Has anyone noticed that the price of autographs rising!
 

Not sure if it’s clueless eBay sellers or sellers that want to pay their mortgage by selling autographs but to me it seems like asking prices on autographs on eBay are out of control! Particularly those in PSA/Beckett Slabs. Anyone else notice this?

They’re just riding the whims of the market.


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what kind of riding?

Riding up and chaffing?


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Gotta pay to play

Those cards ain’t gonna sign themselves!

Just saw the typo “riding” instead of “rising” (I just edited the title)

Ebay is a museum, not a place to sell product.

Which players are you referring to?

I've noticed the sealioning on here is rising lately for sure

[QUOTE=Crosby 87;19748515]I've noticed the sealioning on here is rising lately for sure[/QUOTE]

No no no! Dont start again. You’ve been good for awhile. (After I reported your behavior to the moderators) The moderators have been notified about you constantly harassing me on all of my posts, so just stop it already.

[QUOTE=livealoha;19748518]No no no! Dont start again. You’ve been good for awhile. (After I reported your behavior to the moderators) The moderators have been notified about you constantly harassing me on all of my posts, so just stop it already.[/QUOTE]

Here's your original post for clarity . Which you have since edited. I hope you have a good night and a wonderful holiday week.

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[QUOTE=Crosby 87;19748561]Here's your original post for clarity . Which you have since edited. I hope you have a good night and a wonderful holiday week.

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The clarity is that you have already been reported to the moderators before (and yes, im sure they are watching your behavior since you’ve been reported previously by me) and I won’t hesitate to report You again to the moderators if you keep it up. It’s very simple, Im asking you to Leave me alone.

[QUOTE=livealoha;19748439]Not sure if it’s clueless eBay sellers or sellers that want to pay their mortgage by selling autographs but to me it seems like asking prices on autographs on eBay are out of control! Particularly those in PSA/Beckett Slabs. Anyone else notice this?[/QUOTE]

Are the sale prices increasing?

[QUOTE=JWBlue;19748576]Are the sale prices increasing?[/QUOTE]

Hello and thanks for your response. It’s not the final sales price (completed sales) that is increasing but I’m noticing it’s the buy it now prices seem very high.(higher than normal)

In regards to what cards im referring to. It’s signed PSA Topps cards in general that I search for on eBay that I noticed buy it now prices are higher (maybe because of the holiday season perhaps?)

askin' aint gettin'!

[QUOTE=Tom Oates;19748591]askin' aint gettin'![/QUOTE]

Very true! But the problem with high asking prices is that it’s hard to make an offer on an item because the seller wants close to the asking price!(most times) to be honest, I have had a couple sellers accept really low offers! Then I ask, why set the price so high if your accepting for example $40 cheaper than the listed price?

[QUOTE=livealoha;19748611]Very true! But the problem with high asking prices is that it’s hard to make an offer on an item because the seller wants close to the asking price!(most times) to be honest, I have had a couple sellers accept really low offers! Then I ask, why set the price so high if your accepting for example $40 cheaper than the listed price?[/QUOTE]

They are fishing for a higher price than what most are willing to play. That is why it is always a good idea to make a reasonable offer for a card that is grossly overpriced with OBO. Most of the time they will not accept. 10% of the time they will.

[QUOTE=JWBlue;19748648]They are fishing for a higher price than what most are willing to play. That is why it is always a good idea to make a reasonable offer for a card that is grossly overpriced with OBO. Most of the time they will not accept. 10% of the time they will.[/QUOTE]
You are absolutely right. Most of the time they don’t accept my offers but a few times, to my surprise the sellers accepted my offers!

Thank you for helping me figure this question out. It has to be because sellers are fishing for a higher price like you mentioned. Thank you again. I appreciate your help.

I list some cards high to get watchers on them, then once I get enough watching, I begin gradually begin sending offers until someone accepts. I just sold one this morning at double the amount of the initial offers that I was receiving. If we're talking about rare cards, and unless you need the money, I don't know why people don't do this instead of running auctions.

[QUOTE=livealoha;19748611]Very true! But the problem with high asking prices is that it’s hard to make an offer on an item because the seller wants close to the asking price!(most times) to be honest, I have had a couple sellers accept really low offers! Then I ask, why set the price so high if your accepting for example $40 cheaper than the listed price?[/QUOTE]

Manipulation. You think you got a "deal" by getting $40 off but really are just paying comps and the high-asking price achieved exactly what it was supposed to, and sold before similar priced cards. It's the same as when I sold sealed wax on marketplaces and figured I'd be fair and charge less than other and also make quicker sales....people lowballed anyway. As soon as I put prices same as everyone else and just accepted lowballs at the price they were before, they sold and quickly lol people love the illusion of a deal.

[QUOTE=ThatGuyPal;19748752]Manipulation. You think you got a "deal" by getting $40 off but really are just paying comps and the high-asking price achieved exactly what it was supposed to, and sold before similar priced cards. It's the same as when I sold sealed wax on marketplaces and figured I'd be fair and charge less than other and also make quicker sales....people lowballed anyway. As soon as I put prices same as everyone else and just accepted lowballs at the price they were before, they sold and quickly lol people love the illusion of a deal.[/QUOTE]

Oldest marketing trick in the book (high markup, offer a huge "discount"). Same reason why almost all grocery stores offer a BOGO offer vs 50% off everything: people think buying 1 and getting one "free" is a better deal than buying 2 items for 50% off, even though the bottom line price under both offers is exactly the same. Human psychology is something else.

[QUOTE=livealoha;19748570]The clarity is that you have already been reported to the moderators before (and yes, im sure they are watching your behavior since you’ve been reported previously by me) and I won’t hesitate to report You again to the moderators if you keep it up. It’s very simple, Im asking you to Leave me alone.[/QUOTE]

:doh:

[QUOTE=livealoha;19748439]Not sure if it’s clueless eBay sellers or sellers that want to pay their mortgage by selling autographs but to me it seems like asking prices on autographs on eBay are out of control! Particularly those in PSA/Beckett Slabs. Anyone else notice this?[/QUOTE]

If you like eBay pricing, you're gonna LOVE pricing at The National when it pops back up...

Some signers have 15 different categories of products they'll sign, all different prices... And don't forget extra for inscriptions... And then to get them authenticated...

My favorite is Joe Montana, he even has a line for stuff signed by Tom Brady :flex:

[QUOTE=livealoha;19748611]Very true! But the problem with high asking prices is that it’s hard to make an offer on an item because the seller wants close to the asking price!(most times) to be honest, I have had a couple sellers accept really low offers! Then I ask, why set the price so high if your accepting for example $40 cheaper than the listed price?[/QUOTE]

Sometimes I see a card that I feel is overpriced so I'll simply add it to my watch list. About 25% of the time, I'll get an offer at a reduced price within a week. I think some people start high and hope to be pleasantly surprised. Personally, I look at active and completed auctions and set my price a little under market value so I can hopefully get a quick sale and list something else. This is how I make the most of my 250 free listings per month.

[QUOTE=Crosby 87;19748515]I've noticed the sealioning on here is rising lately for sure[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=livealoha;19748518]No no no! Dont start again. You’ve been good for awhile. (After I reported your behavior to the moderators) The moderators have been notified about you constantly harassing me on all of my posts, so just stop it already.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Crosby 87;19748561]Here's your original post for clarity . Which you have since edited. I hope you have a good night and a wonderful holiday week.

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[QUOTE=livealoha;19748570]The clarity is that you have already been reported to the moderators before (and yes, im sure they are watching your behavior since you’ve been reported previously by me) and I won’t hesitate to report You again to the moderators if you keep it up. It’s very simple, Im asking you to Leave me alone.[/QUOTE]

Topic of the thread be damned, I'm interested in this sub-plot line

The ultra-modern collectors are trying to push their techniques of price manipulation in the vintage market. Vintage cards are not that scarce, so you need to make scarcity. The way in the past was high graded cards. Now people like Geoff Wilson are saying signed vintage cards are the best investments since they are more scarce. The hobby is one big game and where there is an opportunity to drive up prices, there will be a person like our hobby hero to tell you what is worth money. ;)

[QUOTE=LCM1223;19749290]Topic of the thread be damned, I'm interested in this sub-plot line[/QUOTE]

OP is a character.

Some people aren't cut out for the internet.

Lots of hopeful BIN prices at Christmas time. Lots of low-priced auctions as well. The volume of aftermarket certified autos has greatly increased over the last couple of years and it has moved from a very fringe part of the hobby to at least one most are familiar with. I avoid them as I think the authentication is worthless, but they aren't going away.

[QUOTE=jduds;19749625]Lots of hopeful BIN prices at Christmas time. Lots of low-priced auctions as well. The volume of aftermarket certified autos has greatly increased over the last couple of years and it has moved from a very fringe part of the hobby to at least one most are familiar with. I avoid them as I think the authentication is worthless, but they aren't going away.[/QUOTE]

My personal opinion on this is that during Covid SO MANY people got in to through the mail autograph collecting and then once the boom died down a lot tried to sell them and realized they weren't going to bring anything unless authenticated by one of the big 3.

[QUOTE=livealoha;19748570]The clarity is that you have already been reported to the moderators before (and yes, im sure they are watching your behavior since you’ve been reported previously by me) and I won’t hesitate to report You again to the moderators if you keep it up. It’s very simple, Im asking you to Leave me alone.[/QUOTE]

So in lesss stupid words, you got busted .

[QUOTE=discodanman45;19749357]The ultra-modern collectors are trying to push their techniques of price manipulation …. ;)[/QUOTE]

Like making posts trying to pimp your other posts then when busted, erase and then play snitch victim?

[QUOTE=discodanman45;19749357]The ultra-modern collectors are trying to push their techniques of price manipulation in the vintage market. Vintage cards are not that scarce, so you need to make scarcity. The way in the past was high graded cards. Now people like Geoff Wilson are saying signed vintage cards are the best investments since they are more scarce. The hobby is one big game and where there is an opportunity to drive up prices, there will be a person like our hobby hero to tell you what is worth money. ;)[/QUOTE]

Draw the “vintage” line wherever you want, but there are vintage cards that are VERY scarce. There are 3 variations of the 1960 Pepper Martin back - I’m a buyer for all of you have them