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Originally Posted by Dizz86
-how can be topps now CL (wonder kid) /178 considered as 'lesser league', when it is 'Champions league set'. (stop being retarded)
-some people act like (first pack pulled cards are the ones..). I don't see this logic in any of Pele's, Cruyff's, Figo, Beckham's,... true rookies.
-Sapphire is not a rookie. Understandable, that Topps wnat it to be rookie season card, and also PSA wants that, so people would send it to them and they can earn money. Many cards are mislabeled, and even there was some critical mass at the begining, those cards are now not being so popular, as more and more people learns the truth. (Messi Traditions, Beckham Raven,...
Not many knows, that Champions league will change its format in 2023.
THere will be 8 teams groups it will mean not 6 games in group stage, but 14. (CL games also on weekends). Playoff will be the same as now. This simply gives Haland another 8 CL matches each year to improve his scoring record. At least 4 of those added 8 games will be against weaker teams.
At the end of his career he will surpass Messi and Ronaldo in CL goals scored.
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My point was that Dortmund is a more recognizable team in a more recognizable league compared FC Salzburg, and that matters a lot to some collectors in terms of value. That seems like a fairly obvious statement to me, but feel free to disagree.
That's a good point about the CL format affecting stats/values over time. I haven't thought much about that, but it would really benefit a guy like Haaland, who would seemingly make it there every year and also NOT have exposure to Euro and World Cup in the same way as some other players of similar talent.
I think part of what makes soccer in general and Haaland in particular so interesting from a hobby perspective is this varied landscape. There are so many leagues and teams, and therefore so many card lines, which makes it hard to compare to the NBA, NHL, NFL, etc. So people can collect what they like, place their bets, etc. This thread alone has been really illuminating for me.