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jplarson 06-06-2023 12:49 PM

Is Von Miller a HoFer?
 
As of the conclusion of the 2022 season, here is where he stands:

Awards - 3x All Pro 1st Team, 4x All Pro 2nd Team, 8x Pro Bowl, 2011 DRoY

Achievements - 2x Super Bowl winner, Super Bowl 50 MVP, HoF All-2010s Team

Numbers - leads all active players in sacks (123.5), ranks 19th all-time.

I think Miller has a strong chance to pick up 5-6 sacks this year to put him at 16th all-time in the sack department. If he plays another 3 years, should have a shot of reaching Michael Strahan at 6th all-time (141.5 sacks). If it's 2 more years then he's at around the Jared Allen level for 12th all-time (136 sacks) Twice Miller was the runner-up in DPOY. He ranked in the NFL Top 100 from 2012-2020, three times in the top 10 of that list and in 2017 #2.

I think he could retire tomorrow and make it in but adding some counting numbers couldn't hurt his efforts, especially if he's able to crack the top 10 all-time in sacks.

Edreedballhawk 06-06-2023 12:55 PM

I believe he is.

Grid 06-06-2023 12:58 PM

Yes he is. The All Decade team is pretty much your lock into the HOF. With the exception of fringe positions, such as special teams or full backs (they did away with FB now, lumping RBs into one).

Although it gets a bit iffy, now that they have done away with 1st and 2nd team AD.

Once Jimbo Covert got into the Hall, all 1st team (and most 2nd team) members were enshrined from the All 80s. Butler getting in, means all 1st team for the 90s are in (with about half of the 2nd teamers)

All 1st teamers from the 2000s are in, except for Brady who isn't eligible yet. And Freeney, who just became and was already a finalist last year.

Miller has the pedigree and accolades already. He doesn't need anything else.

kluke84 06-06-2023 02:03 PM

Not only is he a HOFer, he is a 1st ballot HOF.
8x PB
3x All Pro
2x SB winner.

Ericc5Bears 06-06-2023 02:44 PM

Absolutely, most likely gets in on the stats and PBs/APs alone, then you throw in 2 rings with a SB MVP as a defensive player and he becomes a surefire lock.

mike1498 06-06-2023 03:10 PM

Is this really a question?

Braswell10 06-06-2023 03:21 PM

Easily.

asujbl 06-06-2023 04:16 PM

OP is bored today

Archangel1775 06-06-2023 04:16 PM

Jeez, what's your standard of success?

Boo 06-06-2023 04:16 PM

[QUOTE=asujbl;18891829]OP is bored today[/QUOTE]

Drinking again

tjforce 06-06-2023 04:43 PM

Better question is: how many defensive front-7 players currently in the NFL rank higher than him (career wise).

-Aaron Donald

JJ Watt is retired, and maybe TJ Watt gets there.

Anyone else?

jplarson 06-06-2023 04:45 PM

[QUOTE=Boo;18891832]Drinking again[/QUOTE]

How can I be doing something again if I never stopped in the first place?

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jplarson 06-06-2023 04:47 PM

[QUOTE=Archangel1775;18891830]Jeez, what's your standard of success?[/QUOTE]

Lower than at least 3 other people!

mike1498 06-06-2023 04:48 PM

[QUOTE=tjforce;18891873]Better question is: how many defensive front-7 players currently in the NFL rank higher than him (career wise).

-Aaron Donald

JJ Watt is retired, and maybe TJ Watt gets there.

Anyone else?[/QUOTE]

I would say chandler jones is the closest comparison at 112 sacks but came into the league a year later than von.

Calais Campbell isn't comparable to von but will break 100 sacks this upcoming season

[QUOTE=jplarson;18891882]Lower than at least 3 other people![/QUOTE]

One is a chiefs fan so it's really only two...

asujbl 06-06-2023 04:51 PM

[QUOTE=mike1498;18891885]I would say chandler jones is the closest comparison at 112 sacks but came into the league a year later than von.

Calais Campbell isn't comparable to von but will break 100 sacks this upcoming season



One is a chiefs fan so it's really only two...[/QUOTE]

Cameron Jordan has 115.5

He isn’t a HOF’er (or he should at least have the thread)

Context

Boo 06-06-2023 04:53 PM

[QUOTE=mike1498;18891885]I would say chandler jones is the closest comparison at 112 sacks but came into the league a year later than von.

Calais Campbell isn't comparable to von but will break 100 sacks this upcoming season



One is a chiefs fan so it's really only two...[/QUOTE]

Chandler Jones couldn’t carry Von’s jock

Baraka 06-06-2023 04:57 PM

HOF yes

TheFrenzy 06-06-2023 05:01 PM

The real question is where will they get the hair for his cards?

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mike1498 06-06-2023 05:02 PM

[QUOTE=Boo;18891894]Chandler Jones couldn’t carry Von’s jock[/QUOTE]

What am I missing?

I said [I]closest[/I] comparable...

Chandler Jones l Von Miller
Sacks 112 l 123.5
PB 4 l 8
All Pros 2 l 3
SBs 1 l 2

Both 2010 All Decade Team

I'll wait for a closer current comparable

asujbl 06-06-2023 05:04 PM

[QUOTE=mike1498;18891907]What am I missing?

I said [I]closest[/I] comparable...

Chandler Jones Von Miller
Sacks 112 123.5
PB 4 8
All Pros 2 3
SBs 1 2

Both 2010 All Decade Team

I'll wait for a closer current comparable[/QUOTE]

I already gave you one

oplum29 06-06-2023 05:07 PM

yes he is.

it's a shame though, because i think Aldon Smith was better than Von, and yet he can't get his life straight.

mike1498 06-06-2023 05:09 PM

[QUOTE=asujbl;18891910]I already gave you one[/QUOTE]

He has three more sacks than Chandler with one more season under his belt. Really the only difference is PB's between both. I'd say they are equivalent if anything

TheFrenzy 06-06-2023 05:13 PM

[QUOTE=oplum29;18891911]yes he is.

it's a shame though, because i think Aldon Smith was better than Von, and yet he can't get his life straight.[/QUOTE]

Cowboys legend.

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asujbl 06-06-2023 05:17 PM

[QUOTE=mike1498;18891918]He has three more sacks than Chandler with one more season under his belt. Really the only difference is PB's between both. I'd say they are equivalent if anything[/QUOTE]

He was the same draft as Miller

Why not use him? Since you love the word comparable

FBallHobbies 06-06-2023 05:34 PM

I want to hear the reasons for the people that voted no


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