Official 2016 Big-10 Football Thread
 

2015 thread needs to die (take a hint playoff thread as well) so it's time to start a 2016 thread with signing day on February 3rd

Anyone want to post some thoughts before we talk about how insane the Ohio State recruiting class is?

Jim Harbaugh says hi from his latest sleepover.

[QUOTE=hairysasquatch;10392087]Jim Harbaugh says hi from his latest sleepover.[/QUOTE]

That stuff gets creepier by the day. Climbing a tree now?

He's one hell of a coach, and a great recruiter, but he is one crazy loon

Go Hawks! Should be another good year. Glad Desmond King is returning for his senior year. Beathard is back, as well as Josey Jewell and a lot of key players.

We lose: a couple OL, Jordan Canzeri, Tevaun Smith, Henry Kreiger-Coble, Marshall Koehn, Jordan Lomax - but return a lot of key players so we should be good!

Schedule: Add Michigan and @PSU and play NDSU instead of Indiana St in the Non-Conf. Home schedule is great: Iowa St, NDSU, Northwestern, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Miami OH

Ready for another great year! Go Hawks!

Michigan is about to sign the #1 overall recruit and have the #1 overall recruiting class.

So we can talk about that as well.

[QUOTE=groundsupport;10392111]Michigan is about to sign the #1 overall recruit and have the #1 overall recruiting class.

So we can talk about that as well.[/QUOTE]

Rashan Gary isn't going to jump you 5 spots - that's not how team rankings work.
[LIST][*]Rivals you're in 6th (Ohio State is 1)[*]Scouts you're in 6th (Ohio State is 1)[*]247 composite you're in 3rd (Ohio State is 1) but you are significantly behind in rating. Adding Gary would put you at a 272.69 rating, you can check the calculator, compared to Ohio State who is already at 281.86 and is about to add Bruce Judson back to the list[*]ESPN no one cares (Ohio State dropped a spot after adding three 4 star players on Monday. They are reliable)[/LIST]
We can argue all day. I'm glad you're back from suspension so we can do so. The simple fact is that Michigan had a kick ass recruiting year... but adding Rashan Gary won't be enough for you to catch Ohio State after Monday.

[QUOTE=asujbl;10392167]Rashan Gary isn't going to jump you 5 spots - that's not how team rankings work.
[LIST][*]Rivals you're in 6th (Ohio State is 1)[*]Scouts you're in 6th (Ohio State is 1)[*]247 you're in 3rd (Ohio State is 1) but you are significantly behind in rating. Adding Gary would put you at a 272.69 rating, you can check the calculator, compared to Ohio State who is already at 281.86 and is about to add Bruce Judson back to the list[*]ESPN no one cares (Ohio State dropped a spot after adding three 4 star players on Monday. They are reliable)[/LIST]
We can argue all day. I'm glad you're back from suspension so we can do so. The simple fact is that Michigan had a kick ass recruiting year... but adding Rashan Gary won't be enough for you to catch Ohio State after Monday.[/QUOTE]


I know. There are a couple other 4 stars he is working on as well.

He just stayed at one of their houses. I don't know how that isn't a violation, but if it's legit, then more power to him.

[QUOTE=asujbl;10392092]He's one hell of a coach, and a great recruiter, but he is one crazy loon[/QUOTE]

It's great that UM and tOSU have strong recruiting classes and we can look forward to some epic battles in the coming years - much better for both programs in the long haul. Crazy loon all day!

Go Blue! Can't wait for my season tickets to come in already. :)

[QUOTE=asujbl;10392167]Rashan Gary isn't going to jump you 5 spots - that's not how team rankings work.
[LIST][*]Rivals you're in 6th (Ohio State is 1)[*]Scouts you're in 6th (Ohio State is 1)[*]247 composite you're in 3rd (Ohio State is 1) but you are significantly behind in rating. Adding Gary would put you at a 272.69 rating, you can check the calculator, compared to Ohio State who is already at 281.86 and is about to add Bruce Judson back to the list[*]ESPN no one cares (Ohio State dropped a spot after adding three 4 star players on Monday. They are reliable)[/LIST]
We can argue all day. I'm glad you're back from suspension so we can do so. The simple fact is that Michigan had a kick ass recruiting year... but adding Rashan Gary won't be enough for you to catch Ohio State after Monday.[/QUOTE]

Bruce Judson is in the Class of 2017. That class for OSU is absolutely loaded: Myers, Wade, Williamson, Sibley and Clark, Cage, and a few others I can't think of off the top of my head

[QUOTE=IowaCubs1;10392101]Go Hawks! Should be another good year. Glad Desmond King is returning for his senior year. Beathard is back, as well as Josey Jewell and a lot of key players.

We lose: a couple OL, Jordan Canzeri, Tevaun Smith, Henry Kreiger-Coble, Marshall Koehn, Jordan Lomax - but return a lot of key players so we should be good!

Schedule: Add Michigan and @PSU and play NDSU instead of Indiana St in the Non-Conf. Home schedule is great: Iowa St, NDSU, Northwestern, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Miami OH

Ready for another great year! Go Hawks![/QUOTE]

Heck yeah!

Looking forward to next season and looking forward to Michigan's improvement. I enjoy Harbaugh's antics. And I also think they're very calculated. It's certainly working to appeal to recruits.

As for recruiting, Michigan won't end up with the #1 class, even with Gary and some other last minute flips. Regardless, great class with or without any additional commitments. But, one thing Michigan State has proven over the last few years is that player development within the program is MORE important than recruiting rankings.

Watching MSU throughout the season and especially in the Bama game, I'm really getting the sense that their run at the top has peaked and they'll be declining after 2015. They clawed their way to a handful of victories and hard to argue that luck didn't fall in the a favor a handful of times. Losing Narduzzi last offseason, there was a noticable drop in their defense. Cook and Burbridge leaving this season will hurt the offense quite a bit.

[QUOTE=pcbuck;10392650]Bruce Judson is in the Class of 2017. That class for OSU is absolutely loaded: Myers, Wade, Williamson, Sibley and Clark, Cage, and a few others I can't think of off the top of my head[/QUOTE]

You are right. My bad.

Did you see him tweet last night to a bunch of the guys we just got that he'll "see us soon"

Of course could be another visit but still. Michael Thomas was tweeting with him.

Thanks for starting this thread, and Go Blue.

[url=http://www.elevenwarriors.com/college-football-recruiting/2016/01/66732/michigan-rescinds-commitment-of-2016-offensive-lineman-two-weeks-before-national]Michigan Rescinds Commitment of 2016 Offensive Lineman Two Weeks Before National Signing Day | Eleven Warriors[/url]

[QUOTE=asujbl;10393061][url=http://www.elevenwarriors.com/college-football-recruiting/2016/01/66732/michigan-rescinds-commitment-of-2016-offensive-lineman-two-weeks-before-national]Michigan Rescinds Commitment of 2016 Offensive Lineman Two Weeks Before National Signing Day | Eleven Warriors[/url][/QUOTE]

That is disappointing for a kid that stuck to his commitment. I have to wonder if there is another underlying issue (other than Harb's pulling the rug from under him). Grades/test scores are the first thing that come to mind. If it's merely Harbaugh pulling his scholly, that's not good.

[QUOTE=Davis;10393149]That is disappointing for a kid that stuck to his commitment. I have to wonder if there is another underlying issue (other than Harb's pulling the rug from under him). Grades/test scores are the first thing that come to mind. If it's merely Harbaugh pulling his scholly, that's not good.[/QUOTE]

Rumor is lack of work ethic. And Harbaugh warned all recruits that were offered from Hoke's tenure that they had to prove and continue to earn the scholarship.

Could also be academics, too. All speculation at this point. I'm sure this will become a bigger deal than what it is. This happens on the regular elsewhere all of the time.

And Gary is going to Ole Miss

[QUOTE=bucknut27;10393959]And Gary is going to Ole Miss[/QUOTE]

Is that your prediction or is that based on something?

FWIW, and Ole Miss recruiting insider flipped his prediction to Michigan today.

Sounds like the Buckeyes have flipped Sam Bruce. Nothing official yet

Illini need there to be some type of draft pick style recruiting where they get first dibs

Sounds like Dredrick Snelson will likely flip his commitment from Minnesota. He is visiting with Penn State right before signing day and there are rumors that suggest he is either committing to Miami (was a verbal there before flipping to Minnesota), Maryland, or Penn State.

Even with that BIG loss, I think the Gophers still have had a decent recruiting class. Getting Seth Green committed and signed already was huge for the program at the QB position. ILB Carter Coughlin will likely be a 4 year starter in Minnesota and getting commitments from Phillip Howard, Tyler Johnson, Antoine Winfield Jr, Kiodre Thomas, and Kamal Martin were nice commitments. Howard, Johnson, and Martin will all likely be playing either WR or DB (Johnson best shot at DB) and Winfield and Thomas will fill in nicely in the defense against the pass, along with Winfield Jr. returning kicks and punts (Ran a 4.27 40 yard dash).

I expect a bounce back season by the Gophers. They have a pretty soft schedule this season, aside from Penn State, Iowa, and Wisconsin (who is always solid). A 8-9 win season shouldn't be out of question. We have the defense to do it, just depends on if they make a QB switch or not and how Jay Johnson will do with play calling.

You guys can talk about high school kids all you want. MSU will just keep beating both of you ;)

247sports just did their final rankings for the class of 2016.
As far as the team rankings go, OSU is #1, UM #6, PSU #12, MSU #13, and Wisconsin #27. Obviously there's still almost 2 weeks to go so a lot can change until then.

Michigan has lost a couple guys but this was expected. More room for others who are near locks to jump on board. 4* corner David Long picks between Michigan and Washington today. My money is on the maize and blue.

[QUOTE=JustinVerlander07;10394624]You guys can talk about high school kids all you want. MSU will just keep beating both of you ;)[/QUOTE]

And be completely owned by Nick Saban.

[QUOTE=groundsupport;10396712]And be completely pwned by Nick Saban.[/QUOTE]

Fixed it for you.

[QUOTE=groundsupport;10396712]And be completely owned by Nick Saban.[/QUOTE]

For someone who believes MSU doesn't matter, that's all you seem to talk and think about.

[QUOTE=DetroitFan14;10396558]Michigan has lost a couple guys but this was expected..[/QUOTE]

"Lost" or Harbaugh pulled their scholarships?

[QUOTE=JustinVerlander07;10397195]For someone who believes MSU doesn't matter, that's all you seem to talk and think about.[/QUOTE]

I can't respond to what you wrote now?

Such a sally.

[QUOTE=groundsupport;10397219]I can't respond to what you wrote now?

Such a sally.[/QUOTE]

Go for it, and just admit you are completely obsessed with MSU.

[QUOTE=JustinVerlander07;10397223]Go for it, and just admit you are completely obsessed with MSU.[/QUOTE]

I like how angry and defensive you get.

"THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT “UNVERIFIED VORACITY.” Last week, Ohio State signed a record college apparel contract with Nike to the tune of $252 million over 15 years.

Not long after, That Hippie Up North popped his head out of his hole to dispute the real value of Ohio State's deal and insist that Michigan's 11-year, $122.32 million contract (with an option to extend to a 15-year, $169 million deal) was more valuable:

[I]• Both schools have a 15-year deal; Michigan has an opt-out after 11.
• Michigan gets 12 million upfront; OSU gets 20.
• OSU gets 3.44 million for the first 11 years and 4.44 for the last four.
• M gets 4.82 million for the first ten years, 5.32 in 11, and 5.82 for the last four.
• Total dough: Michigan, 88.8 million. Ohio State, 75.6 million.

OSU gets more upfront but inflation isn't sufficient to make up the deficit, especially since Michigan has an opt-out four years earlier. So OSU's "biggest ever contract" actually delivers 13 million fewer dollars than Michigan's. But OSU gets more Nike volleyballs so they've got that going for them.[/I]

This is true—if you ignore the other elements of Ohio State's contract, which includes scholarship money, internships, and most importantly, $41 million to be used outside of athletics.

It takes a special kind of hubris to look at $75.6 million in cash and $94.5 million in apparel money and conclude that those come to $252 million, but that's the mind that reduces equipment and gear for 36 varsity sports to “more Nike volleyballs,” too.

Michigan Men: Bad at football. Bad at math"

[url]http://www.elevenwarriors.com/skull-sessions/2016/01/66767/thursday-skull-session-lets-go-happy-jamarco-scouting-bosa-americans-cant-drive-in-snow[/url]

[QUOTE=groundsupport;10397232]I like how angry and defensive you get.[/QUOTE]

I'm not angry, nor am I being defensive. I just think it's weird how you obsess about a school you say is irrelevant.

[QUOTE=JustinVerlander07;10397356]I'm not angry, nor am I being defensive. I just think it's weird how you obsess about a school you say is irrelevant.[/QUOTE]

Just met groundsupport today huh? :D

[QUOTE=JustinVerlander07;10397356]I'm not angry, nor am I being defensive. I just think it's weird how you obsess about a school you say is irrelevant.[/QUOTE]

Feel free to quote that for me.

[QUOTE=groundsupport;10397370]Feel free to quote that for me.[/QUOTE]

That was easy.

[url]http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/4463185-post1281.html[/url]

Fair enough.

[QUOTE=JustinVerlander07;10394624]You guys can talk about high school kids all you want. MSU will just keep beating both of you ;)[/QUOTE]

Nebraska and Alabama say hi. :D

Man, I thought this was the Big Ten 2016 thread, not the MSU/Michigan Argue-Fest 2016 thread

[QUOTE=Big35Hurt;10397438]Nebraska and Alabama say hi. :D[/QUOTE]

Send them my best, bud!

[QUOTE=CC_123;10397453]Man, I thought this was the Big Ten 2016 thread, not the MSU/Michigan Argue-Fest 2016 thread[/QUOTE]

Hopefully groundsupport just gets banned and we never hear from him again on here.

[QUOTE=JustinVerlander07;10397486]Send them my best, bud!



Hopefully groundsupport just gets banned and we never hear from him again on here.[/QUOTE]

See. Such anger.

All I did was bring up Nick Saban.

:D

Former Michigan coach Lloyd Carr is a new member of the College football playoff committee.

Clemson's Deshaun Watson is a 9-to-2 favorite to win the 2016 Heisman Trophy. Ohio State's J.T. Barrett isn't far behind at 10 to 1

[QUOTE=CC_123;10397453]Man, I thought this was the Big Ten 2016 thread, not the MSU/Michigan Argue-Fest 2016 thread[/QUOTE]


As is every Big Ten thread except when O$U does something meaningful. I'm not even sure the rest of us are a minority on the board, but we're certainly not as vocal. Mostly because the blowhards deem factoids about our schools meaningless as our programs are "irrelevant" in their eyes. There are several Hoosiers, Badgers, Terrapins, etc around here in addition to your Gophers, but we can't be heard over the yelling of those that wish to bellow out their dominance.

[url=http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2016/01/21/michigan-football-david-long/79136638/]Four-star CB David Long Jr. commits to Michigan football[/url]

[QUOTE=CC_123;10397453]Man, I thought this was the Big Ten 2016 thread, not the MSU/Michigan Argue-Fest 2016 thread[/QUOTE]

I think the ground squirrels can cover against the Beavers this year.

[QUOTE=Pot Roast;10398909]I think the ground squirrels can cover against the Beavers this year.[/QUOTE]

Im not even 100% confident on it honestly. If Leidner is still under the helm, I am not confident in us winning any game. If Seth Green starts as a true freshman, I think he will take the Big Ten by storm. Strong arm, accurate, and can get out of the pocket and gain big yards. Pair him with Shannon Brooks and Rodney Smith in the backfield and it could be a deadly option offense. Sad thing is, I do not think the coaching staff for the Gophers will grow a pair and realize that they have better back up QB's then Leidner.

Hopefully Urban will be able to turn all these great recruiting classes into some more offensive playmakers this year. Got a lot to replace, but he's never failed to put together a monster recruiting class in his time here. Plus they've made some very positive changes to the coaching staff, so there are plenty of reasons to be excited for Ohio State Football in 2016.

[QUOTE=lambeauleap87;10399349]Hopefully Urban will be able to turn all these great recruiting classes into some more offensive playmakers this year. Got a lot to replace, but he's never failed to put together a monster recruiting class in his time here. Plus they've made some [B]very positive changes to the coaching staff[/B], so there are plenty of reasons to be excited for Ohio State Football in 2016.[/QUOTE]

Very underrated by the general football fan. He added some really good guys to the staff. I was shocked he was able to get who he got even if it's only for 1 year before they take a promotion somewhere.

Buckeyes need to pick up Rashard Lawrence today. That would be huge. I think he is announcing at 10:30. It's either us or LSU but of course it's not easy to get a kid to leave Louisiana. 247 sports has him as the #23 player in the Country.

If there is one spot that concerns me on the team it is at DT - he'd be a huge pickup for what we need

Sagarin final college football rankings.

1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Ohio State
4. Oklahoma
5. Stanford
6. Mississippi
7. TCU
8. Baylor
9. Michigan
10. Tennessee

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/]NCAAF Sagarin - NCAAF Football - USA TODAY[/url]

[QUOTE=asujbl;10400598]Buckeyes need to pick up Rashard Lawrence today. That would be huge. I think he is announcing at 10:30. It's either us or LSU but of course it's not easy to get a kid to leave Louisiana. 247 sports has him as the #23 player in the Country.

If there is one spot that concerns me on the team it is at DT - he'd be a huge pickup for what we need[/QUOTE]

Picked LSU

Good for him. I'll never begrudge a player that wants to stay at home.

I just stopped by to see what Alice had to say.:coffee:

[QUOTE=aliceinpains;10401122]Sagarin final college football rankings.

1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Ohio State
4. Oklahoma
5. Stanford
6. Mississippi
7. TCU
8. Baylor
9. Michigan
10. Tennessee

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/]NCAAF Sagarin - NCAAF Football - USA TODAY[/url][/QUOTE]

Wow he had Michigan State all the way down at 17th. Oh and his systems thinks Alabama, Clemson and Oklahoma would all beat Ohio State. :)

[QUOTE=asujbl;10400598]Buckeyes need to pick up Rashard Lawrence today. That would be huge. I think he is announcing at 10:30. It's either us or LSU but of course it's not easy to get a kid to leave Louisiana. 247 sports has him as the #23 player in the Country.

If there is one spot that concerns me on the team it is at DT - he'd be a huge pickup for what we need[/QUOTE]


I agree that DT is a bit concerning. I like what I've seen in Michael Hill, but hopefully one of the younger guys like Landers, Thompson, or even Cornell can step it up.

Let's make some predictions for the 2016 season standings....

East:
1) Ohio State
2) Michigan
3) Michigan State
4) Indiana
5) Penn State
6) Maryland
7) Rutgers

WEST:
1) Iowa
2) Nebraska
3) Wisconsin
4) Northwestern
5) Minnesota
6) Illinois
7) Purdue

B1G Champ: Ohio State

[QUOTE=Big35Hurt;10403970]Let's make some predictions for the 2016 season standings....

East:
1) Ohio State
2) Michigan
3) Michigan State
4) Indiana
5) Penn State
6) Maryland
7) Rutgers

WEST:
1) Iowa
2) Nebraska
3) Wisconsin
4) Northwestern
5) Minnesota
6) Illinois
7) Purdue

B1G Champ: Ohio State[/QUOTE]

Looks about right to me

Grabbing a popcorn and hopping in this thread. It's nice to see some rival fans argue.

This Penn Stater is going to keep pretending OSU and Michigan are our rivals while slowly realizing it's going to be UMD and Rutgers.

I hate to say this but I don't think Ohio State wins the Big Ten this year. They will have a very young team and play a VERY tough schedule with lots of tough road games. Wont be easy.

[QUOTE=aliceinpains;10404429]I hate to say this but I don't think Ohio State wins the Big Ten this year. They will have a very young team and play a VERY tough schedule with lots of tough road games. Wont be easy.[/QUOTE]

JT Barrett

The rest will work out. It's just like the NFL. QB dominates all.

[QUOTE=Big35Hurt;10403970]Let's make some predictions for the 2016 season standings....

East:
1) Ohio State
2) Michigan
3) Michigan State
4) Indiana
5) Penn State
6) Maryland
7) Rutgers

WEST:
1) Iowa
2) Nebraska
3) Wisconsin
4) Northwestern
5) Minnesota
6) Illinois
7) Purdue

B1G Champ: Ohio State[/QUOTE]

I'll switch it up a bit just to be different and because I don't think my "prediction" is out of the question

EAST:
1) Michigan
2) Ohio St.
3) Penn St.
4) Michigan St.
5) Maryland
6) Indiana
7) Rutgers

WEST:
1) Nebraska
2) Iowa
3) Minnesota
4) Wisconsin
5) Northwestern
6) Illinois
7) Purdue

Big Ten Champions end up being Michigan, sadly.

There will be a lot of new QBs in the East in 2016. I think that fact alone gives Ohio State the edge with having Barrett coming back.

[QUOTE=CC_123;10404541]I'll switch it up a bit just to be different and because I don't think my "prediction" is out of the question

EAST:
1) Michigan
2) Ohio St.
3) Penn St.
4) Michigan St.
5) Maryland
6) Indiana
7) Rutgers

WEST:
1) Nebraska
2) Iowa
3) Minnesota
4) Wisconsin
5) Northwestern
6) Illinois
7) Purdue

Big Ten Champions end up being Michigan, sadly.[/QUOTE]

Michigan with no QB winning at MSU and at OSU to win the division?

[QUOTE=JustinVerlander07;10404777]Michigan with no QB winning at MSU and at OSU to win the division?[/QUOTE]

O'Korn is better than anything Sparty will run out there. Michigan wins at least one of those games this year.

[QUOTE=hairysasquatch;10404941]O'Korn is better than anything Sparty will run out there. Michigan wins at least one of those games this year.[/QUOTE]

Who is "O'Korn"?

[QUOTE=JustinVerlander07;10404955]Who is "O'Korn"?[/QUOTE]


I didn't realize they had him either. Transferred from Houston. Was very good as a true freshman in 2013.

[QUOTE=aliceinpains;10404429]I hate to say this but I don't think Ohio State wins the Big Ten this year. They will have a very young team and play a VERY tough schedule with lots of tough road games. Wont be easy.[/QUOTE]

I almost went with Michigan to win the East and B1G, but OSU still has so much talent. Plus they have made some coaching changes from what I have heard, and my guess is they learned something about the play calling on offense that held them back in 2015.

[QUOTE=CC_123;10404541]I'll switch it up a bit just to be different and because I don't think my "prediction" is out of the question

EAST:
1) Michigan
2) Ohio St.
3) Penn St.
4) Michigan St.
5) Maryland
6) Indiana
7) Rutgers

WEST:
1) Nebraska
2) Iowa
3) Minnesota
4) Wisconsin
5) Northwestern
6) Illinois
7) Purdue

Big Ten Champions end up being Michigan, sadly.[/QUOTE]

I think they will see some effect of losing Durken to Maryland. Not a huge one, but enough for me that it keeps them from winning the East. Plus the things I mentioned about OSU in the post above.

[QUOTE=JustinVerlander07;10397486]Send them my best, bud!



Hopefully groundsupport just gets banned and we never hear from him again on here.[/QUOTE]

I would rather hear from GS than others that post and I hate Michigan.

[QUOTE=asujbl;10404434]JT Barrett

The rest will work out. It's just like the NFL. QB dominates all.[/QUOTE]

Not without good play calling. We should have beat MSU, but we all know what happened there.

It's disappointing to see the big ten is starting to go the way of the SEC in recruiting tactics. But the evidence shows that's the only way to win.

Buckeyes play 2 conference champions their first 2 out of 3 games. Yikes.

Its also good to see they have Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Northwestern back on the schedule, but I don't like having MSU and Michigan back to back.

I understand what you're saying. It's not far out of the question to think Michigan could go undefeated if they don't use a QB. Harbaugh will make it work.


But thankfully, they have a few viable options. After seeing Rudock's progress from week 1 to the bowl game, I'll be comfortable with whoever they trot out there. It'll be O'Korn though...a lot of people said he would have been the starter last year if he didn't have to sit out the year.


[QUOTE=JustinVerlander07;10404777]Michigan with no QB winning at MSU and at OSU to win the division?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Junior Griffey;10405610]
But thankfully, they have a few viable options. After seeing Rudock's progress from week 1 to the bowl game, I'll be comfortable with whoever they trot out there. It'll be O'Korn though...a lot of people said he would have been the starter last year if he didn't have to sit out the year.[/QUOTE]

I don't know that I'd call someone like Shane Morris a 'viable option'.

I didn't. He's 3rd on the depth chart by the start of the season I bet.

[QUOTE=JustinVerlander07;10407251]I don't know that I'd call someone like Shane Morris a 'viable option'.[/QUOTE]