Rowdy Tellez and Lourdes Gurriel Jr.
 

With Bichette and Guerrero Jr. getting most of the hobby love the Jays other two “young” guys are quietly outperforming both. Anybody else think either one of these guys have potential?

It's called a hot streak in a band box park at Sahlen Field. Tellez doesn't consistently hit lefties enough and Gurriel Jr. has a history of being injury prone.

Tellez is turning into a fine hitter, but he is likely always going to be dismissed in the hobby because of the chonky boi image unless he REALLY mashes. Unfortunately, he might need 50 homers to really grab attention.

Gurriel, too, is becoming a good hitter, but he's not really doing the things you need to do to become a superstar at 26. Not that that's bad, but the hobby loves minor league dudes with potential to be become major leaguers a lot more than major leaguers playing at a major league level.

Gurriel and Bo are the two best players on that team, get Gurriel now while he's cheap.

Lourdes is a great ball player. He will continue to produce, but I don't see him getting much love in the hobby (now or future).

I have faith in him as a player so I've picked up some decent RCs and 1st chromes, but I do not expect any large increases in his prices although I wouldn't mind it :D

Answer: 2 players who I continually receive in packs of Topps baseball cards in mass quantities

Teoscar has outperformed all of them this year. And I don’t think I’ve even seen him mentioned on these boards. Too bad he got injured. Had a legit shot at The HR title. But he’s been team MVP up until this point. Not sure what the hobbyist think but his swing is pretty damn slick. As long as he has a good approach he will hit.

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[QUOTE=base set;16411032]Answer: 2 players who I continually receive in packs of Topps baseball cards in mass quantities[/QUOTE]

These two players are like the Jays, no one cares. In the next 2-3 years they will become household names along with the other Jays. This team is going to be really good and no one sees it except people that watch them consistently.

As a big Jays fan, they're both really good players but I don't see them ever being hobby relevant

There’s (unfortunately) a difference between hobby good and real world good

Gurriel was just named AL Player of the Week. He's good WHEN he can stay healthy. Regardless, I LOVE what Mark Shapiro has done with this team.

Gurriel is super streaky. I’d expect a lot of production from him in the coming days.
Don’t know much about Rowdy other than he looks like he’d thrash a beer league. So many live bats in that lineup. Clutch that Bichette is soon to return as Teoscar hits the DL.


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[QUOTE=LVDan;16412466]Gurriel is super streaky. I’d expect a lot of production from him in the coming days.
Don’t know much about Rowdy other than he looks like he’d thrash a beer league. So many live bats in that lineup. Clutch that Bichette is soon to return as Teoscar hits the DL.


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Does he lol:

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Granted not a huge sample size but he seems like a pretty decent fielding first baseman from the games I’ve seen.

At his best, Tellez will probably bat .270 and hit 32-34 HR. And maybe he reaches 250-300 HR for his career. But I don’t see superstar potential there. (Poor man’s Kyle Schwarber.)

Gurriel definitely has some significant potential, as we saw in his half-season of work last year. He’s gotten somewhat of a late start to his career, though I could see him having some all-star seasons.

But not only are these two overshadowed by Vlad and Bichette, but Teoscar has been their best player of late (at least pre-injury).

I’d say Tellez and Gurriel probably don’t have much hobby-wide appeal. But if you’re a Jays collector, then this is a great situation for you. Back when my Giants were winning titles, guys like Brandon Crawford, Brandon Belt and Matt Cain were collectable—in addition to Posey, Lincecum, and Bumgarner.


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Nobody mentions Biggio?

I think he's the best all around player on the team, we've yet to see enough of Bichette (He's good but he's yet to hit his first slump).

Biggio get's on base, steals bases, scores runs, has decent power and plays literally every position, and every day. He's on pace for around a 5 WAR through his first 162 games.

[QUOTE=KevinC;16412729]Nobody mentions Biggio?

I think he's the best all around player on the team, we've yet to see enough of Bichette (He's good but he's yet to hit his first slump).

Biggio get's on base, steals bases, scores runs, has decent power and plays literally every position, and every day. He's on pace for around a 5 WAR through his first 162 games.[/QUOTE]

Biggio is Toronto’s best kept secret. Dude is (to borrow a phrase from above) a poor man’s Bellinger. Groshans will be Kris Bryant lite and Austin Martin is Mookie Betts lite. The Jays have done an incredible job drafting and developing.

[QUOTE=KevinC;16412729]Nobody mentions Biggio?

I think he's the best all around player on the team, we've yet to see enough of Bichette (He's good but he's yet to hit his first slump).

Biggio get's on base, steals bases, scores runs, has decent power and plays literally every position, and every day. He's on pace for around a 5 WAR through his first 162 games.[/QUOTE]

Shhh, I've only picked up a Black, Gold and Father's Day for $100 in the past few weeks..:)!

[QUOTE=Noles939913;16410915] Anybody else think either one of these guys have potential?[/QUOTE]

Neither will be stars or hobby stars. Debuted too old, and the production for both is minimal through the late 20s. If by potential you mean ability to contribute to the Jays and even help them win a WS, then the potential is there. If you mean value potential in the hobby I don't see it.

I honestly wouldn't mind seeing increased interest in 'merely' good, solid players who are not absolute stars. The way the hobby is now, you never know. It could happen especially with numbered cards, parallels, etc. But I wouldn't buy either unless you like the players or are a Jays fan, etc.

If anyone is looking to move Gurriel cards, i am doing trying to get all of his rookie cards ( and nothing else) > here is what i need any help would be great.

Im in on Biggio as well ;)

Need List :
2018 Topps '83 Topps Silver Pack Chrome #138 Red/10
2018 Topps '83 Topps Silver Pack Chrome #138 Superfractor /1
2018 Topps '83 Topps Silver Pack Chrome Autographs #138 Orange /25
2018 Topps '83 Topps Silver Pack Chrome Autographs #138 Red /5
2018 Topps '83 Topps Silver Pack Chrome Autographs #138 Superfractor /1
2018 Topps Big League #370 Rainbow Foil /100
2018 Topps Big League #370 Red Foil /1
2018 Topps Chrome Update #HMT11 Red /25
2018 Topps Chrome Update #HMT11 Superfractor /1
2018 Topps Chrome Update Autograph Refractors #HMT11 Red /5
2018 Topps Chrome Update Autograph Refractors #HMT11 Superfractor /1
2018 Topps Gallery #26 Red /1
2018 Topps Gallery #26 Artist Originals /1
2018 Topps Gallery Autographs #26 Red /1
2018 Topps Update Salute #S27 Platinum /1
2018 Topps Salute Autographs #SALG Platinum /1
2018 Topps Triple Threads Rookie Autographs #RALG Sapphire /10
2018 Topps Triple Threads Rookie Autographs #RALG Ruby /1
2018 Topps Update Salute #S27 Platinum /1
2018 Topps Update '83 Topps #8317 Gold /50
2018 Topps Update '83 Topps #8317 Red /10
2018 Topps '83 Topps Autographs #83ALU Platinum /1
2018 Topps Update #US110 Platinum /1
2018 Topps Update Photo Variations #US110A In dugout, wearing headband Auto
2018 Topps Update Photo Variations #US110B Fielding, blue jersey Auto
2018 Topps Walmart Holiday Snowflake Metallic Gold #HMW187 #/1

Biggio is okay, but he’s not Toronto’s best player, nor is he a superstar on the horizon. He’s an un-juiced Steve Finley who plays some
second base.

That’s not a bad thing—an average hitter with 20-20 potential can be an asset to a competitive team. But he’s 25 and hasn’t really done anything spectacular yet.


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