2025 Topps Disney Genesis (Disney Debut)
 

[quote][B]Every Card Numbered to /99 or lower!

(1) Pack Per Box. (5) Cards Numbered to 99 or less Per Pack.[/B]

Topps Genesis will debut one of the first-ever card sets to spotlight characters from Disney, Pixar, Marvel, and Lucasfilm all in one collection! Keep your eyes peeled for cards featuring Mickey Mouse, Buzz Lightyear, Spider-Man, Darth Vader, and more! There’s no end to the magic Topps Genesis has in store for this collection, so don’t miss a moment. Fans can find the first drop of these cards available exclusively on Topps.com beginning early January.[/quote]

[URL="https://www.topps.com/pages/topps-disney-genesis"]https://www.topps.com/pages/topps-disney-genesis[/URL]

Anyone buying this product?

[QUOTE=Charismatic44th;19756464]Anyone buying this product?[/QUOTE]

All /99 or less. FOMO will kick in eventually. Ugly ass cards.

I like the design. Here is the link to the checklist

[url]https://www.topps.com/media/pdf/2025Disney_Genesis_Checklist.pdf[/url]

I’ll be buying.
Breakers will go nuts for this product and it’ll dry up quickly

No price...

[QUOTE=CardCollector19;19756516]I’ll be buying.
Breakers will go nuts for this product and it’ll dry up quickly[/QUOTE]

Right… I think it sells out in minutes like Dune.

[QUOTE=PrinceVegeta;19756528]No price...[/QUOTE]

Waaaay too much

[QUOTE=Charismatic44th;19756464]Anyone buying this product?[/QUOTE]

Are you kidding? Instant sellout.

Personally, I'm not a fan of all the brands mixed into a set like this, it really makes no sense. It's like the weird WB set with Lord of the Rings and Bugs Bunny side-by-side.

I’ll look forward to picking up a few character focus singles. These should be easy to find with the way breakers will be blowing through these.

…even though I really don’t need any of these overused for 50 years Star Wars images

The art/images of characters are all over the place
but this will sellout instantly.

Individuals buyers will miss out and breakers will end up with like 5 cases.
Welcome to Fanatics!

I'll try for a box knowing I have zero chance of landing one.

No odds posted but quick math using images and info on Topps.
I'm assuming there are no more parallels other than what is advertised.

1+99+75+50+25+5 = 255 total parallels * 100 base set = 25,500 / 5 = 5,100 total boxes

100 card checklist with 5 cards per box. Assuming there will be /99, /75, /49 or 50, /25, /10, /5, and /1 for each card. Seems like there will be a lot of this?

[QUOTE=PoPCulture;19756610]100 card checklist with 5 cards per box. Assuming there will be /99, /75, /49 or 50, /25, /10, /5, and /1 for each card. Seems like there will be a lot of this?[/QUOTE]

That topps listing page states every card /99 or below and shows /75, /50, /25, /5, /1.

Five cards per pack/box. 5.1k boxes? Unless there's a /10 parallel not shown.

[QUOTE=bub838;19756501]All /99 or less. FOMO will kick in eventually. Ugly ass cards.[/QUOTE]

Haha, I like the look of the cards (reminds me of Topps Black).

FOMO will definitely kick in too.

The art looks like digital screen capture to me.

[QUOTE=greatgradegrate;19756627]That topps listing page states every card /99 or below and shows /75, /50, /25, /5, /1.

Five cards per pack/box. 5.1k boxes? Unless there's a /10 parallel not shown.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. I didn’t see that Topps had posted the parallels. I was just taking a guess and came pretty close haha.

[QUOTE=finfangfan;19756546]Right… I think it sells out in minutes like Dune.[/QUOTE]

If it's $50 like Dune was these won't last a minute.

Does the lack of a price increase the mystery and intrigue?
"I have to check tomorrow at noon to see!"

Or does it create apathy
"If I don't know how much it is I could care less."

[QUOTE=Gidtheson;19757506]Does the lack of a price increase the mystery and intrigue?
"I have to check tomorrow at noon to see!"

Or does it create apathy
"If I don't know how much it is I could care less."[/QUOTE]

It seems to be pretty common with the online drops… including every set that releases on ePack. You don’t know the price until it drops.

[QUOTE=Gidtheson;19757506]Does the lack of a price increase the mystery and intrigue?
"I have to check tomorrow at noon to see!"

Or does it create apathy
"If I don't know how much it is I could care less."[/QUOTE]

No time to actually decide if buying makes sense. Standard fomo strategies

[url]https://www.si.com/collectibles/inside-the-hobby/topps-disney-genesis-a-first-look-at-the-exclusive-trading-card-release[/url]

[B][I]However, collectors should be careful when buying this product. Boxes are not made for those who are looking to add cards to their personal collection. Collectors would be better to buy singles on the secondary market of the characters they want.[/I][/B]

You know it's gotten bad when freakin Sports Illustrated is telling you to buy singles lmao :doh::D

[QUOTE=ThatGuyPal;19757567][url]https://www.si.com/collectibles/inside-the-hobby/topps-disney-genesis-a-first-look-at-the-exclusive-trading-card-release[/url]

[B][I]However, collectors should be careful when buying this product. Boxes are not made for those who are looking to add cards to their personal collection. Collectors would be better to buy singles on the secondary market of the characters they want.[/I][/B]

You know it's gotten bad when freakin Sports Illustrated is telling you to buy singles lmao :doh::D[/QUOTE]

LOL…They also found a way to bash Topps in the very first sentence. The writer is apparently not a fanatics fan…

“The configuration may look familiar to sports cards fans as Topps continues to develop products in a way to create scarcity.“

Looks fun but will probably be botted to death.

My bet is this sells out in minutes and sells VERY WELL on the secondary market.

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[QUOTE=bg17;19757646]My bet is this sells out in minutes and sells VERY WELL on the secondary market.

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I agree.

I like the idea of the set but the card design is awful.

Can’t wait to see what singles prices come out of the gates at. I’m prepared to see /99’s priced at $200 for the first couple of months. Eventually they get down to $10-15 like all of the Chrome /99 parallels do for key characters. (Talking Star Wars specifically) It just sucks to have to wait it out…

[QUOTE=PoPCulture;19757965]Can’t wait to see what singles prices come out of the gates at. I’m prepared to see /99’s priced at $200 for the first couple of months. Eventually they get down to $10-15 like all of the Chrome /99 parallels do for key characters. (Talking Star Wars specifically) It just sucks to have to wait it out…[/QUOTE]

$200 down to $10 after a couple months?

And that's typically how Star Wars stuff goes?

That's pretty wild. As a collector, I'd happily wait 60 days for a 95% discount.

[QUOTE=Asian62150;19758165]$200 down to $10 after a couple months?

And that's typically how Star Wars stuff goes?

That's pretty wild. As a collector, I'd happily wait 60 days for a 95% discount.[/QUOTE]

To be clear, I’m not saying the cards will sell for $200 but I expect to see them priced high just like with every release. Since 2021 I’ve collected Star Wars sets starting about a year after release and have done very well. I don’t consider it a “discount” because I would never pay the overinflated new release prices. Patience with non sports goes a long way these days. See SW Sapphire for a perfect example.

[QUOTE=Asian62150;19758165]$200 down to $10 after a couple months?

And that's typically how Star Wars stuff goes?

That's pretty wild. As a collector, I'd happily wait 60 days for a 95% discount.[/QUOTE]

The dune sets which is very similar to this tells another story

[QUOTE=glassofwater;19758334]The dune sets which is very similar to this tells another story[/QUOTE]

The Dune set is a tenth of the print run of Genesis.

[QUOTE=bub838;19758372]The Dune set is a tenth of the print run of Genesis.[/QUOTE]

Uh… Dune checklist was 10 cards and this checklist is 100 cards. Dune had base to 150 and this one has base to 99.

As a refresher… here’s a link to the Dune thread to see how that one played out in real time… [url]https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1581643[/url]

I got one box of Dune for $50 (4 cards with 3 base /150 and my lower parallel was /20). I slabbed 2 of my base (which were the best characters) and sold all 4 cards for just shy of $700 from a $100ish total outlay.

This set will sell out quickly. Plus, most people will be off from work so the website will likely crash. I wonder what the box limit will be per transaction this time around?

[QUOTE=finfangfan;19758406]Uh… Dune checklist was 10 cards and this checklist is 100 cards. Dune had base to 150 and this one has base to 99.[/QUOTE]


Right, Dune was 500 boxes. This is 5.1k (based off the parallels that were shown).

So instead of a 60 second sellout, maybe this one lasts...a few min?

Probably depends on the price. If these are like $199 I won't even attempt.

I think Dune lasted 3 mins based on the posts in thread linked above. It also depends on transaction limit to some extent. I assume there will be some sort of cap. If they cap it to one per transaction (like Dune) then it could also last a little longer by having that speed bump. And you are right… if pack price is prohibitive it could also slow things down a few minutes as well.

If you think about it.. Dune grossed only $25,000 (500 @ $50) so Topps left a lot of money on the table there. That set probably was initially designed to follow Zerocool’s Dutch Auction model but got modified after Zerocool got absorbed into Topps branding after Josh Luber left. This one today would gross at least $250,000 if the box price remains $50 … so there is a sliver of hope… although unlikely… for a sweet price point for us with this introductory set under the Topps global Disney license.

[QUOTE=finfangfan;19758406]Uh… Dune checklist was 10 cards and this checklist is 100 cards. Dune had base to 150 and this one has base to 99.[/QUOTE]

500/5000=0.1

[QUOTE=bub838;19758480]500/5000=0.1[/QUOTE]

It scales though with 10:1 checklist. So the person who said this set is very similar to Dune is correct even though I took your post as meaning you thought they were incorrect in saying the sets were similar.

There is an additional difference of the highest print run of the highest print parallel card in this set (99) being lower than Dune (150). So I don’t think this sets secondary card values drop dramatically as the person said above and the Dune set comparison is probably more accurate.

At any rate, about 2+ hours until we get locked out of buying any of this anyway… lol.

Anyone else having issues logging into their Topps account?

Both my wife and I it’s telling us incorrect password (even though it’s correct) and when you do a password reset the link in the email brings you to a page that doesn’t exist on topps site.

[QUOTE=CardCollector19;19758542]Anyone else having issues logging into their Topps account?

Both my wife and I it’s telling us incorrect password (even though it’s correct) and when you do a password reset the link in the email brings you to a page that doesn’t exist on topps site.[/QUOTE]

I didn’t have that issue… so not sure what’s up.

2025 Topps Disney Genesis (Disney Debut)
 

[QUOTE=finfangfan;19758486]It scales though with 10:1 checklist. So the person who said this set is very similar to Dune is correct even though I took your post as meaning you thought they were incorrect in saying the sets were similar.

There is an additional difference of the highest print run of the highest print parallel card in this set (99) being lower than Dune (150). So I don’t think this sets secondary card values drop dramatically as the person said above and the Dune set comparison is probably more accurate.

At any rate, about 2+ hours until we get locked out of buying any of this anyway… lol.[/QUOTE]

It all comes down to whether you’re interested in the print run because youre someone investing in boxes (maybe flipping them) or someone buying up singles.

To the sealed box person, you have 5k boxes out there in the ‘universe’ of your collectible. Dune being only 500 boxes should see those sealed boxes being quite scarce. And this print run is a big difference.

To the singles person, finfang’s point is spot on and it washes out.

[QUOTE=DynaEtch;19758576]It all comes down to whether you’re interested in the print run because youre someone investing in boxes (maybe flipping them) or someone buying up singles.

To the sealed box person, you have 5k boxes out there in the ‘universe’ of your collectible. Dune being only 500 boxes should see those sealed boxes being quite scarce. And this print run is a big difference.

To the singles person, finfang’s point is spot on and it washes out.[/QUOTE]

Demand ALWAYS trumps Scarcity

The Dune thing was weird, still seems mostly contrived nonsense to me and NOT organic at all

Timing was the X factor, Flipping was the Y

I was a huge fan of the Dune product (and still own a few boxes), but am also interested in Disney. Wouldn’t it be fair to say that the fan base/interest in Dune is also 10% or less than the fan base of Disney/Marvel/Star Wars?

[QUOTE=nextlevel10;19758583]I was a huge fan of the Dune product (and still own a few boxes), but am also interested in Disney. Wouldn’t it be fair to say that the fan base/interest in Dune is also 10% or less than the fan base of Disney/Marvel/Star Wars?[/QUOTE]

1% would probably be more accurate

With packs being 5 cards … I wonder if they will be allocated one per property: SW, Pixar, Disney, Marvel Comics, and Marvel Cinematic Universe? Or if the properties will be unequally allocated among boxes?

I could see people collecting this multiple ways… Many might just go for the 20 card subset of specific interest.

2025 Topps Disney Genesis (Disney Debut)
 

[QUOTE=PumpnDumpling;19758581]Demand ALWAYS trumps Scarcity

The Dune thing was weird, still seems mostly contrived nonsense to me and NOT organic at all

Timing was the X factor, Flipping was the Y[/QUOTE]

Absolutely. I don’t mean to imply even from a sealed box perspective Dune’s will be more valuable in the long run. Just that it’s probably going to be scarcer. If after years, there are 150 sealed Dune boxes out there and 1500 Disney Genesis boxes, if Disney is 25x more demanded, it can certainly be a good deal more valuable.

No [pre]live links, yet,...correct...? Only..."Coming Soon"....?

What's the guesstimate as to SRP....?

TIA

[QUOTE=finfangfan;19758586]With packs being 5 cards … I wonder if they will be allocated one per property: SW, Pixar, Disney, Marvel Comics, and Marvel Cinematic Universe? Or if the properties will be unequally allocated among boxes?[/QUOTE]

Prbly random me thinks, doubt they are putting much effort into this

$100/box

$999/case

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went live about 20 seconds early, currently on the spinning wheel of death

[QUOTE=anusinha;19758602]went live about 20 seconds early, currently on the spinning wheel of death[/QUOTE]

same thought i had it

Clicked add to cart a couple times with no luck. Cases were immediately sold out, link if anyone wants it: [url]https://www.topps.com/products/2025-topps-disney-genesis.html[/url]

Cases were gone < minute? Unable to add single boxes spinning wheel.

Gave up after about 60 or so seconds. Refused to have my intelligence insulted any longer.

[QUOTE=phil;19758609]Cases were gone < minute? Unable to add single boxes spinning wheel.[/QUOTE]

You - Working. Atlanta - Working. Topps - Error

Cases sold out… website conked out on me when opening cart.

anyone get a case? i feel like i was 2 sec too late

Fun times.

Looks like boxes gone… oh well.

$100
had one in my cart and the site crashed

I'll never cry about not having a chance to spend money, but damn, this hobby really sucks for people who just want to buy product to rip and keep.

I don't think cases lasted more than 5 seconds, if that. I got "Error" nearly immediately. Botting starting off 2025 strong.

[QUOTE=Brobocop;19758621]I'll never cry about not having a chance to spend money, but damn, this hobby really sucks for people who just want to buy product to rip and keep.[/QUOTE]

This. 100%
Just wanted a box or two to open with the wife

Start 2025 with fun at Topps!

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So not 1 person in here hit a single box?

All went to breakers and distributors
Guaranteed

So how quickly do boxes go to $500? $700?

$1k per case was an incredible price too. Those that got are going to make out like bandits

Our Fanatics overlords are making this hobby so much fun

Nothingburger here.

Why is this not lottery based. Moving on

[QUOTE=PrinceVegeta;19758634]Why is this not lottery based. Moving on[/QUOTE]

Exactly. They have gone lottery in the last couple months with certain products

total joke by fanatics - i guess marvel is done now. all the breakers will be on fanatics live for $400 a box next week. website crash and instant sell out.

Whatever, hope people spend out the nose to get into breaks and then quickly undercut one another to make something back to pay off their credit card which is probably maxed out.