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Sources: Pelicans offering their 2017 first-round pick, Buddy Hield and an additional first-round pick to the Kings for DeMarcus Cousins.

I didn't want to put trade but we can use this thread in case he does end up traded.

AD and Cousins together? Wow

No way, Kings already said they're not trading Cousins and Cousins himself has said he's going to resign with the Kings. Obviously you never know what'll happened but I would be shocked if the Kings accept.

[QUOTE=Yaga;11974636]AD and Cousins together? Wow[/QUOTE]

Yeah that would be insanity.

Not sure how much stock I put into this proposal, as he's still arguably the most talented center in the game.

He would look so much better in a Lakers uniform

I don't value Cousins nearly as high as the common fan and even I don't think that's enough. Though the Pels 2017 pick is really valuable. Lottery pick in a deep draft. If Hield was a little more promising, maybe.

If the Pelicans do this and lose Holiday, I would LOL

People are going to be surprised at the return for Boogie, its not gonna be a ton

[QUOTE=IamRalpho;11974730]If the Pelicans do this and lose Holiday, I would LOL

People are going to be surprised at the return for Boogie, its not gonna be a ton[/QUOTE]

I would much rather have Boogie's talents than that of Buddy or Holiday at this point in time. Frazier has proven to be a capable back up. The two towers would dominate the low post and stretch out defenses.

im not exactly sure how this would work for either team...

the Kings suck against defending guards period..and adding Buddy Hield wouldnt help that. And its not like hes been a scoring machine either..although i guess hed get more of a chance out from under AD and Jrue..

but then thatd leave them with a hole at C/PF...Koufos is decent and WCS CAN be good, but he still needs to develop..and neither of them are Boogie quality

also with Boogie/AD on same team...they might be hell defensively..but theyd eat into each others production on the offense side..hell AD already sees a decrease in shots now that Jrue is healthy and "trying" to score all the time

[QUOTE=Pat3ntP3nd1ng;11974824]I would much rather have Boogie's talents than that of Buddy or Holiday at this point in time. Frazier has proven to be a capable back up. The two towers would dominate the low post and stretch out defenses.[/QUOTE]

It would literally be Boogie, AD, and thats it. No picks, no shooters, nothing else.

[QUOTE=volblorx8634;11974646]No way, Kings already said they're not trading Cousins and Cousins himself has said he's going to resign with the Kings. Obviously you never know what'll happened but I would be shocked if the Kings accept.[/QUOTE]

LOL really? Have you paid attention to kings ownership and management. This is probably unlikely but anything is possible with them.

The Kings just need to move on from Cousins. It's an unhealthy situation for everyone involved and will remain as such until he is either traded or becomes a FA.

Let him become the problem of one of your opponents. I personally hope he finds a healthy landing spot, but the Pelicans arent one of them.

[QUOTE=ninjacookies;11974656]Yeah that would be insanity.

Not sure how much stock I put into this proposal, as he's still arguably the most talented center in the game.[/QUOTE]

Interesting trade though if the Kings wanted to move him. I like Hield and this draft should be good plus another 1st rounder. I mean don't get me wrong, the Kings would draft like 2 more Ben McLemores but interesting if they couldn't get like Boston 1st rounder type thing.

[QUOTE=IamRalpho;11974898]It would literally be Boogie, AD, and thats it. No picks, no shooters, nothing else.[/QUOTE]

And what may I ask do the have now that is so important on keeping intact?

The only player on that roster who they must keep is AD, everyone else is disposable, and if I can get Cousins for Buddy Hield and a 2017 first rounder, that quite frankly is a steal at this point in history. You would be getting a known entity for two 3-4year projects which may or may not pan out.

Just for arguments sake lets say Jrue Holiday doesn't resign and you have Boogie as an addition, their starting lineup would look like this.

PG- Tim Frazier
SG- Tyreke Evans
SF- Solomon Hill/Dante Cunningham
PF- Anthony Davis
C- Demarcus Cousins

VS

PG- Jrue Holiday
SG- Tyreke Evans/Hield
SF- Solomon Hill
PF- Anthony Davis
C- Dante Cunningham/A. Ajinca

[QUOTE=dasiegel;11974994]the Kings would draft like 2 more Ben McLemores [/QUOTE]

That's exactly the issue lol. I get people generally don't like Cousins because of his documented attitude issues, but he single-handedly has them in playoff contention from the center position. That's hard to do with that roster (Gay's been out).

You're not going to find a 28/11/5 guy anywhere else. His talent is undeniable, and I'm not sure if giving him up for a wildcard chucking sg and 2 unknowns is really the best they could do. If I'm kings management and really looking to move, I'm wanting to get a sure thing back. Give me a guy like Butler over draft picks any day of the week.

[QUOTE=Pat3ntP3nd1ng;11975001]And what may I ask do the have now that is so important on keeping intact?

The only player on that roster who they must keep is AD, everyone else is disposable, and if I can get Cousins for Buddy Hield and a 2017 first rounder, that quite frankly is a steal at this point in history. You would be getting a known entity for two 3-4year projects which may or may not pan out.

Just for arguments sake lets say Jrue Holiday doesn't resign and you have Boogie as an addition, their starting lineup would look like this.

PG- Tim Frazier
SG- Tyreke Evans
SF- Solomon Hill/Dante Cunningham
PF- Anthony Davis
C- Demarcus Cousins

VS

PG- Jrue Holiday
SG- Tyreke Evans/Hield
SF- Solomon Hill
PF- Anthony Davis
C- Dante Cunningham/A. Ajinca[/QUOTE]


Exactly, outside of AD, nobody on that roster is indespensable. Jrue shows flashes, but he hasn't exactly shown great growth offensively. Good distributor though.

If the Pelicans pull this off, I'd let Jrue walk. I think Frazier would be a decent enough distributor.

Has nothing to do with indispensable players but you need shooters and talent around them and you won't have it. Not like free agents are gonna take less to play there and with no picks they'll be in trouble.

Plus Boogie is a FA. He can just leave.

[QUOTE=cp3fan;11974916]LOL really? Have you paid attention to kings ownership and management. This is probably unlikely but anything is possible with them.[/QUOTE]

Haha true, the Kings are as dysfunctional as they come, but the one thing they have been pretty consistent on is not trading Cousins. And especially for such an unimpressive return? I could certainly be wrong, though.

[QUOTE=ninjacookies;11975016]That's exactly the issue lol. I get people generally don't like Cousins because of his documented attitude issues, but he single-handedly has them in playoff contention from the center position. That's hard to do with that roster (Gay's been out).

You're not going to find a 28/11/5 guy anywhere else. His talent is undeniable, and I'm not sure if giving him up for a wildcard chucking sg and 2 unknowns is really the best they could do. If I'm kings management and really looking to move, I'm wanting to get a sure thing back. Give me a guy like Butler over draft picks any day of the week.[/QUOTE]

As usual we are on the same page. It is a steal when you get these types of talents. I'm sure playing next to AD his attitude will miraculously get better if they are winning too. Cousins, Butlers etc don't grow on trees. Most 1st rounders don't turn into those guys.

[QUOTE=dasiegel;11975377]As usual we are on the same page. It is a steal when you get these types of talents. I'm sure playing next to AD his attitude will miraculously get better if they are winning too. Cousins, Butlers etc don't grow on trees. Most 1st rounders don't turn into those guys.[/QUOTE]

Yep. Talents like that don't come around often. And I'd MUCH rather have a center that has hot head issues (stemming from his actual passion for the game) over one that has a laundry list of injury concerns.

If the pels make this trade and cousins walks? Can you imagine how bare those cupboards would be in NO? AD and nobody, without the chance to even draft anyone for 2 of the next three years.

But I see the appeal. Having possibly the two best offensive big in the league on your team makes you pretty unique and difficult to stop.

Cousins is headed to NO according to Woj. Wow!

Sacramento has agreed to trade DeMarcus Cousins to the New Orleans Pelicans, league source tells @TheVertical.

Not quite sure how Davis/Cousins will mesh together (my guess is poorly), but that will definitely be interesting.