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CardVault by Tom
[url]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/12/tom-brady-sports-collectibles-company-cardvault.html[/url]
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We have officially jumped the shark...
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Hey if it means more card shops, I am all for it!
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Wow. I went to middle school and high school with the dude who founded CardVault. He's gotta be on cloud nine.
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Dang. By "Tom" I was hoping they meant Tom from Myspace.
It's about time he made a comeback. |
🤮💩🤑💩🤑
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I'm surprised Brady is willing to risk his reputation getting into the card/memorabilia business. We all know how shady/dishonest people can be in this "hobby" but have no fear, with Tom Brady's endorsement I'm sure everything will be on the up and up.
Apart from the shady side of things I think the market will continue to correct for the next few years. Card shops and businesses that popped up during the Covid boom will struggle to continue to rope in unsuspecting victims and convince them to pay for overpriced/watered down products. Of course, if Brady simply sold the rights to use his name and didn't actually invest any money then I'm sure he'll be fine......apart from any blowback he gets if something dishonest happens "under his watch". |
[QUOTE=Tonic3;19815037][B]I'm surprised Brady is willing to risk his reputation getting into the card/memorabilia business[/B]. We all know how shady/dishonest people can be in this "hobby" but have no fear, with Tom Brady's endorsement I'm sure everything will be on the up and up.
Apart from the shady side of things I think the market will continue to correct for the next few years. Card shops and businesses that popped up during the Covid boom will struggle to continue to rope in unsuspecting victims and convince them to pay for overpriced/watered down products. Of course, if Brady simply sold the rights to use his name and didn't actually invest any money then I'm sure he'll be fine......apart from any blowback he gets if something dishonest happens "under his watch".[/QUOTE] He's the football GOAT and a lot of people love him. There's "shady" and "dishonest" people everywhere, not just within the hobby but outside of it (I'm sure there's a ton within the world of football alone). Honestly, he's already been "embarrassed" enough by his relationships (ex-wife, ex-coach)/Netflix roast/etc and likely doesn't give two shits what you/I/most "average" people think anyway. You say "risk" and he says "cha-ching". |
[QUOTE=Tonic3;19815037]I'm surprised Brady is willing to risk his reputation getting into the card/memorabilia business. We all know how shady/dishonest people can be in this "hobby" but have no fear, with Tom Brady's endorsement I'm sure everything will be on the up and up.
Apart from the shady side of things I think the market will continue to correct for the next few years. Card shops and businesses that popped up during the Covid boom will struggle to continue to rope in unsuspecting victims and convince them to pay for overpriced/watered down products. Of course, if Brady simply sold the rights to use his name and [B]didn't actually invest any money then I'm sure he'll be fine[/B]......apart from any blowback he gets if something dishonest happens "under his watch".[/QUOTE] He's a 50% owner. |
[QUOTE=Tonic3;19815037][B]I'm surprised Brady is willing to risk his reputation getting into the card/memorabilia business. [/B]We all know how shady/dishonest people can be in this "hobby" but have no fear, with Tom Brady's endorsement I'm sure everything will be on the up and up.
Apart from the shady side of things I think the market will continue to correct for the next few years. Card shops and businesses that popped up during the Covid boom will struggle to continue to rope in unsuspecting victims and convince them to pay for overpriced/watered down products. Of course, if Brady simply sold the rights to use his name and didn't actually invest any money then I'm sure he'll be fine......apart from any blowback he gets if something dishonest happens "under his watch".[/QUOTE] He had no qualms pumping crypto. |
They need to rebrand IMO. I assumed it was another doofy vault service and not a regular store/dealer.
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[QUOTE=Tonic3;19815037]I'm surprised Brady is willing to risk his reputation getting into the card/memorabilia business. We all know how shady/dishonest people can be in this "hobby" but have no fear, with Tom Brady's endorsement I'm sure everything will be on the up and up.
[/QUOTE] Dishonesty has nothing to do with what line of work you are in. There are good people selling used cars, and there are bad people wearing robes pretending to be priests. There are good people behind bars, and bad people behind the badge. All that to say people are people, and it has nothing to do with the line of work they are in. If Tom Brady is an ethical person, he will run an ethical card shop if its in his control. If Tom Brady is a shady dude that is attempting to rip people off, that means he has most likely always been like that and just hid it well. I think it will be fine and I'm happy to see the hobby continuing to expand. |
[QUOTE=Tonic3;19815037]I'm surprised Brady is willing to risk his reputation getting into the card/memorabilia business. We all know how shady/dishonest people can be in this "hobby" but have no fear, with Tom Brady's endorsement I'm sure everything will be on the up and up.
Apart from the shady side of things I think the market will continue to correct for the next few years. Card shops and businesses that popped up during the Covid boom will struggle to continue to rope in unsuspecting victims and convince them to pay for overpriced/watered down products. Of course, if Brady simply sold the rights to use his name and didn't actually invest any money then I'm sure he'll be fine......apart from any blowback he gets if something dishonest happens "under his watch".[/QUOTE] 99 out of 100 people don’t know who any of these shady people are. Come on now Hell they might be collectors and still don’t know. I barely know as an old man. I didnt know who Backyard Breakers or whatever were until you all told me My kid probably knew. He has no money Brady couldn’t care less |
Better move than that dummy Jeter.
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That picture of him is creepy as hell.
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[QUOTE=Bosoxfan5990;19815046]He's a 50% owner.[/QUOTE]
Is it confirmed he actually invested his own money? You can definitely be an "owner" today without putting anything down. Athletes do it a lot when they open restaurants in their name. They lend their NIL and get a % of equity into the restaurant or a % of the proceeds. |
[QUOTE=Asian62150;19815292]Is it confirmed he actually invested his own money?
You can definitely be an "owner" today without putting anything down. Athletes do it a lot when they open restaurants in their name. They lend their NIL and get a % of equity into the restaurant or a % of the proceeds.[/QUOTE] Article says he “acquired a 50% stake.” |
I’m too lazy to figure out what the bizness model for this is. Anyone got the tl;dr version? Is it different than “LCS” ?
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[QUOTE=Asian62150;19815292]Is it confirmed he actually invested his own money?
You can definitely be an "owner" today without putting anything down. Athletes do it a lot when they open restaurants in their name. They lend their NIL and get a % of equity into the restaurant or a % of the proceeds.[/QUOTE]What difference does that make? How he acquired his equity is irrelevant. Lots of joint owners acquire equity via offering labor, expertise, NIL, and many other ways besides just monetary investment. That said, there is no indication he didn't pay for his stake, nor does it matter. |
[QUOTE=Bosoxfan5990;19815046]He's a 50% owner.[/QUOTE]
I also believe the owner of CardVault previously said Robert Kraft has a stake in the store at Foxborough. |
[QUOTE=Tonic3;19815037]I'm surprised Brady is willing to risk his reputation getting into the card/memorabilia business. We all know how shady/dishonest people can be in this "hobby" but have no fear, with Tom Brady's endorsement I'm sure everything will be on the up and up.
Apart from the shady side of things I think the market will continue to correct for the next few years. Card shops and businesses that popped up during the Covid boom will struggle to continue to rope in unsuspecting victims and convince them to pay for overpriced/watered down products. Of course, if Brady simply sold the rights to use his name and didn't actually invest any money then I'm sure he'll be fine......apart from any blowback he gets if something dishonest happens "under his watch".[/QUOTE] I don't know -- I'm thinking Brady himself might be one of those shady card dealers: [url]https://www.cllct.com/sports-collectibles/autographs/tom-brady-wont-be-in-hall-of-fame-until-2028-but-he-s-already-using-inscription[/url] |
[QUOTE=base set;19815362]I’m too lazy to figure out what the bizness model for this is. Anyone got the tl;dr version? Is it different than “LCS” ?[/QUOTE]
brady brought into a growing chain of stores currently in the NE. |
How much money is enough for these people? Go play golf already.
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[QUOTE=sheetskout;19815823]How much money is enough for these people? Go play golf already.[/QUOTE]
Being rich ain’t cheap. He’s got a lot of bills to pay. |
[QUOTE=MiamiMarlinsFan;19815850]Being rich ain’t cheap. He’s got a lot of bills to pay.[/QUOTE]
*Being rich and divorced* |
[QUOTE=Bosoxfan5990;19815897]*Being rich and divorced*[/QUOTE]
Shouldn't he get alimony since Gisele makes more than him? |
[QUOTE=YouTheManNick;19814985]Dang. By "Tom" I was hoping they meant Tom from Myspace.
It's about time he made a comeback.[/QUOTE] I thought it was going to be Tyler O'Neill. |
[QUOTE=YouTheManNick;19814985]Dang. By "Tom" I was hoping they meant Tom from Myspace.
It's about time he made a comeback.[/QUOTE] Was thinking the same thing, but hasn't he done a ton of things since MySpace. Just absolutely nothing memorable as I cannot source them. |
[QUOTE=Tonic3;19815037]I'm surprised Brady is willing to risk his reputation getting into the card/memorabilia business. We all know how shady/dishonest people can be in this "hobby" but have no fear, with Tom Brady's endorsement I'm sure everything will be on the up and up.
Apart from the shady side of things I think the market will continue to correct for the next few years. Card shops and businesses that popped up during the Covid boom will struggle to continue to rope in unsuspecting victims and convince them to pay for overpriced/watered down products. Of course, if Brady simply sold the rights to use his name and didn't actually invest any money then I'm sure he'll be fine......apart from any blowback he gets if something dishonest happens "under his watch".[/QUOTE] His reputation is that of a cheater who was caught twice by the NFL. Then he became friends with Sam Bankman-Fried for $55 Million and enabled him to do illegal stuff. Moving into sports cards seems like a logical move. |
[QUOTE=Asian62150;19815970]Shouldn't he get alimony since Gisele makes more than him?[/QUOTE]
I don't know how millionaire divorces work. |
[QUOTE=sheetskout;19815823]How much money is enough for these people? Go play golf already.[/QUOTE]
Part of having a lot of money is keeping it out of the hands of the government. If you keep it moving you'll pay less in taxes. |
His Fox contract is reportedly 10yrs/375M, does Giselle really have that kind of ludicrous money?
Good lord, 1 year of that is generational wealth; figure $25M after taxes. OK fine, $20M after having to pay all his handlers. |
I am curious if anyone has stopped into any of his shops as they've been opening up this year. I will be in Chicago later on this month and plan to stop by the one just outside Wrigley. Have a feeling I know what to expect already and it'll be a 10 min stop looking at overpriced flavor of the day "wOw MoJo l@@k", but if nothing else will be interesting to check it out
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[QUOTE=rats60;19816202]His reputation is that of a cheater who was caught twice by the NFL. Then he became friends with Sam Bankman-Fried for $55 Million and enabled him to do illegal stuff. Moving into sports cards seems like a logical move.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hollywood42;19988930]I am curious if anyone has stopped into any of his shops as they've been opening up this year. I will be in Chicago later on this month and plan to stop by the one just outside Wrigley. Have a feeling I know what to expect already and it'll be a 10 min stop looking at overpriced flavor of the day "wOw MoJo l@@k", but if nothing else will be interesting to check it out[/QUOTE]
The one at Patriot Place is butt cheeks. Small, very little inventory. Tons of yelling coming from the back (online breaking, maybe?). |
Trying to make the hobby cool
Most people don’t care or think it’s dumb Just being honest. I love the hobby but most could care less |
[QUOTE=kyle1707;19989035]Trying to make the hobby cool
Most people don’t care or think it’s dumb Just being honest. I love the hobby but most could care less[/QUOTE] Nothing wrong with trying to make trading cards cool. The problem comes with deceptively presenting them as a good way to make money -- whether from gambling on them or investing in them. |
[QUOTE=Hollywood42;19988930]I am curious if anyone has stopped into any of his shops as they've been opening up this year. I will be in Chicago later on this month and plan to stop by the one just outside Wrigley. Have a feeling I know what to expect already and it'll be a 10 min stop looking at overpriced flavor of the day "wOw MoJo l@@k", but if nothing else will be interesting to check it out[/QUOTE]
I went to the Wrigley location when it opened. The prices for unopened wasn’t too far off from market. It’s extremely small and crowded when there’s more than a few people in there. Still a cool little place to check out. |
[QUOTE=csmtampa;19989362]I went to the Wrigley location when it opened. The prices for unopened wasn’t too far off from market. It’s extremely small and crowded when there’s more than a few people in there. Still a cool little place to check out.[/QUOTE]
They had a decent price on some stuff online…cheap enough that I ordered and I’m a huge cheapo who doesn’t buy much unopened anymore. Arrived quickly and in tip top shape. Their other prices were right around market. Took a Quick Look. All their stuff is at market or a bit above market. |
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