Upper deck gets the Harry Potter license
 

[QUOTE] Upper Deck is excited to bring its iconic brands and flagship products to the world of Harry Potter. Initial releases will include Upper Deck Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone 25th Anniversary Trading Cards, a cinematic journey celebrating the 25th Anniversary of Sorcerer’s Stone. The set will include iconic Upper Deck flagship inserts, including UD Debuts featuring UD exclusives, high gloss, and Outburst parallels including a gold 1/1. To follow that, fans can also look forward to Fleer Ultra Harry Potter, which will showcase iconic Fleer Ultra inserts and original art trading cards. Key characters from the Harry Potter franchise will make their Upper Deck debuts, including Harry Potter, Ron Weasley, Hermione Granger, Professor Dumbledore, and Professor Snape. Both trading card sets will be available at Certified Diamond Dealers, mass retailers, as well as Upper Deck’s e-Pack™ platform[/QUOTE]

[url]https://upperdeck.com/upper-deck-announces-coveted-harry-potter-license-upcoming-product-collection/[/url]

This will sink or swim based on the autos they are able to get.

Pmg Harry Potter

[QUOTE=finfangfan;20136228]This will sink or swim based on the autos they are able to get.[/QUOTE]

I could see them try to pump products without autos.

This may be a non auto type release..which would be doa for most of us.

[QUOTE=finfangfan;20136228]This will sink or swim based on the autos they are able to get.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure they'll do fine. The got a lot of grief for their MCU sets but they did get damn near every major person at some point.

[QUOTE=PrinceVegeta;20136275]This may be a non auto type release..which would be doa for most of us.[/QUOTE]

no chance, PMG Potter chase will be wild.

They could definitely do some non-auto products and try to pump PMGs and numbered parallels. They could also do sketches or manufactured relics like diamond cards, wands, etc.

If they want to do autos, they could probably get most of the cast. I believe they all still sign and many of them do conventions.

I'm not a Potter fan (I was too old when the books/movies came out to really get into them), but it's definitely a good license for Upper Deck and should lead to a lot of new Epack activity. Unfortunately, I assume these sets will transfer to Upper Deck's lame new storage site instead of COMC.

[QUOTE=Rictor;20136317]They could definitely do some non-auto products and try to pump PMGs and numbered parallels. They could also do sketches or manufactured relics like diamond cards, wands, etc.

If they want to do autos, they could probably get most of the cast. I believe they all still sign and many of them do conventions.

I'm not a Potter fan (I was too old when the books/movies came out to really get into them), but it's definitely a good license for Upper Deck and should lead to a lot of new Epack activity. Unfortunately, I assume these sets will transfer to Upper Deck's lame new storage site instead of COMC.[/QUOTE]

Pretty sure their 'lame' new site doesn't take a quarter of a year to ship you your cards though.

[QUOTE=YayNJ;20136324]Pretty sure their 'lame' new site doesn't take a quarter of a year to ship you your cards though.[/QUOTE]

They’ve been slow to ship off Collect Forever comics in the past and they probably do like 2% of the business that COMC does. I don’t think The Authority is that big of an operation yet. They likely will have growing pains when they have to start scanning in hundreds of thousands of ePack cards. I also think they slab a lot of the stuff which is labor intensive and probably a waste for the lower dollar items (like the common Collect Forever comic books).

[QUOTE=YayNJ;20136297]no chance, PMG Potter chase will be wild.[/QUOTE]

I could care less, but I'll still order max to flip.

Love that upper deck using the old ways of distribution. Still able to get product direct.

What makes the sketch card option wild is the HUGE variety of creatures and secondary characters.

Miss me with those Ron & Draco sketches.
I want Luna Lovegood & Moaning Myrtle.

[QUOTE=finfangfan;20136339]They’ve been slow to ship off Collect Forever comics in the past and they probably do like 2% of the business that COMC does. I don’t think The Authority is that big of an operation yet. They likely will have growing pains when they have to start scanning in hundreds of thousands of ePack cards. I also think they slab a lot of the stuff which is labor intensive and probably a waste for the lower dollar items (like the common Collect Forever comic books).[/QUOTE]

.. and it never will be a 'big operation' if they avoid putting stuff like this on there :doh:

Harry Potter cards are back? I am so here for that! Love that this license is being brought back!

I traveled to Orlando for Xmas break to visit Universal theme parks. The amount of demand for HP and Nintendo is enormous (Epic Universe theme park)
After the JKR controversy, I thought the demand would die down some, but it's shoulder-to-shoulder and people enjoying their wands and rides and butterbeer.

It's a good move for UD to obtain the license. Cherry on top for me would be new original trio autos

[QUOTE=YayNJ;20136372].. and it never will be a 'big operation' if they avoid putting stuff like this on there :doh:[/QUOTE]

Point is they will face the same delays when volume ticks up. And it already takes them 2-3 weeks to ship off comics even though they have low volume.

Being located in Western PA should help them attract low wage workers tho. That seems to be one thing that is hurting COMC… being located in a high wage area.

[QUOTE=HiltonL;20136413]I traveled to Orlando for Xmas break to visit Universal theme parks. The amount of demand for HP and Nintendo is enormous (Epic Universe theme park)
After the JKR controversy, I thought the demand would die down some, but it's shoulder-to-shoulder and people enjoying their wands and rides and butterbeer.

It's a good move for UD to obtain the license. Cherry on top for me would be new original trio autos[/QUOTE]

Was also there with the family at all 3 parks. It was bonkers in the Potter and Nintendo sections.

The stuff about JKR is mostly online, the vast majority of people don't know or don't care.

The way I read it is this isn't for any of the movie image rights. This is for character rights to the novels. The wording leads me to believe these won't be auto products outside of maybe the artists who illustrate the cards, if even that.
Still a cool license to get but saying "Weasley, Hermione, Harry" and not Emma, Daniel etc tells me this isn't going to be like those incredible Artbox sets.

ETA: Welp disregard. I read the press release in full which is key. It's literally to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the movies.
Cool

[QUOTE=YayNJ;20136324]Pretty sure their 'lame' new site doesn't take a quarter of a year to ship you your cards though.[/QUOTE]

Three months in after creating an account, I'm still blocked from buying/selling on there, so I have no idea if shipping is possible either. What I like about COMC is that I can sell all the Epack junk and only keep the hits. I probably ship maybe 1 out of 1,000 Epack cards home. I don't want any commons. Is there even a single buyer yet on The Authority?

The other thing that might upset *some* of the ePack card collectors is that it appears The Authority is slabbing many of the red flash hits people pull out of packs on ePack that are stored at The Authority.

[IMG]https://imga.theauthority.com/i/C4E/7eec81d3-d05c-11f0-bee3-c6ef0dbdeafe?Type=Front[/IMG]

I haven’t held any of these cards in hand yet, so maybe they are easy to pop out of the case. There is a surprisingly large amount of old school collectors that don’t want to be forced to mess with slabs.

[QUOTE=finfangfan;20136557]The other thing that might upset *some* of the ePack card collectors is that it appears The Authority is slabbing many of the red flash hits people pull out of packs on ePack that are stored at The Authority.

I haven’t held any of these cards in hand yet, so maybe they are easy to pop out of the case. There is a surprisingly large amount of old school collectors that don’t want to be forced to mess with slabs.[/QUOTE]

Ugh - slabs would completely turn me off from future purchases. I have no room or patience to deal with more plastic on cards.

[QUOTE=notoriousrmb;20136561]Ugh - slabs would completely turn me off from future purchases. I have no room or patience to deal with more plastic on cards.[/QUOTE]

Right. I’m not anti-slab, but I am well aware how vocal a lot of Blowout is when people slab nonsports. lol.

Upper deck gets the Harry Potter license
 

Man HP is big- huge fan, prob the 2nd biggest genre I PC- but it comes down to whether they can do any autos. Even Leaf was able to get multiple HP signers in recent years including Ron, Ginny, Neville, Bellatrix, and Voldemort.

*If* they end up getting cast signers, like most of them…I wonder…what happens to the Artbox autos, market-wise? They are always the OG movie-era autos. But it sure helped them being basically the only game in town with HP (besides like the sporadic leaf signers). Only way to get Emma Watson auto for example on a card I’m pretty sure. So it’ll be interesting to see what happens when (if) we start seeing more.

I think HP sketches and PMGs would be cool and I’m looking forward to this.

[QUOTE=DynaEtch;20136583]Even Leaf was able to get multiple HP signers in recent years including Ron, Ginny, Neville, Bellatrix, and Voldemort.
[/QUOTE]
It's a lot easier to get signers when licenses aren't involved. If I were willing to pay, I could probably get any of them to sign for my own unlicensed sets.

There is also a new Harry Potter show scheduled for 2027 on HBO. I wonder if UD’s license will extend to that release with all new cast sometime next year.

Upper deck gets the Harry Potter license
 

[QUOTE=dd316;20136609]It's a lot easier to get signers when licenses aren't involved. If I were willing to pay, I could probably get any of them to sign for my own unlicensed sets.[/QUOTE]

True…I did notice for some Leaf ones they used images of them as characters in the HP costume as well…possibly even taken from the movie. Interesting that can be done without the license. But at the end of the day..still unlicensed.

So this’ll be the only other game in town next to Artbox for licensed auto HP cards…if they do autos. There would definitely be a huge demand.

[QUOTE=DynaEtch;20136623]True…I did notice for some Leaf ones they used images of them as characters in the HP costume as well…possibly even taken from the movie. Interesting that can be done without the license. But at the end of the day..still unlicensed.

So this’ll be the only other game in town next to Artbox for licensed auto HP cards…if they do autos. There would definitely be a huge demand.[/QUOTE]

the Leaf cards are licensed images from press photography, I believe

[QUOTE=Brobocop;20136525]The stuff about JKR is mostly online, the vast majority of people don't know or don't care.[/QUOTE]

I agree but there is a vocal "hatedom" that may or may not cause "fun" depending on what gets released.

Nothing about TCGs but if they attempt one there'll be "controversy."

I'm also looking forward to the original art in Fleer Ultra Harry Potter to see if they're accurate to the existing movies or the upcoming show...

The grief is towards JKR, not the IP, not the characters, not the actors and actresses. It's a non-issue.

Upper deck gets the Harry Potter license
 

[QUOTE=ATLOTP;20136630]the Leaf cards are licensed images from press photography, I believe[/QUOTE]

Guess that would make sense. Could have sworn this was a shot from the movie, Chamber of secrets when Ginny is on the floor of the chamber, but idk I’d have to go back and watch the movie, it’s been awhile.

[url]https://ebay.com/itm/317732984982[/url]

Also the Bellatrix image they use looks like a shot of her in Hallows part 2 when Hermione was polyjuicing as her, but maybe my memory is just hazy. Maybe the images were also just used as press photography.

[QUOTE=ATLOTP;20136630]the Leaf cards are licensed images from press photography, I believe[/QUOTE]

Exactly. I could go on any of the licensing sites and pay for a photo to use.

[url]https://www.gettyimages.com/search/2/image-film?family=creative&phrase=harry%20potter[/url]

Yeah not sure when Batman DC is on third page how people think Harry PMG’s will be some huge needle mover pop just gonna hear “checklist is too big” like that set lol

*Double posted*

Mundungus Fletcher to the moon!

[QUOTE=ThatGuyPal;20137230]Yeah not sure when Batman DC is on third page how people think Harry PMG’s will be some huge needle mover pop just gonna hear “checklist is too big” like that set lol[/QUOTE]

Harry Potter is bigger than Batman. The only thing that might hold this back is Upper Deck doesn't have the Fanatics Machine behind it.

[QUOTE=dd316;20137320]Harry Potter is bigger than Batman. The only thing that might hold this back is Upper Deck doesn't have the Fanatics Machine behind it.[/QUOTE]

It will also be interesting to see checklist and if they do like 5 different Harry Potter and Hermione PMG images or only one of each. There is a significant drop in big dollar interest after those two I would imagine.

Rickman Snape'd do well

[QUOTE=ThatGuyPal;20137230]Yeah not sure when Batman DC is on third page how people think Harry PMG’s will be some huge needle mover pop just gonna hear “checklist is too big” like that set lol[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I have no idea how a global franchise single-era sensation is going to do well. :doh:

I think PMGS work best as a separate insert with a smaller checklist (40-50 cards) rather than a parallel to the base set that sometimes can have a checklist as high as 200 cards. The smaller checklist causes more collectors to try to chase full sets as opposed to a 200 card checklist where collectors tend to just limit themselves to top characters and few would bother for a full 200 card PMG set chock full of randos.

[QUOTE=DynaEtch;20136583]
*If* they end up getting cast signers, like most of them…I wonder…what happens to the Artbox autos, market-wise? They are always the OG movie-era autos. But it sure helped them being basically the only game in town with HP (besides like the sporadic leaf signers). Only way to get Emma Watson auto for example on a card I’m pretty sure. So it’ll be interesting to see what happens when (if) we start seeing more. [/QUOTE]

My question as well. I have a somewhat significant investment in sealed Artbox HP hobby boxes. They don't come up for sale regularly and they were the "only game in town" for autos and screen used props/costumes. I've been accumulating them for 15+ years. Either the UD releases will renew interest in them and drive demand - OR - UD releases will diminish support for the original products by watering down supply.

I love the franchise, but I would rather not have UD making new cards....

[QUOTE=ddearing;20137666]My question as well. I have a somewhat significant investment in sealed Artbox HP hobby boxes. They don't come up for sale regularly and they were the "only game in town" for autos and screen used props/costumes. I've been accumulating them for 15+ years. Either the UD releases will renew interest in them and drive demand - OR - UD releases will diminish support for the original products by watering down supply.

I love the franchise, but I would rather not have UD making new cards....[/QUOTE]

I feel like your boxes will always have demand as they have the kids autos from when they were still kids. You always have to assume actors will sign again in the future but I would think a collector will value the older autos from when actors were younger.

If anything, I think these new releases will bring added awareness to the original Artbox cards.

Almost all of the upper deck stuff will be stickers right? That will help the artbox cards hold their value.

[QUOTE=AngusMacGyver;20137742]Almost all of the upper deck stuff will be stickers right? That will help the artbox cards hold their value.[/QUOTE]

Most likely. And we don’t even know if they will actually get the big actor autos. It could be a PMG set.

BTW… love your user name. One of the best action heroes of all time!

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[QUOTE=finfangfan;20137752]Most likely. And we don’t even know if they will actually get the big actor autos. It could be a PMG set.

BTW… love your user name. One of the best action heroes of all time!

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[QUOTE=finfangfan;20136613]There is also a new Harry Potter show scheduled for 2027 on HBO. I wonder if UD’s license will extend to that release with all new cast sometime next year.[/QUOTE]

If all goes well, the new show will supplant the original movies in popularity and introduce the HP to a new generation. I'm sure it'll make JK very pleased.

[QUOTE=ddearing;20137666]My question as well. I have a somewhat significant investment in sealed Artbox HP hobby boxes. They don't come up for sale regularly and they were the "only game in town" for autos and screen used props/costumes. I've been accumulating them for 15+ years. Either the UD releases will renew interest in them and drive demand - OR - UD releases will diminish support for the original products by watering down supply.

I love the franchise, but I would rather not have UD making new cards....[/QUOTE]

We don't even know what they are doing it yet. But I can see it being a high tide raises all boats sort of thing.

If this is just a rehash of the movies, Artbox will stay king. Like with sports cards, those cards were released alongside the movies. It was a moment in time. If it just gets rehashed, it will be like a Throwback set, or Archives situation. With retired players whose cards sell for less than those from "live" sets each year.

UD might make this an extension of the HP Universe. Cuts from the books. Autos from those that were on that HP Baking show or the Tournament of Houses. Hell, they could even cut up park maps for Universal.

It depends how crazy they want to get.

Upper deck gets the Harry Potter license
 

Maybe I’m in the minority but have no interest in the upcoming show, at all. They have to reboot every franchise apparently, usually to very mixed results at best, often downright bad… why do the same story, which the movies have already wonderfully done. (well the obvious answer is $). Would rather UD keep it to the OG HP otherwise there’s 2 versions of Harry, Hagrid, Snape etc in the same set and just gets confusing.

[QUOTE=DynaEtch;20138177]Maybe I’m in the minority but have no interest in the upcoming show, at all. They have to reboot every franchise apparently, usually to very mixed results at best, often downright bad… why do the same story, which the movies have already wonderfully done. (well the obvious answer is $). Would rather UD keep it to the OG HP otherwise there’s 2 versions of Harry, Hagrid, Snape etc in the same set and just gets confusing.[/QUOTE]

It's been a decade-and-a-half since Deathly Hallows Part 2 was released. Many fans of the books complained that the movies didn't do the books justice. The new show allows for every aspect of the books to be explored and adapted. It'll presumably be a more faithful adaption of JK's vision.

This situation kind of reminds me when they remade the film for Stephen King's It book. The 1990 miniseries was memorable, especially for Tim Curry's performance as Pennywise. But the 2017 film introduced the story to a whole new generation people and was considered a more faithful adaption of the book.

[QUOTE=DynaEtch;20138177]Maybe I’m in the minority but have no interest in the upcoming show, at all. They have to reboot every franchise apparently, usually to very mixed results at best, often downright bad… why do the same story, which the movies have already wonderfully done. (well the obvious answer is $). Would rather UD keep it to the OG HP otherwise there’s 2 versions of Harry, Hagrid, Snape etc in the same set and just gets confusing.[/QUOTE]

I’m cautiously optimistic .

Upper deck gets the Harry Potter license
 

[QUOTE=fabiani12333;20138190]It's been a decade-and-a-half since Deathly Hallows Part 2 was released. Many fans of the books complained that the movies didn't do the books justice. The new show allows for every aspect of the books to be explored and adapted. It'll presumably be a more faithful adaption of JK's vision.

This situation kind of reminds of when they remade the film for Stephen King's It book. The 1990 miniseries was memorable, especially for Tim Curry's performance as Pennywise. But the 2017 film introduced the story to a whole new generation people and was considered a more faithful adaption of the book.[/QUOTE]

Like I said maybe my opinion is in the minority. I just don’t want or care for a reboot of what is basically the same story, when the movies were done so well- from the actors to the visuals to the classic music. We’ve seen it so much with other franchises, and I honestly just don’t have loads of confidence with new films/shows continuing or rebooting older properties (even if I somehow did actively want the new show). I consider examples like modern SW essentially a failed experiment. Jurassic Park, Indiana Jones, etc etc.

So it is what it is. The books are there for the longer story including St Mungo’s, SPEW, Ludo Bagman, or a long drawn out obstacle course fight at the Ministry at the end of Phoenix…film does make artistic decisions to contain a movie and keep a pace, it’s true. I actually prefer the film format to TV show format in general for various reasons, including that- it’s more poetry in a sense to long exposition.

As for new people discovering HP…kids now seem pretty into it from the books and the movies…my young nephew couldn’t be more into them, read all the books, and is now just starting to watch the films and absolutely loves them so far. Never got why new generations can’t be introduced to things after they’re already out. I was born after all the OG Star Wars films and didn’t start getting into them until the 90s when I was old enough…they were awesome and made me a huge fan of SW (and I’m not referring to the special editions, this was before that). Same with older James Bonds. Just because it came out in the past doesnt mean I couldn’t be introduced to it. I think having multiple Harry’s, Hermiones, etc just complicates it all, and not a fan of it. So it’s not for me, and doubt I’ll be watching the new HP show much if at all…but for people excited about it, that’s great. Just not something I’m looking forward to or want.

[QUOTE=AngusMacGyver;20137742]Almost all of the upper deck stuff will be stickers right? That will help the artbox cards hold their value.[/QUOTE]

Why?

None of the James Bond, X-Files etc stuff has been.

[QUOTE=DynaEtch;20138217]Like I said maybe my opinion is in the minority. I just don’t want or care for a reboot of what is basically the same story, when the movies were done so well- from the actors to the visuals to the classic music. We’ve seen it so much with other franchises, and I honestly just don’t have loads of confidence with new films/shows continuing or rebooting older properties (even if I somehow did actively want the new show). I consider examples like modern SW essentially a failed experiment. Jurassic Park, Indiana Jones, etc etc.

So it is what it is. The books are there for the longer story including St Mungo’s, SPEW, Ludo Bagman, or a long drawn out obstacle course fight at the Ministry at the end of Phoenix…film does make artistic decisions to contain a movie and keep a pace, it’s true. I actually prefer the film format to TV show format in general for various reasons, including that- it’s more poetry in a sense to long exposition.

As for new people discovering HP…kids now seem pretty into it from the books and the movies…my young nephew couldn’t be more into them, read all the books, and is now just starting to watch the films and absolutely loves them so far. Never got why new generations can’t be introduced to things after they’re already out. I was born after all the OG Star Wars films and didn’t start getting into them until the 90s when I was old enough…they were awesome and made me a huge fan of SW (and I’m not referring to the special editions, this was before that). Same with older James Bonds. Just because it came out in the past doesnt mean I couldn’t be introduced to it. I think having multiple Harry’s, Hermiones, etc just complicates it all, and not a fan of it. So it’s not for me, and doubt I’ll be watching the new HP show much if at all…but for people excited about it, that’s great. Just not something I’m looking forward to or want.[/QUOTE]

Meh. Its there for those who want it. And can be ignored by those who don't. Gatekeeping "your" version of the books on film is your choice I guess.

I did the same thing with Planet of the Apes. Why is Marky Mark telling me the same story I know? Then they put a twist on it with an actual reboot. And I did like those.

Keaton is "my" Batman for movies. That was a reboot from what Adam West did the generation before. But I still liked Bale Batman. for the generation after me.

Radcliffe took the wand back in 2001. 25 years later, let someone else take a shot.

Any IP not going to Fanatics seems like a win to me.

Upper deck gets the Harry Potter license
 

[QUOTE=Grid;20138529]Meh. Its there for those who want it. And can be ignored by those who don't. Gatekeeping "your" version of the books on film is your choice I guess.

I did the same thing with Planet of the Apes. Why is Marky Mark telling me the same story I know? Then they put a twist on it with an actual reboot. And I did like those.

Keaton is "my" Batman for movies. That was a reboot from what Adam West did the generation before. But I still liked Bale Batman. for the generation after me.

Radcliffe took the wand back in 2001. 25 years later, let someone else take a shot.[/QUOTE]

Gatekeeping is a popular buzzword on forums to retort to almost anything, Im giving an opinion, and you are entitled to yours. I have mine and have no interest in the show and think there’s no need for it. Are they doing the show? Yes. Will I be watching it? Probably not.

I am skeptical of modern film/tv continuations/reboots of popular franchises given the examples listed above and others. Come up with a new story…a new franchise. They did it in 90s/00’s with Harry Potter. There is nothing wrong with a franchise left alone- Back to the Future is fine. The new generation seems to enjoy reading HP books and watching HP movies to this day. $$$ speaks though, and obviously a main reason of doing this.

[QUOTE=Bob Ross;20138532]Any IP not going to Fanatics seems like a win to me.[/QUOTE]

Yeah upper deck getting it means the product will at least be attainable.

[QUOTE=DynaEtch;20138584]I am skeptical of modern film/tv continuations/reboots of popular franchises given the examples listed above and others. Come up with a new story…a new franchise. They did it in 90s/00’s with Harry Potter. There is nothing wrong with a franchise left alone- Back to the Future is fine. The new generation seems to enjoy reading HP books and watching HP movies to this day. $$$ speaks though, and obviously a main reason of doing this.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, very true. Every movie or tv show nowadays seems to be a remake, reboot, prequel, sequel, spinoff, etc. Hollywood seems creatively bankrupt.

It'll be interesting to see if the show is a hit or not. There has already been some online controversy involving it. Either way, Warner Bros is fully committed to having every book adapted, so that means seven seasons (one for each book in the series).

[QUOTE=fabiani12333;20138680]Yeah, very true. Every movie or tv show nowadays seems to be a remake, reboot, prequel, sequel, spinoff, etc. Hollywood seems creatively bankrupt.

It'll be interesting to see if the show is a hit or not. There has already been some online controversy involving it. Either way, Warner Bros is fully committed to having every book adapted, so that means seven seasons (one for each book in the series).[/QUOTE]

WB is in the process of getting bought out by Netflix so that could affect future plans for the HP property. It could also affect future licensing arrangements as Topps has a relationship with Netflix with Stranger Things.

Did I read Upper Deck press release right?? There will be possible movie set(s) for 25th anniversary AND Fleer Ultra with some original art, nice!

If there are PMGs in the movie sets, my guess is PMGs are like the purple/magenta PMGs in Matrix/Marvel sets.

This all sounds like an absolute win for collectors, especially those that are priced out of Artbox.

Now will the first set be planned for June of 26 just to be delayed until 2028?

[QUOTE=oldgoldy97;20140406]Now will the first set be planned for June of 26 just to be delayed until 2028?[/QUOTE]

Maybe they will get one set out by the end of 2026

[QUOTE=DynaEtch;20138217]Like I said maybe my opinion is in the minority. I just don’t want or care for a reboot of what is basically the same story, when the movies were done so well- from the actors to the visuals to the classic music. We’ve seen it so much with other franchises, and I honestly just don’t have loads of confidence with new films/shows continuing or rebooting older properties (even if I somehow did actively want the new show). I consider examples like modern SW essentially a failed experiment. Jurassic Park, Indiana Jones, etc etc.

So it is what it is. The books are there for the longer story including St Mungo’s, SPEW, Ludo Bagman, or a long drawn out obstacle course fight at the Ministry at the end of Phoenix…film does make artistic decisions to contain a movie and keep a pace, it’s true. I actually prefer the film format to TV show format in general for various reasons, including that- it’s more poetry in a sense to long exposition.

As for new people discovering HP…kids now seem pretty into it from the books and the movies…my young nephew couldn’t be more into them, read all the books, and is now just starting to watch the films and absolutely loves them so far. Never got why new generations can’t be introduced to things after they’re already out. I was born after all the OG Star Wars films and didn’t start getting into them until the 90s when I was old enough…they were awesome and made me a huge fan of SW (and I’m not referring to the special editions, this was before that). Same with older James Bonds. Just because it came out in the past doesnt mean I couldn’t be introduced to it. I think having multiple Harry’s, Hermiones, etc just complicates it all, and not a fan of it. So it’s not for me, and doubt I’ll be watching the new HP show much if at all…but for people excited about it, that’s great. Just not something I’m looking forward to or want.[/QUOTE]

I don’t think you’re gatekeeping.

You sound similar to me.

I hope it does well! But am I gonna watch it? Not sure. Maybe? My family and I still are reading the books. We still watch the movies after reading the books. It’s the best. Hard to imagine liking something else as much. But I hope others love it. It just seems that so many kids already love it in its currently accessible forms.

[QUOTE=finfangfan;20138711]WB is in the process of getting bought out by Netflix so that could affect future plans for the HP property. It could also affect future licensing arrangements as Topps has a relationship with Netflix with Stranger Things.[/QUOTE]

That can only effect future licenses. Any licenses already signed before a sale would be good to go. So if Upper Deck, for example, signed a 3-year Harry Potter card license and then Netflix buys WB, Netflix would have to honor the existing 3-year license.

[QUOTE=Rictor;20141204]That can only effect future licenses. Any licenses already signed before a sale would be good to go. So if Upper Deck, for example, signed a 3-year Harry Potter card license and then Netflix buys WB, Netflix would have to honor the existing 3-year license.[/QUOTE]

In my post you quoted I said *future* licenses. You are repeating what I said.

Importantly I don't see anywhere saying this licence is exclusve? (correct me if I am wrong)

[QUOTE=Rictor;20141204]That can only effect future licenses. Any licenses already signed before a sale would be good to go. So if Upper Deck, for example, signed a 3-year Harry Potter card license and then Netflix buys WB, Netflix would have to honor the existing 3-year license.[/QUOTE]

Aren't there often clauses in contracts that allow for existing agreements to void in the event of a company being sold?

Either way, the Netflix-WB deal could take a couple of years to finalize, so the issue might be moot.

[QUOTE=finfangfan;20138711]WB is in the process of getting bought out by Netflix so that could affect future plans for the HP property. It could also affect future licensing arrangements as Topps has a relationship with Netflix with Stranger Things.[/QUOTE]

and UD has a relationship with NF with the Bond movies

I don't understand the logic of Netflix letting Topps be their exclusive trading card licensor. Topps already has Disney properties like Marvel, which directly compete with Warner properties like DC. I know Marvel and DC are currently collaborating on cross-over stories in the comic books, but you risk getting overshadowed by Marvel in the trading card space if you're DC. Sure, UD is more niche than Topps, but at least it has a long history of producing successful non-sports cards and has a myriad of iconic brands and designs to pair cards with.

Plus, Netflix and Disney are directly competing for customers with their streaming platforms -- these companies don't want their IP being grouped together.

I'm surprised Disney didn't throw their hat into the ring to buy Warner Bros. Anti-trust isn't an issue under this administration as long as you grease some palms.

Man Artbox props, autos, relics, wands were the shizzle.

Can they outdo that? Should be available without the dreaded EQL system

[QUOTE=TimBuckTwo;20142416]Man Artbox props, autos, relics, wands were the shizzle.

Can they outdo that? Should be available without the dreaded EQL system[/QUOTE]

The press release mentions epack so should be possible for them to do it.

[QUOTE=TimBuckTwo;20142416]Man Artbox props, autos, relics, wands were the shizzle.

Can they outdo that? Should be available without the dreaded EQL system[/QUOTE]

From experience, it will be near impossible to acquire 2001-2011 "props" (for relic cards) because the materials are long-gone or in permanent collections.

[QUOTE=TimBuckTwo;20142416]Man Artbox props, autos, relics, wands were the shizzle.

Can they outdo that? Should be available without the dreaded EQL system[/QUOTE]

It's seems most here think Pmgs are just as good

[QUOTE=PrinceVegeta;20142772]It's seems most here think Pmgs are just as good[/QUOTE]

I remember a user here swearing up and down that the AEW Upper Deck products with PMGs were one of the surest wax investments you could make. Nobody cares about them anymore since Upper Deck puts them in every set it feels like.