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Nostalgia 10-02-2020 07:45 AM

Clayton Kershaw - Will a dominant postseason do much to his hobby value?
 
He's arguably the best pitcher since 2000, and may go down as a top 5 pitcher ever. His regular season stats definitely support it. The only blemish on his resume is his postseason failures.

You can get Kershaw cards relatively cheap, but pitcher card hobby value is never that high.

I think his 2008 Topps UH is a very nice card.

tonedef2oo8 10-02-2020 07:53 AM

No it will not .

actionbryan 10-02-2020 07:54 AM

It’ll certainly help. Sort of analogous to Drew Brees , great career and at least one championship is icing on the cake. Maybe not a perfect example though because of Brees passing records

I own nothing of him but if he pulls a 2014 Madbum , I’ll probably pay the hyped pricing for his Rc

unclemonkey 10-02-2020 08:05 AM

I don't see it.

He seems fairly valued ATM.

2010GBPackers 10-02-2020 08:10 AM

He's a long-term bet. HOFers in the twighlight of their career don't fare well in our current hobby market. But with a strong postseason, (and he had a great start to that last night) I can see people's eyes being opened and noticing how undervalued his cards are for being an all-time Top 10 pitcher (at least).

Thor34 10-02-2020 08:24 AM

Yes..

coachnip13 10-02-2020 08:32 AM

[QUOTE=2010GBPackers;16500218]He's a long-term bet. HOFers [B]in the twighlight of their career[/B] don't fare well in our current hobby market. But with a strong postseason, (and he had a great start to that last night) I can see people's eyes being opened and noticing how undervalued his cards are for being an all-time Top 10 pitcher (at least).[/QUOTE]

He's 32.

speedyjg13 10-02-2020 08:39 AM

I don't think so

Nostalgia 10-02-2020 08:43 AM

[QUOTE=coachnip13;16500273]He's 32.[/QUOTE]

Looking at his regular season stats......there is definitely an argument to be made that he is a top 5 (and maybe the best) regular season pitcher all-time.

He can have a few more great years...but he can also start to regress quickly. Last season he had his first 3.00 era season since his ROOKIE season!...regression maybe? Many thought so. Then he was dominant again this season. His career stats are mindblowing.

I get why Randy Johnson and Greg Maddux PSA 10 rookies don't hold too much value. But, Pedro Martinez Bowman PSA 10 rookies go for what? $150-200? Was 1992 still considered the junk era? (Pedro's 1991 UP PSA 10 is at $50.)

employee8 10-02-2020 08:46 AM

He did enough last night for my raw update to sell online

Nostalgia 10-02-2020 08:47 AM

[QUOTE=employee8;16500313]He did enough last night for my raw update to sell online[/QUOTE]

HAHA. What were you asking for? Was it on the market for a while? Or did you put it up after the game?

ewokpelts 10-02-2020 09:07 AM

He would have had a ring in 2017 and 2018, BBBBBBBUUUUUUUUTTTTT............

coachnip13 10-02-2020 09:09 AM

[QUOTE=ewokpelts;16500384]He would have had a ring in 2017 and 2018, BBBBBBBUUUUUUUUTTTTT............[/QUOTE]

........but they didn't win four games in the World Series? Seems pretty obvious.

BBases31 10-02-2020 09:11 AM

I've been saying for a while he's one of the most underrated in the hobby. The unquestioned best pitcher of his generation and best pitcher in the last 50 years, who's only 32, and on the best team in the baseball. He's already pretty expensive but he could easily retire as one of the 3 best pitchers of all time at this pace. His rookies and BC Autos are rare compared to modern day stuff so I think his stuff has higher potential to go up than people think. His 2008 Update rookie only has 2k total graded with 850 PSA 10. His Update Chrome Rookie only has 48 graded with 22 10s

Triple B 10-02-2020 09:14 AM

You know it’s 2020 when Kershaw is bringing the noise in the playoffs...

MJRaider 10-02-2020 09:18 AM

[QUOTE=Triple B;16500408]You know it’s 2020 when Kershaw is bringing the noise in the playoffs...[/QUOTE]

True. :(

Nostalgia 10-02-2020 09:32 AM

[QUOTE=BBases31;16500395]I've been saying for a while he's one of the most underrated in the hobby. The unquestioned best pitcher of his generation and best pitcher in the last 50 years, who's only 32, and on the best team in the baseball. He's already pretty expensive but he could easily retire as one of the 3 best pitchers of all time at this pace. His rookies and BC Autos are rare compared to modern day stuff so I think his stuff has higher potential to go up than people think. His 2008 Update rookie only has 2k total graded with 850 PSA 10. His Update Chrome Rookie only has 48 graded with 22 10s[/QUOTE]

The chrome UH is a beautiful card. Out of my price range now :(

I'm going to compare the pop report of Kershaw Topps UH rookie to some other generational pitchers.

Randy Johnson Upper Deck: 28132 graded; 4367 PSA 10
Randy Johnson Topps Traded: 12397 graded; 3101 PSA 10
Randy Johnson 1989 Donruss: 7589 graded; 1183 PSA 10

Greg Maddux 1987 Donruss: 28961 graded; 2457 PSA 10
Greg Maddux 1987 Topps Traded: 13127 graded; 3789 PSA 10
Greg Maddux Topps Traded Tiffany 3097 graded; 584 PSA 10
Greg Maddux 1987 Fleer Glossy: 6809 graded; 892 PSA 10

Pedro Martinez 1991 UD Final Edition: 22778 graded; 3759 PSA 10
Pedro Martinez 1992 Bowman: 9917 graded; 1551 PSA 10

Clayton Kershaw Topps UH: 2010 graded; 879 PSA 10
Clayton Kershaw Topps UH GOLD: 60 graded; 20 PSA 10
Clayton Kershaw Topps UH GOLD FOIL: 103 graded; 41 PSA 10
Clayton Kershaw Topps UH BLACK: 4 graded; 1 PSA 10
Clayton Kershaw Topps Chrome UH: 48 graded; 22 PSA 10

Danderlion 10-02-2020 09:32 AM

If he stays dominant through the entire postseason and the dodgers win, should see some nice upward movement in his hobby value.

Last night was a great game, but he will need several more of these to move the needle I think.

unclemonkey 10-02-2020 09:36 AM

To many missed opportunities at immortality.

Great HOF worthy pitcher.

Feels kinda like Manning getting that second ring on the backs of others. Just meh...

NeedChapmans 10-02-2020 09:38 AM

[QUOTE=unclemonkey;16500496]To many missed opportunities at immortality.

Great HOF worthy pitcher.

Feels kinda like Manning getting that second ring on the backs of others.[/QUOTE]

Manning was dragged through that season and the post-season. Kershaw has been reborn it seems; his velocity is up and he's dominating again. I don't the two are quite comparable IMHO.

That said, it's Kershaw. We go through this every / single / year. Give him time.

2infinitybeyond 10-02-2020 09:54 AM

I love Kershaw. That being said, I don't know if he was dominant last night or if the Brewers are just that bad. There were a few hangers in there that the Brewers just missed.

Regardless, Kershaw is a legend to me and I don't believe all this "can't pitch in postseason" BS. He was truly dominant in Game 1 of the 2017 WS and that Game 5 "collapse" was the Astros cheating their way to a ring.

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MoreToppsPlease 10-02-2020 10:20 AM

Yes - a resurgent veteran HOF-caliber player always adds to his mystique and interest...especially with pitchers!

Reminds me of Verlander and even Ryan.

signal_fifty 10-02-2020 10:24 AM

[QUOTE=BBases31;16500395]I've been saying for a while he's one of the most underrated in the hobby. The unquestioned best pitcher of his generation and best pitcher in the last 50 years, who's only 32, and on the best team in the baseball. He's already pretty expensive but he could easily retire as one of the 3 best pitchers of all time at this pace. His rookies and BC Autos are rare compared to modern day stuff so I think his stuff has higher potential to go up than people think. His 2008 Update rookie only has 2k total graded with 850 PSA 10. His Update Chrome Rookie only has 48 graded with 22 10s[/QUOTE]

Best pitcher in the last 50 years?!? You are out of your mind.

oddstuff 10-02-2020 10:26 AM

Last night is a start...to really get the fire going, to add more fuel to the spark, he would need to throw a couple of no run games and cap it off with pitching the clincher to win the World Series with double digit Ks. He's HOF but to ignite his hobby value, that's what is needed...otherwise there will be slow incremental growth as he piles on the numbers before retirement.

At age 32, Kershaw should get to 3000 Ks barring major injuries, 250 wins if he stays with a winning team (contract with the Dodgers is up after the 2021 season). 1 MVP, 3 Cy Youngs/2 runner ups. In this era of 6 inning pitchers, he, Verlander, Scherzer and Greinke may be the last ones to get to 3000 Ks for a while.


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