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Originally Posted by seanrs1
Do you think this is mainly economy related or is their a problem with the singles baseball card market? Do you think consumers are tired of paying a lot of money for a product (wax) that has a negative value once opening? Or could sports collectors just not be into baseball anymore?
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If you are talking about the US economy, no, that is not the problem.
I don't think consumers are tired of paying a lot of money for wax. If they were, the price would come down.
I am not even convinced that the sportscard market as a whole is not growing, at least in terms of money flowing in. The only thing I'm sure of is the money flowing out is greater than the money flowing in.
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Originally Posted by LVDan
Yes to all IMO
Without a freakshow young talent tearing up the league at a historic pace this year it has exposed all of the above and more
Acuna, JRod, Carroll and more disappointing investors
Ohtani going one way(albeit with great numbers)
Judge, Soto and Gunnar just aren’t moving the needle enough to make up for the flipside
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The problems is Gunnar is only up 60% as of last check. Soto is barely up, to the point I'd call him flat. I don't track Judge any more, but I'm familiar enough with his market to know he's up, but not huge. Last year Acuna, with his historic season, peaked at up 60% and finished up 10%.
In 2018-2021 it was not uncommon for guys to be up 2x, 3x, even 4x. And not just low level bums that had huge breakouts. The biggest stars/seasons would explode. In 2022 and 2023 the only player to have a 2x season is Judge in 2022 with his 62 HR. Nobody is up 2x at this point, so it's pretty unlikely we get one this year.
On the flip side, in 2019 only 8 out of 28 players ended up down more than 30%. So far this year we're already at 10 out of 25. Odds are several more will join the ranks. It was very rare for a player to lose more than 50% in one year back then. In 2019 0 of 28 lost that much. Already 3 out of 25 are at that level this year, with more to join them once we get into the post-National lull.