***The Official "This Card is OVER GRADED" Thread***
 

I always come across things on eBay that I feel like I'd like to catalog and look at/share w/ folks. Whether it be stupid eBay listings, or cards that I feel are inaccurately graded. Hoping others also will like this.

(Apologies in advance for hating on the card if it's yours. Happens to us all)

This card I came across today and it really made me do a double take. If you have any examples of cards that you feel are over graded, please share!

[url]https://www.ebay.com/itm/143950118715?hash=item2184187f3b:g:cjwAAOSwuQpgKzZK[/url]

[IMG]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/cjwAAOSwuQpgKzZK/s-l1600.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/JooAAOSwAQJgKzZX/s-l1600.jpg[/IMG]

Front looks like a 10. Back looks like an 8.

PSA doesn’t care as much about back corners but I don’t really have a problem with that card being a 10 (from what I can see) - it would likely cross to be a BGS 9.5 with them giving the corners a 9.0.

[QUOTE=ChaseUA;17580686]Front looks like a 10. Back looks like an 8.

PSA doesn’t care as much about back corners but I don’t really have a problem with that card being a 10 (from what I can see) - it would likely cross to be a BGS 9.5 with them giving the corners a 9.0.[/QUOTE]

I've got some Mahomes parallel 2020 Prizms that just came back, 1 9 and 1 10. The 9 front is perfect and the back corners are much better than this one.

From new serial numbers, it's rare to see corners as beat up and still 10 from what I'm seeing.

This was mine but I sold it because I could only see the centering. Still an awesome card though.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/UXLmiOgl.jpg[/img]

Not mine. Was sold a while back in a Probstein auction on ebay.

[IMG]https://pbase.com/towerymt/image/171350235.jpg[/IMG]

I've always wondered if when cards get mis-labeled by being slabbed in the wrong order, could something like this get into a 10 holder when the next slab was an 8 or a 9 of another base prizm Morant, but had the actual PSA-10 quality card in it. The centering is so bad, and so easy to notice, that I find it hard to believe this was actually graded a 10.

[IMG][img]https://i.imgur.com/9OR5JqU.jpg[/img][/IMG]

Just sold through Goldin Auctions on 8/11 for $44,280. Great example of "buy the card not the grade;" it's the lowest sale of a 10 since 11/9/20 (and it's not hard to understand why). Even per PSA's older & more lenient grading standards this should never have graded a 10.

This thread is ck's dream. Lol

[img]https://i.imgur.com/0sVeCRQ.jpg[/img]

Always a favorite.

[QUOTE=PepperDean;17581336][img]https://i.imgur.com/0sVeCRQ.jpg[/img]

Always a favorite.[/QUOTE]

Imagine submitting that card hoping they give you 9 centering instead of 8.5 so you can at least snag a min gem, then the grades pop and you see that...

This thread already exists

[url]https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1399531[/url]

[QUOTE=majestik101;17581593]This thread already exists

[url]https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1399531[/url][/QUOTE]

Not technically. That thread is only for centering. This one could be for any reason.

Not sure why we need a show off thread here on blowout when there is already an entire website dedicated to this topic...

Been awhile since I last checked it out, but I'm sure it's still out there on the internet...

I believe it is called 4sharp something or other...

[QUOTE=Onepocketj;17581154]This thread is ck's dream. Lol[/QUOTE]

I'm sure it's right up his alley lol!

[QUOTE=epatmythes;17581969]Not sure why we need a show off thread here on blowout when there is already an entire website dedicated to this topic...

Been awhile since I last checked it out, but I'm sure it's still out there on the internet...

I believe it is called 4sharp something or other...[/QUOTE]

I'll have to check that out! It's shocking how many cards are over graded.

Auto grades on Ohtanis are laughably bad.

[url]https://www.ebay.com/itm/265224898533?hash=item3dc0a2c7e5%3Ag%3AbpUAAOSwC8Ng6Jp7&nma=true&si=OVPWsQXnYjndN4X5H1fe%252FphK%252BB4%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/url]

[IMG]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/bpUAAOSwC8Ng6Jp7/s-l500.jpg[/IMG]

This thread will quickly show new folks that Gem Mint is not pristine - and even pristine is not pristine. Don't waste money on a PSA 10, BGS 9.5/10 case if the card doesn't match. We all have seen cards cross from one service to another, which shows that grading has some subjectivity and has not reached acceptable standards.

The price craze for a PSA 10 and BGS 10 baffles my mind. Imagine if somebody perfects AI to the point that renders grades prior to AI obsolete... Wasted money.

[QUOTE=Jagsfansunshine;17597360]This thread will quickly show new folks that Gem Mint is not pristine - and even pristine is not pristine. Don't waste money on a PSA 10, BGS 9.5/10 case if the card doesn't match. We all have seen cards cross from one service to another, which shows that grading has some subjectivity and has not reached acceptable standards.

The price craze for a PSA 10 and BGS 10 baffles my mind. Imagine if somebody perfects AI to the point that renders grades prior to AI obsolete... Wasted money.[/QUOTE]

Here’s the thing - AI is only as effective as the people that program it. Combined with the amount of different card designs, layouts, etc. It’ll NEVER be perfected. Those looking forward to the day that PSA or BGS become “obsolete” are going to be sorely disappointed.

I do think the market is primed for another (or multiple) company to make a step forward and become a more relevant third party. SCG and CSG seemed to me to be the safest bets to do so, but both have had some questionable QA recently and aren’t nearly to the scale of PSA so their long term viability is questionable. I do feel CSG is most likely to be the next big time player but really think their initial focus should have been on TCG’s since they have a background in comics etc.

[QUOTE=ChaseUA;17597424]Here’s the thing - AI is only as effective as the people that program it. Combined with the amount of different card designs, layouts, etc. It’ll NEVER be perfected. Those looking forward to the day that PSA or BGS become “obsolete” are going to be sorely disappointed.

I do think the market is primed for another (or multiple) company to make a step forward and become a more relevant third party. SCG and CSG seemed to me to be the safest bets to do so, but both have had some questionable QA recently and aren’t nearly to the scale of PSA so their long term viability is questionable. I do feel CSG is most likely to be the next big time player but really think their initial focus should have been on TCG’s since they have a background in comics etc.[/QUOTE]

Their initial focus was on TCGs. They started CGC grading around 6 months before opening up CSG for sports cards.

[QUOTE=PepperDean;17597493]Their initial focus was on TCGs. They started CGC grading around 6 months before opening up CSG for sports cards.[/QUOTE]

That makes sense, I guess that goes to show the marketing team missed a chance to have both TCG’s and Sports cards under the same umbrella. The credibility of one being successful would have more easily transferred legitimacy over to the other of they had been under the same name - a la PSA and BGS grading both under the same banner.

[B][/B][QUOTE=ChaseUA;17597511]That makes sense, I guess that goes to show the marketing team missed a chance to have both TCG’s and Sports cards under the same umbrella. The credibility of one being successful would have more easily transferred legitimacy over to the other of they had been under the same name - a la PSA and BGS grading both under the same banner.[/QUOTE]

It is better that CSG and CGC is separate. CGC is not as consistent and went downhill fast since last year.

[B]Check out the centering grades on most of these CGC slabs on COMC. [/B]
[URL="https://www.comc.com/Cards/Pokemon/1998,sh,vDetails,=pokemon+cgc,+vending,i100"]https://www.comc.com/Cards/Pokemon/1998,sh,vDetails,=pokemon+cgc,+vending,i100[/URL]

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/BVCmqeg.jpg?1[/IMG]

[url]https://www.ebay.com/itm/384320843887?hash=item597b4eb06f%3Ag%3AOK0AAOSwiP1hEYIQ&nma=true&si=317J0Cs2zN4ViNp1lKPvE6FDGes%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/url]

:(

This one actually might not be that bad, but could just be the angle. Just looks OC T/B

[IMG]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OK0AAOSwiP1hEYIQ/s-l1600.jpg[/IMG]

Here is the worst overgraded card I've ever seen. The moment I saw this I said I would never grade with PSA ever again.

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/G37h5XGW/Gretzkf.jpg[/IMG]

The closeups are even worse, look at the back.

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/wTgcwT5f/Gretzk.jpg[/IMG]

[URL="https://goldinauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=103091"]https://goldinauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=103091[/URL]

This is a joke... the grading not the card. Look at those corners, the card is like a 4.

It's a real card that sold like last month or 2 months ago at Goldin Auction for over $110,000.

[QUOTE=Cardboardalstar;17599278]Here is the worst overgraded card I've ever seen. The moment I saw this I said I would never grade with PSA ever again.

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/G37h5XGW/Gretzkf.jpg[/IMG]

The closeups are even worse, look at the back.

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/wTgcwT5f/Gretzk.jpg[/IMG]

[URL="https://goldinauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=103091"]https://goldinauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=103091[/URL]

This is a joke... the grading not the card. Look at those corners, the card is like a 4.

It's a real card that sold like last month or 2 months ago at Goldin Auction for over $110,000.[/QUOTE]

You do realize that no deduction is given to O-Pee-Chee cards because of the rough cut right?

If you think that card should be a 4 it's probably a good thing you stopped grading.

Looks like typical 'OPC rough cut' to me.