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wilsonsingles 09-09-2024 12:35 PM

Is it time for Justin Verlander to retire?
 
Is it time for Justin Verlander to retire?

brutal last 6 starts..

JRX 09-09-2024 01:04 PM

Not until he's done collecting money from the Mets.

JustinVerlander07 09-09-2024 01:09 PM

Extremely biased, but....

He's a year removed from 160 innings of a 3.2 ERA, and pre-injury this season in 50 innings had an ERA in the mid 3's. I'd venture he's not entire healthy and came back too soon.

Hoping he finishes his career where he belongs still, with the Tigers.

discostu 09-09-2024 01:38 PM

[QUOTE=JRX;19614586]Not until he's done collecting money from the Mets.[/QUOTE]

That's done by the end of the month, as there's zero chance he pitches 140 innings this season.

If Verlander wants to lock in that $35 million guarantee for next year, he'll need to average 22 IP over each of his next 3 starts.

The only pitchers to average 22 IP over three straight starts are Sidd Finch, Kim Jong Un and Vladimir Putin.

Scottish Punk 09-09-2024 01:40 PM

I love JV. But I think both Scherzer and JV are just hanging on and really aren't providing much value on the field anymore. I don't expect them to get any heavy innings or stay healthy an entire year. Neither are signed after this year I don't think. Neither have anything more to prove for their careers.

ThoseBackPages 09-09-2024 01:42 PM

should you stop doing what you love?

duwal 09-09-2024 02:24 PM

nope, just having a stretch of struggle this summer, maybe mechanics need to be tweaked. Don't forget April and May in 8 starts he was 3-2 with an ERA around 3 and WHIP of 1.1

dfenno 09-09-2024 02:37 PM

[QUOTE=Scottish Punk;19614631]I love JV. But I think both Scherzer and JV are just hanging on and really aren't providing much value on the field anymore. I don't expect them to get any heavy innings or stay healthy an entire year. Neither are signed after this year I don't think. Neither have anything more to prove for their careers.[/QUOTE]

I personally think Scherzer has plenty more to offer. He may not pitch lots of innings ever again, but I believe he still has the ability to get dialed in and be one of the very best for stretches of time.

mattglet 09-09-2024 02:39 PM

[QUOTE=JustinVerlander07;19614594]Extremely biased, but....

He's a year removed from 160 innings of a 3.2 ERA, and pre-injury this season in 50 innings had an ERA in the mid 3's. I'd venture he's not entire healthy and came back too soon.

Hoping he finishes his career where he belongs still, with the Tigers.[/QUOTE]

This.

jwilson6204 09-09-2024 04:22 PM

[QUOTE=discostu;19614628]That's done by the end of the month, as there's zero chance he pitches 140 innings this season.

If Verlander wants to lock in that $35 million guarantee for next year, he'll need to average 22 IP over each of his next 3 starts.

[B]The only pitchers to average 22 IP over three straight starts are Sidd Finch, Kim Jong Un and Vladimir Putin[/B].[/QUOTE]

haha!!

rms13 09-09-2024 05:02 PM

He just needs to go to Germany in the off season and get his blood spun or something. If he can hang till he's 44-45 like Clemens and Ryan then he could be the last 300 game winner in history.

Skipscards 09-09-2024 06:14 PM

6 starts is nothing and his start against Boston was fine.

cgjackson222 09-09-2024 06:57 PM

[QUOTE=rms13;19614924]He just needs to go to Germany in the off season and get his blood spun or something. If he can hang till he's 44-45 like Clemens and Ryan then he could be the last 300 game winner in history.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, his motivation is the 300 win thing. Hard to see him getting there, but he has defied the odds in the past.

awz50 09-09-2024 07:18 PM

[QUOTE=Skipscards;19615037]6 starts is nothing and his start against Boston was fine.[/QUOTE]

It is Boston....

awz50 09-09-2024 07:20 PM

He is holding on for 300 wins potentially, and If this trend continues into next year he should just hang it up and not limp into it

JustinVerlander07 09-09-2024 07:34 PM

How many posting know more than just scouting the total ERA line this year? Honestly. He should retire for a couple bad starts?

Skipscards 09-09-2024 07:36 PM

[QUOTE=awz50;19615154]It is Boston....[/QUOTE]

True. But we’re talking about 6 games and really it’s 4 games since the 1st two games were before the injury. But really it’s the last 3 games since the 4th game was fine. I am sure he’s had just as bad three game stretches in his career.

awz50 09-09-2024 07:44 PM

[QUOTE=JustinVerlander07;19615185]How many posting know more than just scouting the total ERA line this year? Honestly. He should retire for a couple bad starts?[/QUOTE]

I would say If you are posting on here regularly, you should be looking a lot deeper than just ERA. I do think as I stated before he is holding on for 300, and If he reverses this trend of 6 games, and comes back injury-free next year he should keep going.

IF he continues to struggle into next year, then it might be time to look at hanging it up as he will be 42

jdandns 09-09-2024 08:31 PM

[QUOTE=discostu;19614628]That's done by the end of the month, as there's zero chance he pitches 140 innings this season.

If Verlander wants to lock in that $35 million guarantee for next year, he'll need to average 22 IP over each of his next 3 starts.

The only pitchers to average 22 IP over three straight starts are Sidd Finch, Kim Jong Un and Vladimir Putin.[/QUOTE]

Don't forget Kazuo "The Uzi" Uzuki.
He did it three different times!

Handsome Wes 09-09-2024 08:33 PM

[QUOTE=ThoseBackPages;19614635]should you stop doing what you love?[/QUOTE]

I would consider it if the alternative was going home to spend time with Kate Upton

cnewby 09-09-2024 08:59 PM

Absolutely time to quit. JV is a bum.

PuddleMonkey 09-09-2024 10:51 PM

He's got what, two World Series rings and two Cy Youngs with the Astros, right? I wouldn't mind seeing him get a third World Series and go into the HOF as a 'Stro just to make Tigers fans suffer.


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