVPs, 0 All Pro selections, and just 2 Pro Bowls.


So if we we want to drop Mahomes from the title of "League's best QB" based on a 1-2 start and a year he played poorly in the Super Bowl, after outplaying Josh Allen once again in the AFC Championship game, then here are our choices:

1. Josh Allen. 0-4 against Mahomes in the playoffs, most recently 4 games ago for him.

2. Lamar Jackson. A career 3-5 playoff record, has never won more than 1 playoff game in a season, also has a 1-2 record this year. Lost his only playoff game against Mahomes at him in the AFC Championship game.

3. Herbert? We calling for him now? A guy who's never won a playoff game and is 2-7 career vs Mahomes.

4. Baker? Nah, we're not going to him yet.

The only guy you can make any good case for not shrinking in the biggest moment or not totally falling off the face of the earth the last 3 years for is Jalen Hurts. There's not much you can say about Hurts not playing well when it matters, or not doing what's asked of him to win. The other side of that is he has the best running back in football, the best oline in football, some pretty good pass catchers, and a very good defense. But maybe you don't want to ding him for that and give him the benefit of the doubt that if his job was to throw for 300 yards, maybe he'd throw for 300 yards.

Otherwise, I'm not going to overreact a quarterback who's thrown 43% of his passing yards to guys who were cut by the Patriots last year (since his top 2 receivers are out), while being the team's leading rusher and putting his team in position to win 2 out of the 3 games this year.

And yes, there is a distinction between "League's best QB" and "QB who's had the best 3 games this year". Otherwise we'd be talking about Daniel Jones as the League's best QB, just like Tua would have been 2 years ago, and Russell Wilson a couple years before that.
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