Question Regarding 1952 Mickey Mantle #311
 

Hello All:

I'm in the market for a Mickey Mantle #311. My friend came across this one and I'm curious what you guys think. Is it a fake, reprint, etc? If so how can you tell?

Thanks for your help!

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It's junk

PSA 3's go for what, $75K so if that's real it's probably $250,000....
But it's more than likely not.

[QUOTE=coltsnsox07;18885900]PSA 3's go for what, $75K so if that's real it's probably $250,000....
But it's more than likely not.[/QUOTE]

You’re absolutely right. Anything you spot on it as an example that I should see from the pictures? I’ve watched some videos and read about what to look for, but it’s still hard.

The person asking is asking for a large sum of money.

[QUOTE=sportscardhauls;18885903]Anything you spot on it as an example that I should see from the pictures?[/QUOTE]

You don't need eyes. You don't need to see anything. Someone has a 52 Mantle in respectable condition that is not in a PSA holder, it's fake. That's it.

If it makes any difference the seller is an old lady…

[QUOTE=sportscardhauls;18885906]If it makes any difference the seller is an old lady…[/QUOTE]

They always are.

I don't understand people contemplating just purchasing cards like this. For the amount of money we are talking here, if you aren't including in the negotiation that the card get graded as a condition of the sale, you are crazy. It doesn't matter what any of us tell you, the correct advice is get it graded first.

If it were real it would be one of the finest in existence, so no

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[QUOTE=hxcmilkshake;18885998]If it were real it would be one of the finest in existence, so no

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Not after being squished in that screwdown that is recessed for the wrong sized card it wouldn't be.

[QUOTE=OhioLawyerF5;18886001]Not after being squished in that screwdown that is recessed for the wrong sized card it wouldn't be.[/QUOTE]

That's the jumbo version box topper, super rare

[QUOTE=sportscardhauls;18885906]If it makes any difference the seller is an old lady…[/QUOTE]

Sure she is. I’m sure it was also found in a wall and she was in the military and says god bless lots.

6k eBay feedback selling cards some graded and asking this?

Yeah hi red flag .

No offense, but this post is just telling me that you’re not ready to be in the market for a 52 mantle


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[QUOTE=BBases31;18885904]You don't need eyes. You don't need to see anything. Someone has a 52 Mantle in respectable condition that is not in a PSA holder, it's fake. That's it.[/QUOTE]

This one is fake?

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[QUOTE=tonedef2oo8;18886011]6k eBay feedback selling cards some graded and asking this?

Yeah hi red flag .[/QUOTE]

I see he's a 'PSA 10?' guy on his raw cards. I hope he does buy this Mantle now.

I say go for it

Guys. Obviously I'm asking because I do not have experience with vintage baseball. Yes I have been buying and selling for awhile, but mostly modern cards.

You guys make a great point about having the card graded before purchasing, which I will probably do. The reason I was asking in the first place was that I would prefer not to even waste any time (and money) if the card had tell tale signs of being a fake.

On a different note, the seller is a old lady who knows nothing about baseball. It was her husband's collection. He also had a few other cards that were of the same era as well, which is why I even considered it.

I completely understand where you guys are coming from. I'm not being bitter, just not experienced when it comes to vintage. Really hoping for some guidance, that is all.

1) The centering is too good. The SGC card you showed was from an unopened find by Mr. Mint, not a card that was theoretically kept flawless for 40 years before being put in the wrong sized screwdown holder.

That's really all you need to know. The back looks "off" but that could be due to the lighting, or the fact that it's in a screwdown holder, etc. Ask the seller to remove it from the screwdown. See whether the card has the same pulp type of the other 1952s they might have.

If you decide to have it graded, you'll need to request that PSA grade it AUTHENTIC ALTERED if it does not earn a number grade, because cards pressed in screwdown holders rarely get number grades from PSA.

Watch this episode of Chasing Cardboard. they have some good pointers you may be able to use.

[url]https://youtu.be/XUP-sdCyYHo[/url]

[QUOTE=sportscardhauls;18885906]If it makes any difference the seller is an old lady…[/QUOTE]

It's always hilarious when these stories are accompanied by the person selling it is old as if that's means it's less likely to be fake. The gullibility of people is incredible, especially here for a guy who says he has alot of experience in cards

[QUOTE=no10pin;18886182]I see he's a 'PSA 10?' guy on his raw cards. I hope he does buy this Mantle now.[/QUOTE]

LOL... a little harsh on the punishment there, but yes, putting that crap in item titles is a sin for sure.

If you have to ask a question in the title of your listing, the answer is "no and you shouldn't be putting that crap in the title" - ALWAYS.