2016 Topps Star Wars The Force Awakens Series 2
 

Well, may as well keep rolling along with a thread for the next set...

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[I]Configuration: 24 packs per box. 8 cards per pack.

PRODUCT DESCRIPTION

BASE CARDS
(100) Base Cards telling the story of 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens'.
There are 3 parallels in Topps Star Wars The Force Awakens Series 1:
- Lightsaber Green (1 per pack)
- Lightsaber Blue (1:2 packs)
- Lightsaber Purple (1:4 packs)
- Holofoil (1:12 packs) *New vs. TFA Series 1*
- Gold (numbered to 100) [HOBBY ONLY]
- Platinum (numbered to 1) [HOBBY ONLY]


INSERTS
Star Wars: The Force Awakens Series 2 has 5 different insert sets for collectors to chase.

Character Bios
Featuring characters from Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Stickers
Featuring characters from Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Alien Identification Guide
Featuring new alien species

Character Journeys
Profiling important characters from the film

Concept Art
Featuring artwork used to create the film


AUTOGRAPHS
Base Autographs
From the stars of the film

Lightsaber Purple Autograph Parallels
Autograph parallel numbered to 50 [HOBBY ONLY]

Holofoil Autograph Parallels
Autograph parallel numbered to 25 [HOBBY ONLY]

Gold Autograph Parallels
Autograph parallel numbered to 10 [HOBBY ONLY]

Imperial Guard Red Autograph Parallels
1:1 actor autographs [HOBBY ONLY]

Dual Autographs - 3 subjects

Triple Autographs - 2 subjects

[B]Quad Book Autograph - 1 subject[/B] :eek:


MEDALLION CARDS - 36 subjects
Bronze, Silver, Gold and Platinum parallel

Two Medallions - The Resistance and The First Order.
- 8 characters across each medallion.
- Gold Silver and Bronze versions of each.


SKETCH CARDS AND PRINTING PLATES

Sketch Cards
Sketch cards by Topps artists

Printing Plates

Autographed Printing Plates[/I]


Here's hoping that we get a Quad of Han, Chewie, Rey, and Finn. That'd be a $5k card at least! What we'll probably get is R2, C-3P0, Ackbar, and Nien Numb :p

I'm also curious since Topps said the 100 card base set will only have story cards, if they'll reuse some from Series 1 but with actual still instead of illustrations, or if it'll continue as cards 101-200.

Also, it's a little sad we aren't able to get another costume/prop relic for this Series, but at least there's less medallions.

so same boring design as series one ? and wheres the stickers ? gotta love the retro looking stickers

[QUOTE=mma138;10296055]so same boring design as series one ? and wheres the stickers ? gotta love the retro looking stickers[/QUOTE]

I actually quite liked the design, do you mean Journey was boring?

no I like journey, love the heritage look . but the force awakens series one is very bland. almost full bleed. I like borders. I may get a box. but that's it , there amost 200 a box why ????

Does anybody get annoyed when you have a series 2 set and the parallels are different? If you are a foil or gold collector, you can get them in series 2, but not series 1. Crypto did the same thing with the Hobbit sets. Smaug has a foil parallel, the first does not.

I am all for changing things up, but do it when there is a natural cut off point in sets. Could just be my collector OCD kicking in.

[QUOTE=Vargaman;10294384]I'm also curious since Topps said the 100 card base set will only have story cards, if they'll reuse some from Series 1 but with actual still instead of illustrations, or if it'll continue as cards 101-200.[/QUOTE]

I was curious about this myself. But technically they would need to be 104-204 as Target released three promo cards that were numbered 101, 102, and 103 instead of the typical P1, P2, etc.

[QUOTE=Scottish Punk;10297228]Does anybody get annoyed when you have a series 2 set and the parallels are different? If you are a foil or gold collector, you can get them in series 2, but not series 1. Crypto did the same thing with the Hobbit sets. Smaug has a foil parallel, the first does not.

I am all for changing things up, but do it when there is a natural cut off point in sets. Could just be my collector OCD kicking in.[/QUOTE]

I don't follow. Both Gold and Foil are in Series 1 as well.

[QUOTE=DrGhostbuster;10299647]I was curious about this myself. But technically they would need to be 104-204 as Target released three promo cards that were numbered 101, 102, and 103 instead of the typical P1, P2, etc.[/QUOTE]

Picture change on those or a huge price drop.....

[QUOTE=Archangel1775;10320780]Picture change on those or a huge price drop.....[/QUOTE]

huh? what are you saying?

[QUOTE=Vargaman;10321509]huh? what are you saying?[/QUOTE]

I *think* what he's saying is that the cards numbered 101-103 that come in Series 2 will need to have a different/modified picture than the 101-103 cards from Target, or the cards from Target will dramatically drop in price. In other words, if you can't differentiate them from the mass set, they won't hold their value.

[QUOTE=Faulkenburg;10368927]I *think* what he's saying is that the cards numbered 101-103 that come in Series 2 will need to have a different/modified picture than the 101-103 cards from Target, or the cards from Target will dramatically drop in price. In other words, if you can't differentiate them from the mass set, they won't hold their value.[/QUOTE]

Same happened with Galactic Files ... if you bought the Print Plate box you got a bonus set of cards that were sequentially numbered to add on to the end of the first set. Those sold well ... until GF2 came along, and the first cards in that set were the same characters / numbers as the "bonus" set. There were minor differences in the cards, but it really made them much less valuable / worth having.

I wish I knew more about Series 2, because I cannot get myself to pay current presale prices, when I have no idea of the checklist and production of this product.

I mean if FA1 had the number of boxes we originally thought, the price would be nearly half what it is today.

cant believe topps screwed this up. I cant see them messing up again. im sure there will be plenty for everyone for series 2.

Who has this up for presale?

There are a few sites, but they want like $150 a box.
I would rather buy series 1 for slightly more knowing what you can get and the odds.

[QUOTE=Faulkenburg;10368927]I *think* what he's saying is that the cards numbered 101-103 that come in Series 2 will need to have a different/modified picture than the 101-103 cards from Target, or the cards from Target will dramatically drop in price. In other words, if you can't differentiate them from the mass set, they won't hold their value.[/QUOTE]

Even if the images were the same, the Target cards still did not have foil printing making them different from the pack inserted cards.

[QUOTE=notoriousrmb;10373398]Even if the images were the same, the Target cards still did not have foil printing making them different from the pack inserted cards.[/QUOTE]

I just can't see Topps starting a set off with those 3 characters so my guess is that numbering will start over and there should be more story cards since all we got in series one were scenes from the trailers. I wouldn't be surprised if the Target images do not make it into series 2 at all.

Anyone know of any sites that still have cases of TFA series 2 still available?

[QUOTE=Rsxtacee;10377054]Anyone know of any sites that still have cases of TFA series 2 still available?[/QUOTE]

I don't think it's a matter of still available so much as waiting to find out allocations. Too many sites honor pre-orders and would lose big if cut again by TOPPS.

[QUOTE=Vargaman;10400089]I don't think it's a matter of still available so much as waiting to find out allocations. Too many sites honor pre-orders and would lose big if cut again by TOPPS.[/QUOTE]

+1 to all of this. All distributors are in "wait-and-see-mode" with this stuff.

I would not pay current prices even if sites are offering series 2.
I am betting that series 2 will not be as limited as series 1.
Of course I have been wrong before and will be wrong again!

Oh come on, admit, you've only been wrong once before, and it was that time you thought you were wrong, but you were really right :D

[QUOTE=jdhaugh11;10400890]I would not pay current prices even if sites are offering series 2.
I am betting that series 2 will not be as limited as series 1.
Of course I have been wrong before and will be wrong again![/QUOTE]

:eek:

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[QUOTE=richscards;10401306]Oh come on, admit, you've only been wrong once before, and it was that time you thought you were wrong, but you were really right :D[/QUOTE]

LOL, very true!

[QUOTE=starwars808;10401620]:eek:

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And it is 64% off! Like $256 was the original price!

[QUOTE=jdhaugh11;10402684]And it is 64% off! Like $256 was the original price![/QUOTE]

That's actually a fairly reputable dealer. Think that 64% off is just a sales gimmick. Anyone know what they are accepting as a "Best Offer"? Neither BO or DA have this product for sale!!

[QUOTE=chondaville;10406817]That's actually a fairly reputable dealer. Think that 64% off is just a sales gimmick. Anyone know what they are accepting as a "Best Offer"? Neither BO or DA have this product for sale!![/QUOTE]
That dealer just does shows and dumps the product that don't sale fast so he can make money off the rarer products

[QUOTE=hannahs1;10408666]That dealer just does shows and dumps the product that don't sale fast so he can make money off the rarer products[/QUOTE]

Well it sounds like that's something personal you hold against them. Doesn't change the fact that they are reputable and have fullfilled every single pre-order of items like this I bought from them, even if they've skyrocketed once released.

My question was also not answered as I cannot find this product anywhere. What are they accepting for a box???

This is crazy

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Will they make 600 cases or 2000... difference of 130 and 60 dollars.. imo

Very risky pre buy....

Also people on ebay pre selling... if this is short printed like series 1.. people will get cut like last time...

[QUOTE=kyle1707;10434645]This is crazy

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Will they make 600 cases or 2000... difference of 130 and 60 dollars.. imo

Very risky pre buy....

Also people on ebay pre selling... if this is short printed like series 1.. people will get cut like last time...[/QUOTE]

I can still pre order this at various places for almost half the cost. Not sure what's going on.

[QUOTE=Jackg1980;10435000]I can still pre order this at various places for almost half the cost. Not sure what's going on.[/QUOTE]

I was able to pre order series 1 for a while...

was it a week or 2 before release I was cut from 3-4 cases to 1

[QUOTE=kyle1707;10435082]I was able to pre order series 1 for a while...

was it a week or 2 before release I was cut from 3-4 cases to 1[/QUOTE]

Were you preordering at 140$? That's what I am getting to.

[QUOTE=Jackg1980;10435206]Were you preordering at 140$? That's what I am getting to.[/QUOTE]

No....

Just saying how risky it is to pre order at 139...

If they make 1500-2000 cases it will be 65 a box....

What are odds it will be 600 cases like series 1

I would think this would be a little bit more plentiful then Series 1 but not alot. I still think this will be shorter print but nothing close to series 1.

Every major dist is done and not taking any more pre-orders for this product.

I'd imagine, like series 1 we will get zero production #'s till stuff starts rolling in to dist's the week before..

[QUOTE=daviswr7;10438795]I would think this would be a little bit more plentiful then Series 1 but not alot. I still think this will be shorter print but nothing close to series 1.

Every major dist is done and not taking any more pre-orders for this product.

I'd imagine, like series 1 we will get zero production #'s till stuff starts rolling in to dist's the week before..[/QUOTE]

I wonder how much is already pre ordered and why are the distributors not taking anymore orders.

[QUOTE=Jackg1980;10439015]I wonder how much is already pre ordered and why are the distributors not taking anymore orders.[/QUOTE]

The deadline from Topps to place orders was many weeks ago.

Most distributors require dealers to place firm orders by the cut off date. After that, they usually don't take orders unless they ordered some quantity of the product for post-cut-off sales.

Dealers stick their necks out a LOT in order to guess how much product they will need. Distributors, not so much.

Ed

Probably one of the few products.that is limited and involving Star Wars. With Topps history,look for an increased case run

journey force awakens 1500-2000
Chrome 1500-2000
Series 1 600
series 2 ? risky pre buy?

What will topps do? would not be shocked either way .. 600 or 2000

I have pre order 4 cases.. I know if I get all 4 it is a huge run...

If I get cut like series 1... you know it is SP

My hope is to get cut and have it like series 1 to be honest...

I was able to finally find a few boxes at a decent price, I was not willing to pay $150+ for a product that at this point we know little about.
We know more about what is in FA Chrome that comes out in July!
I got 3 boxes so far at $99, not sure if I will try to find a case or not.
The site I got the boxes from did not offer cases.

Force Awaken chrome July?

[QUOTE=kyle1707;10441313]journey force awakens 1500-2000
Chrome 1500-2000
Series 1 600
series 2 ? risky pre buy?

What will topps do? would not be shocked either way .. 600 or 2000

I have pre order 4 cases.. I know if I get all 4 it is a huge run...

If I get cut like series 1... you know it is SP

My hope is to get cut and have it like series 1 to be honest...[/QUOTE]

It depends who you pre order from and if they value you as a buyer or if they are reputable or if they pre sold more than they knew what they were getting.

My LCS ordered 5 cases of FA1 and he got all 5 cases he ordered.

[QUOTE=jdhaugh11;10483595]It depends who you pre order from and if they value you as a buyer or if they are reputable or if they pre sold more than they knew what they were getting.

My LCS ordered 5 cases of FA1 and he got all 5 cases he ordered.[/QUOTE]

Very rarely does Topps cut direct Brick & Mortar accounts...obviously, the B&M or LCS accounts are not able to order the quantities that distributors are afforded. Topps has not cut any of our direct orders.

Whelp, Topps Facebook just announced an auto of one of BB-8s operators...*sigh*

I'd rather have a fake relic w/ a piece of a ping-pong ball they call a BB-8 relic.

[QUOTE=Vargaman;10492886]Whelp, Topps Facebook just announced an auto of one of BB-8s operators...*sigh*

I'd rather have a fake relic w/ a piece of a ping-pong ball they call a BB-8 relic.[/QUOTE]

I'd rather Bill Hader... Hope he gets in eventually.

Over 25 new signers for series 2 according to the Twitter account of the brand manager.

[QUOTE=Vargaman;10492886]Whelp, Topps Facebook just announced an auto of one of BB-8s operators...*sigh*

I'd rather have a fake relic w/ a piece of a ping-pong ball they call a BB-8 relic.[/QUOTE]

Still better than my 10th copy of even piell, and if Topps was smart it would be on a cool picture or even a sketch of BB8. But guess that's not happening

Really hoping for Simon Pegg...that would be a great one!

Well with 25 new signers we had to know several would be like this or people with very small rolls.
At least with an auto like this, it will be cool for the kids. At least I know my son will think it's a nice hit.
He thinks our Ezra Chrome auto is one of the better autos you can get and I am happy that he thinks that!

Was Daniel Craig really an uncredited stormtrooper like IMDB says?

[QUOTE=jdhaugh11;10494351]Was Daniel Craig really an uncredited stormtrooper like IMDB says?[/QUOTE]

He was the one Rey did her Jedi mind trick on...

[QUOTE=buckycap;10493590]Over 25 new signers for series 2 according to the Twitter account of the brand manager.[/QUOTE]

25 NEW signers? That's a surprising number. It will be interesting to see who they get and how many end up per case.

[QUOTE=Vargaman;10492886]Whelp, Topps Facebook just announced an auto of one of BB-8s operators...*sigh*

I'd rather have a fake relic w/ a piece of a ping-pong ball they call a BB-8 relic.[/QUOTE]

I wish they'd do more behind-the-scenes folks like this, I think it's awesome. They're what made SW 30th one of the best autograph sets ever.

[QUOTE=Sharard;10493853][B]Still better than my 10th copy of even piell[/B], and if Topps was smart it would be on a cool picture or even a sketch of BB8. But guess that's not happening[/QUOTE]

You nailed it. Every box can't have an a lister so it's nice to see new blood.

With a much larger auto list and no relic cards compared to Series 1, I would expect several more autos per case than the average of 3 people got in Series 1.
I would expect this number to double to about 6 autos per case.
Hopefully like Series 1, most cases yield you at least 1 top level auto.

This looks to be the first set in a long time where we are getting a good amount of new signers.
Many of the last few releases have had large checklists, but they have only sprinkled in new signers.

Even FA1 gave us at most 2 new signers and the checklist was tiny.

Yes there will be several lower end signers in the product, but they will be new signers and from the movie that has sparked added interest.

Many people people will be trying to go after these autos and even making sets.

A common auto from this set will go for a decent amount, so to compare them to common autos of other sets is not apples to apples.

There should not be a huge amount of each auto out there, so hopefully prices stay at a decent level.

Even if they happen to double production of Series 2 from what they made of Series 1, that would only be 15,000 boxes.

Also even if you get 6 autos per case, only about 4 of those would be base autos.

It will not be easy or cheap to put the entire auto set together or even get all the easy and cheaper ones in fact.

Are any of the artists able to give any details about this set?
Did they have to make multiple sketch "copies" like in series 1?
How many total did they do for this set compared to series 1?
Are there the same # of artists as series 1 or more?
I think if we had some of these answers we could then have a better estimate of the production run of this product.

[QUOTE=jdhaugh11;10508540]This looks to be the first set in a long time where we are getting a good amount of new signers.
Many of the last few releases have had large checklists, but they have only sprinkled in new signers.

Even FA1 gave us at most 2 new signers and the checklist was tiny.

Yes there will be several lower end signers in the product, but they will be new signers and from the movie that has sparked added interest.

Many people people will be trying to go after these autos and even making sets.

A common auto from this set will go for a decent amount, so to compare them to common autos of other sets is not apples to apples.

There should not be a huge amount of each auto out there, so hopefully prices stay at a decent level.

Even if they happen to double production of Series 2 from what they made of Series 1, that would only be 15,000 boxes.

Also even if you get 6 autos per case, only about 4 of those would be base autos.

It will not be easy or cheap to put the entire auto set together or even get all the easy and cheaper ones in fact.[/QUOTE]

But still, an auto of "puppeteer #1" won't be higher than like $20-$30, if that.

Deep Roy who signed High Tek for the first time as friggin' Yoda only gets around $30 for his base autos.

I get the point with collectors who want an auto of everyone, but these low level people they will be a majority of the autos.

I for one would like to see Topps stop using a few signers on their sets, because when Ric Ollie and Leesub Sirlin are your hit, whoop de doo, $5 auto right there.

With 25 new signers doesn't the print run here HAVE to be significantly larger? These pre-order prices are very bloaded IMO.

The people who dropped $140 on pre-order for this product may be quite annoyed once release #'s start to surface...

I agree with the current prices. I can still get series 1 for $140 and series 2 is going for that or more in most places. I got my boxes of series 2 for $99.99, which is a good buy and about all I want to pay until I know the checklist, odds and production run.
At around $100, I feel it is a small risk.

Well we are exactly 1 month away from the release of Series 2 (29 days to be exact!), is anyone getting excited?

So far this is what we know about the product, please let me know if I miss anything:

100 card base set
same parallels as series 1, other than they are adding a Holofoil that will fall 1 in 12 packs
2 Short Print base cards
5 insert sets for a total of 54 cards
No relic cards in this product
36 similar medallion cards to series 1
25 Auto signers and so far we know 5 of them (Snap Wexley, BB-8 and C-3PO, Dr. Kalonia and David Acord as a Stormtrooper)
Auto parallels: Purple #/50, Holofoil #/25, Gold #/10, Red 1/1's and 4 Printing Plates
3 Dual autos #/3
2 Triple autos #/3
There will also be a Quad Book auto, but not sure if this will be a 1/1 or if there will only be 1 Quad Book in the set?
There will also be Sketch cards, but not sure if it will be like series 1 and there are copies of each sketch

Production will almost certainly be up from the 7,646 boxes of FA1, but how much? 10,000 or 15,000 or 20,000? I can't see it being more than 20,000. My guess is around 15,000, but we will soon see.

Fingers crossed for a Domhnall Gleeson as General Hux auto!

[QUOTE=jdhaugh11;10543453]Well we are exactly 1 month away from the release of Series 2 (29 days to be exact!), is anyone getting excited?

So far this is what we know about the product, please let me know if I miss anything:

[B]2 Short Print base cards[/B]
[/QUOTE]


Where was this confirmed? I missed this.

[QUOTE=Dewman;10543703]Where was this confirmed? I missed this.[/QUOTE]

Mark Von Ohlen from Topps was on a Podcast that announced this along with the 2 new signers: Harriet Walter as Dr. Kalonia and David Acord as a Stormtrooper.

There is a link for the podcast on the Topps Star Wars Facebook page.

Also it looks like there will just be 1 Quad Book Auto, but still not sure of the print run for that card.

[QUOTE=Portlaw;10543690]Fingers crossed for a Domhnall Gleeson as General Hux auto![/QUOTE]

Yeah outside of the top few, he is certainly on the top of my list as well.

[QUOTE=jdhaugh11;10543876]Mark Von Ohlen from Topps was on a Podcast that announced this along with the 2 new signers: Harriet Walter as Dr. Kalonia and [B]David Acord as a Stormtrooper[/B].

There is a link for the podcast on the Topps Star Wars Facebook page.

Also it looks like there will just be 1 Quad Book Auto, but still not sure of the print run for that card.[/QUOTE]

Traitor!!!

[QUOTE=jdhaugh11;10543453]

Production will almost certainly be up from the 7,646 boxes of FA1, but how much? 10,000 or 15,000 or 20,000? I can't see it being more than 20,000. My guess is around 15,000, but we will soon see.[/QUOTE]

I think the biggest indicator of increased production is the fact that were jumping from 10 autographs (series 1) to 25 autographs (series 2). That's a 150% increase in autographs. I imagine sketches will be more plentiful as well and with the same amount of medallions all signs point to at least double the production #'s. Therefore making these pre-order prices ridonkulous.

There are also no relics in this product and those accounted for 3-4 of the hits per case, so we should see more than 3 autos per case in Series 2.

what is your prediction of the box/case price after release

I suspect price will drop a lot

[QUOTE=yaoming;10549002]what is your prediction of the box/case price after release

I suspect price will drop a lot[/QUOTE]

Disagree.

It will depend on the full auto checklist and the number of boxes they make.
I don't think this should be as high as series 1, so I would say it should go for around $125
Total guess at this point though.

[QUOTE=jdhaugh11;10543876]Mark Von Ohlen from Topps was on a Podcast that announced this along with the 2 new signers: Harriet Walter as Dr. Kalonia and David Acord as a Stormtrooper.

There is a link for the podcast on the Topps Star Wars Facebook page.

Also it looks like there will just be 1 Quad Book Auto, but still not sure of the print run for that card.[/QUOTE]


Thanks. Did they say if it was all of 2 of the 100 cards in the set, or if the SP's are variations of 2 of the base cards, like they did with Galactic Files?

They will be numbered 101 and 102, so they should be their own cards and not variations.

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Sorry, but Daisy Ridley should be in this, no excuses. I can't see a reason to order this if not.