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Originally Posted by tblood
I saw your post about Ohtani saying he isn’t hurt, but I still wanted to quote this one to make a couple points... Dead arm is a loosely used term to describe a wide range of symptoms. Anywhere from “just not feeling it” to legitimate injury. It doesn’t always relate to fatigue and I think it can actually be a psychological side effect. On the less severe side of the spectrum, it is a very strange sensation. Like your arm is a rebellious teenager that doesn’t want to listen to what your body is trying to tell it to do. It’s hard to know what your arm is doing or where it is going. Decreased control is more common than losing velocity in my experience, BUT the loss in control actually forces the pitcher to sacrifice velocity in order to still hit locations. It might explain why some of his pitches looked like he was trying to place the ball in the catcher’s mitt but who knows?!
To one of the other comments regarding when Ohtani should have been pulled... The first inning was not the first time the coaches saw what Ohtani had tonight. They knew well before that after watching his warmups and talking to him. As bad as you may think the Angels organization is at managing pitchers, I guarantee you their coaches and staff hound the heck out of the pitchers on game day asking them repeatedly how they are feeling. They also talk to the catcher every bit as much as the pitcher because they can offer accurate and unbiased feedback. This isn’t their first rodeo and they have watched Ohtani throw significantly more pitches than any of us have.
Again, I really don’t think he would have been in the outfield after he walked off the mound if he was experiencing serious fatigue. It is mid-May against a non-divisional opponent. No reason to push the issue. The more fatigued your muscles are the higher the chance for serious injury. A single play in the outfield that causes Ohtani to put 110% into a throw can do quite a bit of damage if his arm and body are already overly fatigued. Clearly a simple concept that I have to believe a professional coaching/training staff understands.
Long story short, TLDR... I love couch coaching like a lot of other baseball fans and card enthusiasts, but we don’t have all of the info nor are we talking to the players. We don’t REALLY know until they tell us or something happens. [emoji16]
I hope he’s fine and is able to continue playing at this pace for the rest of the year. Watching him play is the most fun I’ve had watching baseball in a long time.
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1) Darvish tweeted that he experienced something like this many times for several years after his TJ surgery.
2) Also, Ohtani responded to the question below in his postgame interview:
Q: トミー・ジョン手術後から、こういう体の重さ、直球がいかないなどを感じる日があったか。
(Since TJ surgery, were there days when you felt your body was sluggish, or your fastball was not there?)
Ohtani:「そうですね。それは一進一退というか、段階を追って80マイルから90マイルに上がる時もそうですし、90マイルから95マイルに上がる時もそうです。強く投げる強度がもちろん高くなれば、張りが出てきたりとか。そういうところだと思うので。去年も試合にそんなに投げているわけではないですし、これからそういう張りがもちろんでてくることもあると思うので、そういう時に臨機応変に対応できたらなと思います」
(Yes. It's something like one step forward, one step back; like going up a flight of stairs, whether it's going from 80mph to 90mph, or from 90mph to 95mph.
The stronger I try to throw, there are times when it tenses up, so this is what I think is happening. I haven't thrown a lot in games last year as well, so I think this (tension) will happen again for sure, so I am just hoping to be able to adjust accordingly.)
**I translated 張り（はり、hari）to "tension", but if okumeister or someone else knows a better word, please share with us, thank you.**
