24-25 The Cup is coming
 

Looks like 24-25 The Cup is on its way in early December already. Sell sheet does not blow me away with designs, but does make it seem the UD slab is a one year phenomenon: [url]http://www.blowoutcards.net/images/ss/24udthecupHK.pdf[/url]

Will retail creep over $1k per box this time?

The sellsheet says Look for high quality slabbed hits from top rookies, so the slabs should be back.

The design is in line with what we have seen in the past with The Cup. The product is way above my price level, but I wish the best of luck to anyone opening it.

Missed the slab line, boo.

I don't like how primary the silver coloring is in this, prefer cleaner white in the Cup. Hoping Santa hooks me up with a tin for Christmas nonetheless.

I dove in on23-24 earlier this year and had fun, hit a Kyrou shield and lots of fun stuff, and still lost a lot on it.

The first thing that I always look for is the Limited Logos design and I like this one. Very much reminds me of 2006-07 both with the silver metallic sort of theme and the auto going down the side. Should look even better in person with the foil. Can’t wait to see the checklist

I see it available for preorder in a couple of places, one for the low low price of $8500 per six box case and the other for $4250 for a three boxer. So basically the price at the outset is what 2023-24 climbed too, despite a MUCH shallower rookie class. I get the Celebrini is going nuts, but I think this will be closer to $7000 per six box case, or perhaps even less, by the summer. It won't be as precipitous of a drop as 2023-24 SPA from preorder price, but I just cannot see a universe where it doesn't drop a good amount as the value simply will not be there. Breakers will likely have a tough time too, since PYTs will be too top heavy, Randoms too risky, and hit selects too high.

[QUOTE=rizzeedizzee;20080686]I see it available for preorder in a couple of places, one for the low low price of $8500 per six box case and the other for $4250 for a three boxer. So basically the price at the outset is what 2023-24 climbed too, despite a MUCH shallower rookie class. I get the Celebrini is going nuts, but I think this will be closer to $7000 per six box case, or perhaps even less, by the summer. It won't be as precipitous of a drop as 2023-24 SPA from preorder price, but I just cannot see a universe where it doesn't drop a good amount as the value simply will not be there. Breakers will likely have a tough time too, since PYTs will be too top heavy, Randoms too risky, and hit selects too high.[/QUOTE]

I dunno stat wise they may be better but you rarely hear names outside Bedard. I think it acc hurt other guys as people ignored anyone but him. Sure Celebrini is the top but I still hear people talking/searching for guys like Smith, Michkov, Hutson etc. Leo broke out this year he wasn’t exactly the most sought after during release.

Also to answer the OG question, I think it will be $1000 due to Celebrini and prices upping each year regardless. Next year will be higher it’ll Mckenna right? I know UD gets all the love here but prices been going up year by year if you’re paying attention. People just always convince themselves of a reason “Ovi buybacks!” “ Bedard!” Next year “Mckenna!”

[QUOTE=rizzeedizzee;20080686]I see it available for preorder in a couple of places, one for the low low price of $8500 per six box case and the other for $4250 for a three boxer. So basically the price at the outset is what 2023-24 climbed too, despite a MUCH shallower rookie class. I get the Celebrini is going nuts, but I think this will be closer to $7000 per six box case, or perhaps even less, by the summer. It won't be as precipitous of a drop as 2023-24 SPA from preorder price, but I just cannot see a universe where it doesn't drop a good amount as the value simply will not be there. Breakers will likely have a tough time too, since PYTs will be too top heavy, Randoms too risky, and hit selects too high.[/QUOTE]

These prices are stupid

[QUOTE=ThatGuyPal;20080706]I dunno stat wise they may be better but you rarely hear names outside Bedard. I think it acc hurt other guys as people ignored anyone but him. Sure Celebrini is the top but I still hear people talking/searching for guys like Smith, Michkov, Hutson etc. Leo broke out this year he wasn’t exactly the most sought after during release.[/QUOTE]

There are so many 2023-24 players making an actual NHL impact. Yes, I get that they've had a whole other year to do so, but the issue with 24-25 is there is little to no middle ground guys. It's shaping up to be the most feast or famine rookie class since 2019-20.

[QUOTE=rizzeedizzee;20080727]There are so many 2023-24 players making an actual NHL impact. Yes, I get that they've had a whole other year to do so, but the issue with 24-25 is there is little to no middle ground guys. It's shaping up to be the most feast or famine rookie class since 2019-20.[/QUOTE]

Celebrini, Hutson, Nazar, Cutter, Michkov, Stankoven, Dobes, Will Smith


That's a pretty good class. The cost of the wax is stupid and gambler dependent, but the class is decent.

There’s def guys from this class making an impact beyond Celebrini. Keeping up with the Sharks Will Smith has had a part in a lot of these wins even if Celebrini gets the shine

Crazy it is starting out at $1400/box.

At $1400 a box even Santa may not hook me up.

Wait till next year….26-27 not 25-26

The same retailer at $8400 sold 23-24 presale at $5700.! Crazy increase YTY for a weaker crop, Celebrini aside

This will be an interesting experiment for hockey to push the price to this extreme. Breakers exist in hockey, but not nearly at the same rate as other big 3 sports, will there be enough that will be able to keep this price propped up?

When even I won't open a box of something, you've really gone too far :)

[QUOTE=FatButcher;20082267]This will be an interesting experiment for hockey to push the price to this extreme. Breakers exist in hockey, but not nearly at the same rate as other big 3 sports, will there be enough that will be able to keep this price propped up?

When even I won't open a box of something, you've really gone too far :)[/QUOTE]

There is no chance. This will be a repeat of 23-24 SPA. There were still many who bought boxes and cases and into breaks when it was pushing $450, but it became apparent that the value wasn't there and it dropped. Cup of course is more limited and has lower downside risk, but no way can this be $8500 right out of the gate. I'm saying it again - mark it as closer to $7000 by spring. I wish I could short this!

UD has no reason to drop the price on their highest-end product, this isn’t just your local LCS gouging you more by the year. What happened to the UD is so affordable crowd that was in the President thread? Lmao

Seriously though, may have to start sitting on the sidelines (as I do) if these prices are becoming too high. It isn’t going away, as o said previously what do you think McKenna’s year will cost? Less than this?….doubt it

[QUOTE=ThatGuyPal;20082420]UD has no reason to drop the price on their highest-end product, this isn’t just your local LCS gouging you more by the year. What happened to the UD is so affordable crowd that was in the President thread? Lmao

Seriously though, may have to start sitting on the sidelines (as I do) if these prices are becoming too high. It isn’t going away, as o said previously what do you think McKenna’s year will cost? Less than this?….doubt it[/QUOTE]

This is a good point. It's similar to concert tickets in that artists saw that their tickets would go for 5-10x+ the set price, so eventually they just figured out what they thought was the squeal price and raised it to that. In this case, UD can't be thrilled to have seen 23-24 Cup rise 50% in price within a few months from release. So they figure let's price it with an increase in price already baked in. It will sell at this price, but then it will drop.

I wonder how briskly the 23-24 are selling at that price too. If breakers are finding success fractionalizing even at that price then I guess it could hold up.

There are an incredibly small number of cards you can pull from the Cup to cover the box price, let alone a case. And for 23-24 a lot of those are gone.

[QUOTE=FatButcher;20082717]I wonder how briskly the 23-24 are selling at that price too. If breakers are finding success fractionalizing even at that price then I guess it could hold up.

There are an incredibly small number of cards you can pull from the Cup to cover the box price, let alone a case. And for 23-24 a lot of those are gone.[/QUOTE]

It went from frequent PYTs for 2023-24 the Cup, to team randoms, and then when it rose sky high, to hit selects. The other site we all know has had a team random for 2023-24 Cup at a pretty decent price sitting there for what has to now be nearly a month and it's still barely half filled.

And even Hit Selects stopped, at GP and on WhatNot. It's not due to supply - it was just taking eons to fill them, ala what's happening now with the team random on the large site.

If UD or breakers think people won't recoil at $1400 per box for the Cup from the get go, they will be in for a rude awakening. I'm not saying it will be crickets from day one - release always causes people to have FOMO and for the whales to spend huge. But when folks realize they are taking a bath in terms of ROI, things will come to a grinding halt and the price will drop, ala 2023-24 SPA.

December 3rd release date.

[QUOTE=FatButcher;20080947]At $1400 a box even Santa may not hook me up.[/QUOTE]

Ouch that is insane price even for todays inflation and cup... bleh :eek::eek::confused:

UD and resellers can ask whatever they want for something, and if it sells they will keep it at that price. If it doesn't, they will lower the price or eat the loss. Basic economics. Be patient and/or wait for others to spend their paychecks, then buy the singles they don't want. The only griping is by those who lack patience or the money to pay to play. They could set the box price at $48,000 each and it wouldn't really affect me. The Cup isn't even my favorite set. Decide how important something is then spend (or don't) appropriately.

[QUOTE=stoopid;20088697]UD and resellers can ask whatever they want for something, and if it sells they will keep it at that price. If it doesn't, they will lower the price or eat the loss. Basic economics. Be patient and/or wait for others to spend their paychecks, then buy the singles they don't want. The only griping is by those who lack patience or the money to pay to play. They could set the box price at $48,000 each and it wouldn't really affect me. The Cup isn't even my favorite set. Decide how important something is then spend (or don't) appropriately.[/QUOTE]

Nobody is eating any losses. Unless you mean they’ll just take a little less for it later.

really like the look of Lavish (that Mario is sick!) and the 03-04 Black. Imagine pulling that Gretzky

I would LOVE to tear a box of this sometime but those prices are crazy

Checklist is out:

PDF : [url]https://gogts.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/2024-25-Upper-Deck-The-Cup-NHL-Hockey-Cards-Checklist.pdf[/url]

Excel: [url]https://gogts.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/2024-25-Upper-Deck-The-Cup-NHL-Hockey-Cards-Checklist.xls[/url]

[QUOTE=ThatGuyPal;20089984]Checklist is out:

PDF : [url]https://gogts.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/2024-25-Upper-Deck-The-Cup-NHL-Hockey-Cards-Checklist.pdf[/url]

Excel: [url]https://gogts.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/2024-25-Upper-Deck-The-Cup-NHL-Hockey-Cards-Checklist.xls[/url][/QUOTE]

Nobody wants printing plates, half the product is printing plates. No cut autos?

[QUOTE=kellmuff;20089429]really like the look of Lavish (that Mario is sick!) and the 03-04 Black. Imagine pulling that Gretzky

I would LOVE to tear a box of this sometime but those prices are crazy[/QUOTE]

Per the checklist that Gretzky is actually an auto/glove. This is exactly why you never trust those crappy digital mockups.

Does anyone know if the Celebrini RPA will be game used like Bedard's was?

PYT prices starting to trickle out. Sticker shock to say the least. I wonder if breakers will do SJ by the box to help spread the cost. I was more than happy to grab a six box case of 2022-23 for several thousand dollars less from BO just now. And either others did the same or they had limited quantity, since after I bought it said it's sold out. But they still have three boxers left, or at least they did as I'm typing this.

I've been looking at Cup pricing for several different years, and I can't make any of it make sense. It's the one product that I have no ability to make a case for opening.

That sucks because the cards look amazing for the most part.

Not Cup related, but 24/25 product related, anyone know why SPA is booming? Sealed prices shot up and breaks selling out at least where I gander. Buyer group hoping to corner FWA of Macklin? No other product is moving price wise like that.

[QUOTE=FatButcher;20094998]I've been looking at Cup pricing for several different years, and I can't make any of it make sense. It's the one product that I have no ability to make a case for opening.

That sucks because the cards look amazing for the most part.[/QUOTE]

And the thing is you could likely afford it (atleast cutting out a good portion of the breaks you do since you break most new products. So that says something when it’s not just someone they can’t afford a box being salty, it’s someone who could probably swing it if they really saw the value in the price.

[QUOTE=chris_ac;20095031]Not Cup related, but 24/25 product related, anyone know why SPA is booming? Sealed prices shot up and breaks selling out at least where I gander. Buyer group hoping to corner FWA of Macklin? No other product is moving price wise like that.[/QUOTE]

23/24 is starting to look attractive with the relative prices, that class is starting to blossom

[QUOTE=anusinha;20095063]23/24 is starting to look attractive with the relative prices, that class is starting to blossom[/QUOTE]

100% agree. Far less feast or famine.

[QUOTE=chris_ac;20095031]Not Cup related, but 24/25 product related, anyone know why SPA is booming? Sealed prices shot up and breaks selling out at least where I gander. Buyer group hoping to corner FWA of Macklin? No other product is moving price wise like that.[/QUOTE]

Likely very Celebrini driven, but some of the other names are starting to pop like Cutter, Will Smith and Wallstedt.

Sadly Michkov has looked rough.

[QUOTE=anusinha;20095063]23/24 is starting to look attractive with the relative prices, that class is starting to blossom[/QUOTE]

I've seen on other sites 23/24 The Cup cases about $1k discounted, if you're up for it.

[QUOTE=FatButcher;20095735]I've seen on other sites 23/24 The Cup cases about $1k discounted, if you're up for it.[/QUOTE]

At that price, I feel it's a decent buy and hold. Make no mistake - I still think it's priced too high; however, SOOOOOO much of it has been opened, and if I'm not mistaken there are no redemptions, so just buy and stash. In three to five years when you can't find it anywhere, prices will really rise if the rookies who are thriving this season keep getting better.

What I don't understand is six box cases of 2020-21 The Cup have all but disappeared, and 2021-22 have shot way up, but 2022-23 still is affordable. It must have been opened as much if not more than these other years by breakers, so I cannot figure it out.

[QUOTE=rizzeedizzee;20095961]At that price, I feel it's a decent buy and hold. Make no mistake - I still think it's priced too high; however, SOOOOOO much of it has been opened, and if I'm not mistaken there are no redemptions, so just buy and stash. In three to five years when you can't find it anywhere, prices will really rise if the rookies who are thriving this season keep getting better.

What I don't understand is six box cases of 2020-21 The Cup have all but disappeared, and 2021-22 have shot way up, but 2022-23 still is affordable. It must have been opened as much if not more than these other years by breakers, so I cannot figure it out.[/QUOTE]

I was staring at the 23/24 but still felt like I couldn't pull the trigger.

22/23 is just a super rough rookie class. Some solid players but doesn't yet appear any breakout stars on the way. Sneaky bonus in the product is 2021/22 Spencer Knight updates are packed out in 22/23.

Blame stores for raising up the prices. They want 2x on what they are paying for cup.

[QUOTE=TigerCardsOnly;20092049]Does anyone know if the Celebrini RPA will be game used like Bedard's was?[/QUOTE]

UD bragged about the Bedard before release and haven’t said a word about Celebrini’s so I’m guessing it’s not game worn

I know everyone focuses on rookies but there’s prob still old Cup boxes with amazing say McDavid patch autos or big dual shields. I doubt the Cup ever gets discounted that much due to the potential even with a bad rookie class.

In relation to SPA I think people were naive or ignorant to how much things like the Cup would cost, add in SP being cheaper than Ultimate and Premier and having a bigger overall audience as shields etc are niche and out of most price range and SPA looks very attractive. Felt like the one product this year that had value relation to price, even a case wasn’t terrible. Most cases had atleast one of the bigger names as well so people just likely caught on and started buying. Oh yeah anddddddd it doesn’t release on e-pack so not only are more people driven to buy physical those that wouldn’t even care about e pack prob dropping it way more than stores due to achievements etc have to buy physical. I can’t imagine e-pack whales just completely sit out SP yearly.

Better readable checklist

[url]https://www.beckett.com/news/2024-25-upper-deck-the-cup-hockey-cards/[/url]

[QUOTE=cardozo;20097075]Better readable checklist

[url]https://www.beckett.com/news/2024-25-upper-deck-the-cup-hockey-cards/[/url][/QUOTE]

Thanks for this.

Interesting that Lane Hutson does not have a Shield auto. That would have been a nice non-Celebrini chase.

[QUOTE=FatButcher;20096007]I was staring at the 23/24 but still felt like I couldn't pull the trigger.

22/23 is just a super rough rookie class. Some solid players but doesn't yet appear any breakout stars on the way. Sneaky bonus in the product is 2021/22 Spencer Knight updates are packed out in 22/23.[/QUOTE]

Sure nowwwwww we can judge classes within the past five years XD lol

[QUOTE=FatButcher;20097127]Thanks for this.

Interesting that Lane Hutson does not have a Shield auto. That would have been a nice non-Celebrini chase.[/QUOTE]

Not at all unheard of, even for a /99 rookie. Just from memory I know that Spencer Knight's wasn't in 21-22, Slaf didn't have a true shield in 22-23 (only the Exquisite Collection one), and Fantilli didn't have one in 23-24.

[QUOTE=ThatGuyPal;20096317]... I can’t imagine e-pack whales just completely sit out SP yearly.[/QUOTE]

The kinda dude I envision when I hear 'whales' mentioned in the hobby.

Tbh I got the term “e-pack whales” from here, may of been non-sports section though. People always talk about the “whales” in relation to how much of a product has been opened lol

Of course break spots are filling briskly. Smart breakers are preselling as much as possible since once folks see this opened and how much of a bath they'll take, that might not be as easy to do.

Will Smith making a real case to be a pretty big chase beside Celebrini in this. Sick goal last night, of which he had two

Smith certainly gives a nice secondary chase to the folks getting Sharks in breaks. Lots to like with the young Sharks.

[QUOTE=FatButcher;20099410]Smith certainly gives a nice secondary chase to the folks getting Sharks in breaks. Lots to like with the young Sharks.[/QUOTE]

Breakers praying he was on a different team xD wasn’t even really thinking about team breaks. Already gonna be insane with Celebrini if they want to actually sell spots can’t really boost them much higher based off Smith recent production. Sure they wish he was on the Blue Jackets or something so they could have another team to upsell lol

[url]https://youtu.be/jt3sRtch57g?si=i090ETXW2FD-YEGX[/url]

^Nasty goal if anyone missed

[QUOTE=rizzeedizzee;20098969]Of course break spots are filling briskly. Smart breakers are preselling as much as possible since once folks see this opened and how much of a bath they'll take, that might not be as easy to do.[/QUOTE]

People see it every single year yet breakers can’t ever get their hands on enough of it.

[QUOTE=Inferno;20099630]People see it every single year yet breakers can’t ever get their hands on enough of it.[/QUOTE]

The unfortunate truth.

[QUOTE=Inferno;20099630]People see it every single year yet breakers can’t ever get their hands on enough of it.[/QUOTE]

Never underestimate the power of the lottery mindset, coupled with the convenient overlooking of the reality of the past, to cloud rationality. Let's see how many Cup breaks are instafilling this time next week.

[QUOTE=rizzeedizzee;20099752]Never underestimate the power of the lottery mindset, coupled with the convenient overlooking of the reality of the past, to cloud rationality. Let's see how many Cup breaks are instafilling this time next week.[/QUOTE]

It seems like Cup always fills fast, no matter the value prop.

I was looking at Blackhawks spots, and I know Nazar is considered a good rookie (I'm a little cooler on him), but the prices were silly. Yet they were flying sold out.

[QUOTE=FatButcher;20099795]It seems like Cup always fills fast, no matter the value prop.

I was looking at Blackhawks spots, and I know Nazar is considered a good rookie (I'm a little cooler on him), but the prices were silly. Yet they were flying sold out.[/QUOTE]

It's whales and FOMO. Again, give it one or two weeks. Cup cases will only still be broken by GP and the biggies.

Grant will be breaking the Cup for as long as he wants to for sure :)

[QUOTE=FatButcher;20099862]Grant will be breaking the Cup for as long as he wants to for sure :)[/QUOTE]

Of course. GP's high profile and visibility, as well as their well-publicized history of big pulls, will ensure their breaks keep running. But even there, you can see that they moved from 2023-24 Cup to 2021-22 a couple of months ago. Maybe it was due to them running out of supply, or wanting to stash the 23-24 they still had, but it was curious.

[QUOTE=rizzeedizzee;20099934]Of course. GP's high profile and visibility, as well as their well-publicized history of big pulls, will ensure their breaks keep running. But even there, you can see that they moved from 2023-24 Cup to 2021-22 a couple of months ago. Maybe it was due to them running out of supply, or wanting to stash the 23-24 they still had, but it was curious.[/QUOTE]

I did notice that, 21-22 and he pulled some 16-17 out of mothballs last week. Given the sale on 23-24 that was up last week, I think it must be him stashing.

I just watched GP Sports pull the Sidney Crosby Monumental auto patch book 1/1.

Amazing card.

What a shock lol I love how no one ever questions the most visible breakers always happening to pull great cards. Can’t wait for Zeeree to pull a Celebrini RPA lollll

GP will be breaking for like 10 hours or whatever today and won't hit a bigger card than that most likely.

His reaction was very genuine, and his other boxes were "meh" at best, but that card for him in particular is a wild occurrence.

[QUOTE=race774;20100524]I just watched GP Sports pull the Sidney Crosby Monumental auto patch book 1/1.

Amazing card.[/QUOTE]

It was interesting. And wasn't the case already open before the video started? Just sayin.....

UD will always send loaded boxes to people it wants to. Still remember the “preview” box of 2007 Exquisite FB they sent to Beckett to open that had 3 1/1s including the 2 biggest cards in the set.

[QUOTE=rizzeedizzee;20100593]It was interesting. And wasn't the case already open before the video started? Just sayin.....[/QUOTE]

I just assume they have a CT scanner in the back room of every large card shop and/or breaker bunker. They'd be stupid not to. Welcome to deregulation.

Seems like a really odd feature, welding a secondary grading label to the already encased Upper Deck slab.

It's free if anyone wants to try.

[url]https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-authority-unveils-worlds-first-grading-chip-alongside-upper-decks-202425-the-cup-release-302631898.html[/url]

The Authority™ Unveils World's First Grading Chip™ Alongside Upper Deck's 2024-25 The Cup Release

[QUOTE]For the first time, a collectible can be encapsulated and sold at retail without requiring the case to be broken, and the item re-encapsulated, to add a grade. Starting today, the Authority Grading Chip can be ultrasonically welded to the surface of a pre-existing case, allowing the original case to remain intact.

"Retail collectibles sold in encapsulation cases routinely includes a unique designation such as an Uncirculated designation," said Jeffrey Mullen, CEO of Dynamics Inc. "This designation carries value. If you were to break open the case, you would lose that designation and you would lose that value. With Grading Chip™, you can now grade encapsulated cases without needing to re-encapsulate the collectible. For the collectible, it's a safer way to grade as you don't risk damaging the collectible by re-encapsulating it. For the collector, it is a more valuable way to grade as you don't lose any original collectible designations."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]To celebrate the introduction of Grading Chip™, any collector who submits any Uncirculated slabs to The Authority from either 2023-24 or 2024-25 Upper Deck The Cup will have their Rookie Auto Patch slabbed card graded with Grading Chip™, at no cost. The Authority does not charge for submission or vaulting of Authority Slabs™, so a collector can submit, vault, and grade Authority Uncirculated slabbed The Cup cards at no charge.[/QUOTE]

Backyard pulled both the Ovi 1/1 record inscribed auto as well as the Celebrini shield auto today. Two of the biggest chases gone.

I'm sure breakers will drop spot prices and box prices will drop now, right? Right???? :)

Wild how many encased RPA have been basically one color napkins. Should never happen in this product.

[QUOTE=Grave252;20100804]Backyard pulled both the Ovi 1/1 record inscribed auto as well as the Celebrini shield auto today. Two of the biggest chases gone.[/QUOTE]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha…………

I’m waiting to see someone hit the celebrini themed box.

[QUOTE=FatButcher;20100558]GP will be breaking for like 10 hours or whatever today and won't hit a bigger card than that most likely.

His reaction was very genuine, and his other boxes were "meh" at best, but that card for him in particular is a wild occurrence.[/QUOTE]

Well yeah that would look fishy lol they just gave em the /99 RPA’s of all the best guys in the product instead.

Also I’m not saying it’s some big conspiracy but he wouldn’t have to know exactly what card he’s getting or that it’s loaded. So the reaction could be genuine, doesn’t negate that *for example* UD could send a specific case as the one for “content”. I’ll wear my tin foil hat but I personally doubt all these guys who rip each and every product pay for all of it out of pocket and aren’t sent some off the love lol

[QUOTE=ThatGuyPal;20101094]Well yeah that would look fishy lol they just gave em the /99 RPA’s of all the best guys in the product instead.

Also I’m not saying it’s some big conspiracy but he wouldn’t have to know exactly what card he’s getting or that it’s loaded. So the reaction could be genuine, doesn’t negate that *for example* UD could send a specific case as the one for “content”. I’ll wear my tin foil hat but I personally doubt all these guys who rip each and every product pay for all of it out of pocket and aren’t sent some off the love lol[/QUOTE]

Seems he is in a 5 case break with 3 shield auto's, Celebrini RPA 71/99, Cossa 03-04 1 of 1 and another Celebrini auto /25.

UD may have juiced up more than just the personal today.

I need to get on the UD free love program :)

[QUOTE=rizzeedizzee;20100593]It was interesting. And wasn't the case already open before the video started? Just sayin.....[/QUOTE]

The first 2 boxes were posted on his IG, and the 4 boxes were posted on his youtube.