First Buzz: 2024-25 Topps Chrome basketball cards
 

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Waiting for “No logos are cool unless it’s Leaf” gang

Checklist is missing some rookies...most notably Reed Sheppard. Plus Clingan, Buzelis, Knecht and McCain

[QUOTE=CTSportsboy57;19902166]Checklist is missing some rookies...most notably Reed Sheppard. Plus Clingan, Buzelis, Knecht and McCain[/QUOTE]

Those are all Panini guys. Guess they can't even have base cards?

[QUOTE=Chris P;19902181]Those are all Panini guys. Guess they can't even have base cards?[/QUOTE]

Yeah...i didn't expect the Panini guys to have autos...but a little surprised they don't have base cards.

Third year Wemby pajama rookies?

Let’s gooooooooooooo!!!!!

Topps has more control issues/FOMO issues than both my kids under 10. Just F'ing wait until that license kicks in please and stop with all this non-licensed basketball/football nonsense

I initially thought it was 25-26. Hopes thoroughly dashed.

[QUOTE=CTSportsboy57;19902215]Yeah...i didn't expect the Panini guys to have autos...but a little surprised they don't have base cards.[/QUOTE]

Same story with Amen/Ausar in 2023 TC

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ..... no one cares. Wait until 25/26

[QUOTE=anusinha;19902446]ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ..... no one cares. Wait until 25/26[/QUOTE]

yep topps flagship around here corner with flagg mavs cards

gonna be $800 a box

Topps gonna be worse than Panini design-wise. Everything looks awful.

Despite no license yet I'm still willing to hunt down some singles/autos.

Still gross

I feel like Topps are just going with cheap and nasty until they can do it right.

Horrible stuff so far

Not gonna lie...shocked at the price. Just $149.99 for the hobby box with 2 autos. Very reasonable with a shot at LeBron or Curry autos.

[QUOTE=CTSportsboy57;19903291]Not gonna lie...shocked at the price. Just $149.99 for the hobby box with 2 autos. Very reasonable with a shot at LeBron or Curry autos.[/QUOTE]

That was my thought... this one was finally priced right

[QUOTE=CTSportsboy57;19903291]Not gonna lie...shocked at the price. Just $149.99 for the hobby box with 2 autos. Very reasonable with a shot at LeBron or Curry autos.[/QUOTE]

Look at what the unlicensed Topps Curry autos sell for. Its Lebron or bust.

Can't imagine many lining up to buy unlicensed Topps Chrome for $150 when you can get Prizm hobby for $400 a box. 23-24 Chrome to Prizm is $250 to $850. Paying $150, plus most have to add on tax, for 24-25 Topps Chrome doesn't make sense.

[QUOTE=mossoholic;19903667]Look at what the unlicensed Topps Curry autos sell for. Its Lebron or bust.

Can't imagine many lining up to buy unlicensed Topps Chrome for $150 when you can get Prizm hobby for $400 a box. 23-24 Chrome to Prizm is $250 to $850. Paying $150, plus most have to add on tax, for 24-25 Topps Chrome doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE]

I see lots of Topps Curry autos selling between 400-500 bucks. That more than pays for the box with a single card. I'd be ok with that. What's the best auto you can pull from Prizm right now?

[QUOTE=CTSportsboy57;19903792]I see lots of Topps Curry autos selling between 400-500 bucks. That more than pays for the box with a single card. I'd be ok with that. What's the best auto you can pull from Prizm right now?[/QUOTE]

Curry does have one auto in Prizm. I would definitely prefer that one.

[QUOTE=CTSportsboy57;19903792]I see lots of Topps Curry autos selling between 400-500 bucks. That more than pays for the box with a single card. I'd be ok with that. What's the best auto you can pull from Prizm right now?[/QUOTE]

Curry has a million licensed autos. Why would anyone want an unlicensed one? I see some /25 Topps Curry auto sales as low as barely $300. So which ones are going to be $400-$500 in Topps Chrome? What are your odds of pulling one? Are the odds even 2% per box to pull an auto that barely covers 2-3 boxes?

You don't have to pull a great auto from Prizm to do good on a box. There are a ton of numbered cards that sell well. What Topps Chrome non autos will sell for anything worth mentioning outside of the top cards of the top players /10 or less?

[QUOTE=CTSportsboy57;19903792]I see lots of Topps Curry autos selling between 400-500 bucks. That more than pays for the box with a single card. I'd be ok with that. What's the best auto you can pull from Prizm right now?[/QUOTE]

What percentage of boxes do you think will have a Curry auto?

When does Topps fully take over with the license?


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Feels like Rubin's Leaf'ing these pre-licensed released to not show his cards too early, so to speak.

Anyone who's tried to ACEO their way to Ebay supremacy knows how difficult it is to create a Picasso whilst trying to cloak copyrighted material. Even Qwasian tapped out early and just said f- it...send me the cease n' desist if you dare.

They know this stuff caters to a small niche of clecters/flippers. Why go all out?

[QUOTE=ninjacookies;19904109]Feels like Rubin's Leaf'ing these pre-licensed released to not show his cards too early, so to speak.

Anyone who's tried to ACEO their way to Ebay supremacy knows how difficult it is to create a Picasso whilst trying to cloak copyrighted material. Even Qwasian tapped out early and just said f- it...send me the cease n' desist if you dare.

They know this stuff caters to a small niche of clecters/flippers. Why go all out?[/QUOTE]

You underestimate Fanatics management. They're purely a financial instrument. Short-sighted & numbers driven. They have zero interest in history, heritage, or anything actually traditionally valuable to collectors.

Expect the Fanatics era to be driven by trash AI design, trash hiphop centric culture, trash celebrity collaboration, and of course... even bigger dollar figures

They consolidated the market at its very peak so they'll be doing everything they can to reduce input (AI design? AI marketing? WINNING) and increase output to maximise profit margins with little regard for anything else, especially that which they feel no innate connection to

On the next episode of MTV Cardboard........

[QUOTE=RKH916;19904121]You underestimate Fanatics management. They're purely a financial instrument. Short-sighted & numbers driven. They have zero interest in history, heritage, or anything actually traditionally valuable to collectors.

Expect the Fanatics era to be driven by trash AI design, trash hiphop centric culture, trash celebrity collaboration, and of course... even bigger dollar figures

They consolidated the market at its very peak so they'll be doing everything they can to reduce input (AI design? AI marketing? WINNING) and increase output to maximise profit margins with little regard for anything else, especially that which they feel no innate connection to

On the next episode of MTV Cardboard........[/QUOTE]



I'm not bullish on any of these major card manufacturers. Especially during/post-covid. The money was way too easy, and there's no going back after getting that initial taste.


However, their baseball designs are nowhere near as bad as these. And they've always maintained a semi-uniform look across all sports. We have yet to see what their flagship releases will look like, either.

I don't like the AI stuff, but let's not act like that isn't an existing concern.

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Companies will always take the path of least resistance if the product moves.

Hopefully Fanatics doesn't completely fumble it next year. But it won't bother me much anyways, as I've already had one foot out the door for a minute. Both companies have already set the table for the hyper parallel print era...it is what it is.

I hear you.

I'm pretty much resolved to this being the long term state of the hobby and the continued degradation of the aspects we loved

I pretty much just collect 90's-2010 now

Which sucks as a father, as cards are something I would've loved to enjoy with my son, but I don't want to introduce him to this overpriced, uninspired profiteering degeneracy

A blessing in disguise though, as I'll be forced to direct his interest and abilities into more practical and fulfilling things

[QUOTE=RKH916;19904131]I hear you.

I'm pretty much resolved to this being the long term state of the hobby and the continued degradation of the aspects we loved

I pretty much just collect 90's-2010 now

Which sucks as a father, as cards are something I would've loved to enjoy with my son, but I don't want to introduce him to this overpriced, uninspired profiteering degeneracy

A blessing in disguise though, as I'll be forced to direct his interest and abilities into more practical and fulfilling things[/QUOTE]

I think retail still serves this purpose well. Thanks to the post-Vid market comedown, it's widely available to most and offers people (especially kids) an economical way to satiate the urge.

Hobby's been dumb for years now. I don't know how anyone does it, but bless their hearts. True scarcity is no longer a valid concept. Every 1/1 has 30 separate 1/1's. Just have to find beauty in the ugly, I guess.

[QUOTE=yiguiri2002;19903951]What percentage of boxes do you think will have a Curry auto?[/QUOTE]

Probably a lot less than boxes with a Jamal Shead auto

Can’t wait for retail configs full of base and a refractor “hit” of Joe Smith.

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It’s wild to me that people still think Fanatics is designing cards.

Those are iight.

Personally holding out for the Panoramic Moonroof sigs with Magic Sky Control©. Truly indespensable tech for most AMG owners. Especially in southern climates.

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Oh my goodness -- that is horrible. The Falcons don't even play in an outdoor stadium.

[QUOTE=RKH916;19904131]I hear you.

I'm pretty much resolved to this being the long term state of the hobby and the continued degradation of the aspects we loved

I pretty much just collect 90's-2010 now

Which sucks as a father, as cards are something I would've loved to enjoy with my son, but I don't want to introduce him to this overpriced, uninspired profiteering degeneracy

A blessing in disguise though, as I'll be forced to direct his interest and abilities into more practical and fulfilling things[/QUOTE]

Their target demographic is gamblers. The gamblers only care about the monetary value of cards. For some reason they gamble on sports cards when there are better options. I don't get it, but to each their own. Anyway, that means the things that collectors value -- like quality products -- are not a priority.

Also, blame modern shareholder capitalism, which exploits IP for short-term profits at the expense of long-term investment, sustainability, and growth. Fanatics is just another big corporation pumping out overprice, bland, generic crap for mass consumption. They aren't going to convert a lot of people into long-term collectors, but they'll certainly sell a lot of units in the near term.

[QUOTE=fabiani12333;19906894]Oh my goodness -- that is horrible. The Falcons don't even play in an outdoor stadium.[/QUOTE]

Not to mention the field hash marks are perpendicular to the endzone.


Can't say topps doing much better. Those sky sig backgrounds look like a beginner course in Stable Diffusion prompting.

'fluffy clouds, really nice, cordial, high quality.'


This new AI era is the bane of creative design.

How much would it actually cost to get a human sky and space artist on team.

What was really cool was imperfect illustrators imagining what a perfect tech world would look like. Who would have imagined the reality of programs imagining what a perfect human world looks like.