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2024 NFL MVP Odds
I believe these just dropped today.
1. Mahomes +475 2. Stroud +850 t3. Allen/Burrow +900 t5. Love/Jackson +1400 7. Hurts +1500 t8. Purdy/Rodgers +1600 10. Prescott +1700 Who are you putting money on? Full list below (via Fox Sports) [url]https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/2024-25-nfl-odds-mvp-favorites[/url] |
[QUOTE=kluke84;19553087]I believe these just dropped today.
1. Mahomes +475 2. Stroud +850 t3. Allen/Burrow +900 t5. Love/Jackson +1400 7. Hurts +1500 t8. Purdy/Rodgers +1600 10. Prescott +1700 Who are you putting money on? Full list below (via Fox Sports) [url]https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/2024-25-nfl-odds-mvp-favorites[/url][/QUOTE] Mahomes or Burrow if healthy. Last year was a down year for MVP (QB award) |
[QUOTE=Siberian13;19553096]Mahomes or Burrow if healthy. Last year was a down year for MVP (QB award)[/QUOTE]Last year was a down year for offense, not MVP. Jackson deserved it.
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[QUOTE=starfox;19553108]Last year was a down year for offense, not MVP. Jackson deserved it.
Sent from my SM-S926U using Tapatalk[/QUOTE] He should have won offensive player of the year. The one for RBs :)! He’s one dimensional come playoff time. Everyone knows it. How valuable can you be when you’re a liability in the playoffs? |
CMC at +4000, highest non qb.
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[QUOTE=kluke84;19553087]I believe these just dropped today.
1. Mahomes +475 2. Stroud +850 t3. Allen/Burrow +900 t5. Love/Jackson +1400 7. Hurts +1500 t8. Purdy/Rodgers +1600 10. Prescott +1700 Who are you putting money on? Full list below (via Fox Sports) [url]https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/2024-25-nfl-odds-mvp-favorites[/url][/QUOTE] Stroud is way too high. |
Vikings shock ev1 and win division. JJ, after a down year due to multiple injuries, goes for over 2000 yards and 15+ TD's. Darnold has a big year but nobody is voting for him due to his past, and thus JJ wins MVP. What are his odds? I don't bet on sports but perhaps worth a flier?
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Mahomes but Purdy at +1600 seems like good value.
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[QUOTE=Siberian13;19553130]He should have won offensive player of the year. The one for RBs :)! He’s one dimensional come playoff time. Everyone knows it. How valuable can you be when you’re a liability in the playoffs?[/QUOTE]He definitely played below average that game, but the OC should share blame for not running the ball. Plus, don't forget how Flowers fumbled it away at the 1. Nevertheless, he has to play better. He's running out of excuses; so is everyone else.
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[QUOTE=starfox;19553161]He definitely played below average that game, but the OC should share blame for not running the ball. Plus, don't forget how Flowers fumbled it away at the 1. Nevertheless, he has to play better. He's running out of excuses; so is everyone else.
Sent from my SM-S926U using Tapatalk[/QUOTE] Do you think he can improve his passing at this point? That’s his biggest issue. |
I like Allen at +900 as good value
Seems like people are counting them out without Diggs (and others). I personally think he’ll put up the same numbers and he’ll get even more of the credit. |
[QUOTE=Derekbauer;19553372]I like Allen at +900 as good value
Seems like people are counting them out without Diggs (and others). I personally think he’ll put up the same numbers and he’ll get even more of the credit.[/QUOTE] So 22 turnovers again? |
[QUOTE=Siberian13;19553767]So 22 turnovers again?[/QUOTE]
44 tds |
[QUOTE=Siberian13;19553767]So 22 turnovers again?[/QUOTE]
Don't underestimate the #MarquezValdes-Scantling Effect. [QUOTE=MVS]"I helped Aaron win a couple MVPs. I helped Pat win MVP, a couple Super Bowls. My resume speaks for itself, too. Ain’t a one-way thing, man. I put up some big numbers with these guys. Made some big plays for these guys. It all works out on both ends. And it’s not a fluke. It’s happened everywhere.” [/QUOTE] |
[QUOTE=tclausen;19553155]Vikings shock ev1 and win division. JJ, after a down year due to multiple injuries, goes for over 2000 yards and 15+ TD's. Darnold has a big year but nobody is voting for him due to his past, and thus JJ wins MVP. What are his odds? I don't bet on sports but perhaps worth a flier?[/QUOTE]
Make it so. |
Goff must be in there, too.
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Based on odds and schedules.. I would probably go Burrow.
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Allen and Burrow
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Interesting Burrow already had 3 votes. Even before the injury, he was having a very un-Burrow season last year. And with the freak injury to his throwing hand/wrist. That's the one I would be least likely to lay money down on.
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I'd take Allen over him, but think he bounces back nicely
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Herbert easy.
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[QUOTE=Braswell10;19554331]Herbert easy.[/QUOTE]
Who is he throwing to? Josh Palmer? Quintez? The Rookie? I think we all assume Roman and Harbaugh are going to be run heavy. |
I could see Goff being good value at +2200. He’s got as good a collection of weapons as anyone, and his passing numbers hold up pretty well against some of the league’s best over his 2 years in Detroit. He doesn’t run so it’s probably unlikely, but I could see a scenario where Detroit is the top seed and he gets some consideration.
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[QUOTE=Imnottheonly;19563777]I could see Goff being good value at +2200. He’s got as good a collection of weapons as anyone, and his passing numbers hold up pretty well against some of the league’s best over his 2 years in Detroit. He doesn’t run so it’s probably unlikely, but I could see a scenario where Detroit is the top seed and he gets some consideration.[/QUOTE]
He has to get a bunch of their rushing tds to be passing tds to have any chance. |
[QUOTE=Imnottheonly;19563777]I could see Goff being good value at +2200. He’s got as good a collection of weapons as anyone, and his passing numbers hold up pretty well against some of the league’s best over his 2 years in Detroit. He doesn’t run so it’s probably unlikely, but I could see a scenario where Detroit is the top seed and he gets some consideration.[/QUOTE]
Interesting stat that would pertain to Goff's chances: Of the last 22 MVP awards given out, only 1 has gone to a player not on the team that had drafted him, and that way Peyton Manning in 2013. Goff will have to overcome the "he's not good enough" stigma to win the award. He's going to have to convince people that he really is a top 2 or so QB and not just being carried by his team |
I think Dak Prescott in a contract year is great value at +1700.
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Just like in cards the answer is Mahomes. Everything else is just wasting money.
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[QUOTE=tjforce;19564227]Interesting stat that would pertain to Goff's chances:
Of the last 22 MVP awards given out, only 1 has gone to a player not on the team that had drafted him, and that way Peyton Manning in 2013. Goff will have to overcome the "he's not good enough" stigma to win the award. He's going to have to convince people that he really is a top 2 or so QB and not just being carried by his team[/QUOTE] Yeah, but that stat gets junked really fast. 5 of those 22 went to Peyton Manning. 4 To Aaron Rodgers & 3 to Tom Brady. 3 guys alone accounted for more than half of all MVP awards. 2 of them are retired, and the 3rd might as well be. So you'd have to remove that from the equation. Go past the 22, and you'll get Rich Gannon, Marshall Faulk, Brett Favre and Steve Young. All winning it on teams that didnt draft them. So from 1992 to 2002, the timeline you didnt post. 7 of the 10 were on teams other then their drafted ones. |
You don't have to remove anything from the equation just because of who won it and their retirement status. It's a trend of the last 20+ years. And yeah things change if you stretch it back further. And if you go back EVEN FURTHER, you'll find even fewer players not on the team who drafted them to win the award.
In fact, prior to 1992, only YA Tittle ('63), Earl Morral ('68) and kicker Mark Mossley in the strike-shortened '82 season were the only players NOT on their drafted team to win MVP (unless you want to squabble over Elway being drafted by the Colts). This obviously changed with free agency. |
[QUOTE=Grid;19566376]Yeah, but that stat gets junked really fast. [B][U]5 of those 22 went to Peyton Manning. 4 To Aaron Rodgers & 3 to Tom Brady. 3 guys alone accounted for more than half of all MVP awards. [/U][/B]
2 of them are retired, and the 3rd might as well be. So you'd have to remove that from the equation. Go past the 22, and you'll get Rich Gannon, Marshall Faulk, Brett Favre and Steve Young. All winning it on teams that didnt draft them. So from 1992 to 2002, the timeline you didnt post. 7 of the 10 were on teams other then their drafted ones.[/QUOTE] Or another way to put this is that the last 11 MVPs have all been with the team that drafted them. |
any updated odds?
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[QUOTE=Siberian13;19554357]Who is he throwing to? Josh Palmer? Quintez? The Rookie? I think we all assume Roman and Harbaugh are going to be run heavy.[/QUOTE]
I think the recieving group won’t be as bad as anticipated. McConkey and Palmer will both have good seasons IMO. Herbert may not have 5000 yards, but he could get his TDs and keep the INTs low. The running game should help him from having to force it so much. |
[QUOTE=tjforce;19566544]Or another way to put this is that the last 11 MVPs have all been with the team that drafted them.[/QUOTE]
Nope. Counting backwards, the 11th on the list was Manning with the Broncos. Of the other 10, You only have 6 players. Rodgers X2, Mahomes X 2, Lamar X2, Brady, Ryan and Cam. If you want to say 6 of the last MVP's since 2013 were all on the team that drafted them at the time. That is correct. But now your pattern is getting smaller and smaller. But it is no surprise, that MVP level players get resigned by their own teams and stick around for a long time. |
On Draftkings, Jalen Hurts is +1500. If I recall correctly, he opened at +2000. I believe he is still good value at +1500.
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I know he won't win, but I think Drake London is going to go off this year.
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[QUOTE=Floridacardguy;19566986]I know he won't win, but I think Drake London is going to go off this year.[/QUOTE]
It would be nice to see an accurate qb again. Ridder still throwing interceptions on screen passes in training camp. Would like to see what Pitts, London and Bijan really are. Will be interesting. |
[QUOTE=Siberian13;19567111]It would be nice to see an accurate qb again. Ridder still throwing interceptions on screen passes in training camp. Would like to see what Pitts, London and Bijan really are. Will be interesting.[/QUOTE]
This should be a powerful offense and put up a lot of points, my only complaint is that they should have drafted Rome Odunze instead of Penix. |
[QUOTE=Grid;19566797]Nope. Counting backwards, the 11th on the list was Manning with the Broncos.
Of the other 10, You only have 6 players. Rodgers X2, Mahomes X 2, Lamar X2, Brady, Ryan and Cam. If you want to say 6 of the last MVP's since 2013 were all on the team that drafted them at the time. That is correct. But now your pattern is getting smaller and smaller. But it is no surprise, that MVP level players get resigned by their own teams and stick around for a long time.[/QUOTE] I was ignoring Manning since he won with the Colts previously, but sure, 6 in a row and 11 of the last 12... with one guy repeating. Anyways... why the heck are we spinner our wheels so much on Jared Goff? |
[QUOTE=TheHeel;19566805]On Draftkings, Jalen Hurts is +1500. If I recall correctly, he opened at +2000. I believe he is still good value at +1500.[/QUOTE]
system qb |
[QUOTE=boxbuster7;19567275]system qb[/QUOTE]
That system almost got him an MVP 2 years ago until he hurt his shoulder and Mahomes finished strong. The real question is does the system still work the same without Jason Kelce, Shane Steichen, and Jonathan Gannon? |
[QUOTE=tjforce;19567297]That system almost got him an MVP 2 years ago until he hurt his shoulder and Mahomes finished strong.
The real question is does the system still work the same without Jason Kelce, Shane Steichen, and Jonathan Gannon?[/QUOTE] I'd put money on Purdy to win mvp before I put money on Hurts to |
[QUOTE=Fenway55;19564333]I think Dak Prescott in a contract year is great value at +1700.[/QUOTE]
That’s a good one too. He was 2nd in voting last year and 2nd in QBR |
[QUOTE=tjforce;19567258]I was ignoring Manning since he won with the Colts previously, but sure, 6 in a row and 11 of the last 12... with one guy repeating.
Anyways... why the heck are we spinner our wheels so much on Jared Goff?[/QUOTE]Because Goff has 59 touchdowns to 19 intereceptions over the last two years with 2 playoff wins. The Lions got tougher last year; barring significant injury, they should make a deep run in 2024, possibly win it all. Laugh all you want; we can come back to the records (these comments) in December. Sent from my SM-S926U using Tapatalk |
[QUOTE=Siberian13;19567570]That’s a good one too. He was 2nd in voting last year and 2nd in QBR[/QUOTE]Jerry has done Dak no favors for 2024. This team refusing to put the finishing touches on the cake (Ala the Eagles getting AJ Brown and Haason Reddick while he was there, and Ala the 49ers getting McCaffrey, Trent Williams, and even guys that were just ok for them like Chase Young and Randy Gregory) to position themselves to win a SB. The Cowboys will win about 10 games, bow out in the first round, and Dak will get 90% of the blame. This is what happens when the GM won't be fired because he's also the owner.
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Bumping this. Allen is now +250 overtaking Mahomes as favorite
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I'll still take Mahomes
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[QUOTE=Derekbauer;19553372]I like Allen at +900 as good value
Seems like people are counting them out without Diggs (and others). I personally think he’ll put up the same numbers and he’ll get even more of the credit.[/QUOTE] Wish I would’ve listened to myself and laid something. |
[QUOTE=starfox;19567724]Because Goff has 59 touchdowns to 19 intereceptions over the last two years with 2 playoff wins. The Lions got tougher last year; barring significant injury, they should make a deep run in 2024, possibly win it all. Laugh all you want; we can come back to the records (these comments) in December.
Sent from my SM-S926U using Tapatalk[/QUOTE] Goff has been ok, the player who has kept the Lions competing at 2-1 is A. Hutchinson. Detroit in 3 games have 8 sacks & Hutchinson has 6.5 of them. The amount of pressure he puts on the OL is tremendous but he will not win MVP, has a great opportunity as the DPOY ! |
[QUOTE=kluke84;19553087]I believe these just dropped today.
1. Mahomes +475 2. Stroud +850 t3. Allen/Burrow +900 t5. Love/Jackson +1400 7. Hurts +1500 t8. Purdy/Rodgers +1600 10. Prescott +1700 Who are you putting money on? Full list below (via Fox Sports) [url]https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/2024-25-nfl-odds-mvp-favorites[/url][/QUOTE] After week 3 1. Allen +200 2. Mahomes +300 3. Stroud +1100 4. Lamar +1500 5. Rodgers/Hurts +1700 6. Burrow +2000 7. Murray +2200 8. Dak/Brock +2500 9. Darnold +3000 10. Stafford +4000 |
[QUOTE=rms13;19637487]After week 3
1. Allen +200 2. Mahomes +300 3. Stroud +1100 4. Lamar +1500 5. Rodgers/Hurts +1700 6. Burrow +2000 7. Murray +2200 8. Dak/Brock +2500 9. Darnold +3000 10. Stafford +4000[/QUOTE] I bet we see Daniels sneak in to the top 10 in the next few days |
josh Allen if it ended right now
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[QUOTE=majestik101;19637002]I'll still take Mahomes[/QUOTE]
yeah you always take mahomes every year, I'm sure it works out great |
I just placed a bet on Burrow at 35-1. I feel like he always starts slow but I could see that offense start to put up some big numbers.
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Kirk Cousins forces his way into the MVP conversation per Mike Florio - [url]https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/kirk-cousins-forces-his-way-into-the-mvp-conversation[/url]
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[QUOTE=jplarson;19650530]Kirk Cousins forces his way into the MVP conversation per Mike Florio - [url]https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/kirk-cousins-forces-his-way-into-the-mvp-conversation[/url][/QUOTE]
You had me til “per Mike Florio”. |
Mike Florio is an ignoranus
You may as well say "per Dan Orlovsky" |
[QUOTE=jplarson;19650530]Kirk Cousins forces his way into the MVP conversation per Mike Florio - [url]https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/kirk-cousins-forces-his-way-into-the-mvp-conversation[/url][/QUOTE]
Mike Florio forces his way into talking about the NFL when no one wants him around the NFL. Florio needs a clear bag from a sporting goods store. |
[QUOTE=majestik101;19650738]Mike Florio is an ignoranus
You may as well say "per Dan Orlovsky"[/QUOTE] Absolutely rekt. Orlovsky and Barstoolies inhabit the same eighth circle of take hell in my book. |
Hey, I agree with Florio here... Kirk Cousins should be in the conversation.
Along with about 25 other guys because it's only week 5 and we have the vast majority of the football season to play. Remember, a year ago at this time it was "Tua's to lose!" |
[QUOTE=majestik101;19650738]Mike Florio is an ignoranus
You may as well say "per Dan Orlovsky"[/QUOTE] My fingers are burning typing this, but Baker has looked really good. I think to this point, he belongs in the conversation, although the Bucs record and the couple mistakes Baker made hurt him. To me, it was clearly Josh Allen up till this past week. Cousins creeping up and dare I say Sam Darnold?? That is a shocker. Also, Jayden Daniels- 82% completion % wow |
The MVP award, er QB award? There is a player who is on track to do something major that nobody has ever done in the NFL in its entire history. Longshot, yes, but Derrick Henry is on track for his 2nd season with 2,000 yards.
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[QUOTE=Above the Rim;19651217]The MVP award, er QB award? There is a player who is on track to do something major that nobody has ever done in the NFL in its entire history. Longshot, yes, but Derrick Henry is on track for his 2nd season with 2,000 yards.[/QUOTE]
Good point, but outside of him, no NON-QB is doing anything really noteworthy. |
[QUOTE=Floridacardguy;19651165]My fingers are burning typing this, but Baker has looked really good. I think to this point, he belongs in the conversation, although the Bucs record and the couple mistakes Baker made hurt him.
To me, it was clearly Josh Allen up till this past week. Cousins creeping up and dare I say Sam Darnold?? That is a shocker. Also, Jayden Daniels- 82% completion % wow[/QUOTE] You almost did it. Almost :cry: |
[QUOTE=Above the Rim;19651217]The MVP award, er QB award? There is a player who is on track to do something major that nobody has ever done in the NFL in its entire history. Longshot, yes, but Derrick Henry is on track for his 2nd season with 2,000 yards.[/QUOTE]
if CMC couldn't win it last year then no way Derrick Henry win it this year, plain and simple |
[QUOTE=Delta5;19651253]if CMC couldn't win it last year then no way Derrick Henry win it this year, plain and simple[/QUOTE]
Yeah he has some miles on him, it may show up later in the season |
[QUOTE=Siberian13;19651229]You almost did it. Almost :cry:[/QUOTE]
Almost did what? |
[QUOTE=Floridacardguy;19651267]Almost did what?[/QUOTE]
Sibs commented that you gave Baker Mayfield a compliment but by qualifying it with the Bucs record and a few mistakes that Baker committed it became more of a backhanded compliment or an "almost compliment". |
[QUOTE=jplarson;19651280]Sibs commented that you gave Baker Mayfield a compliment but by qualifying it with the Bucs record and a few mistakes that Baker committed it became more of a backhanded compliment or an "almost compliment".[/QUOTE]
Well how often does someone on a 500 team get the MVP? Just keeping it real |
[QUOTE=Floridacardguy;19651283]Well how often does someone on a 500 team get the MVP? Just keeping it real[/QUOTE]
You aren't getting any argument from me on that front. Just helping translate ;) |
[QUOTE=Floridacardguy;19651283]Well how often does someone on a 500 team get the MVP? Just keeping it real[/QUOTE]
Its week 5. Also has greater than .500 win oct which again no one throws out on week 5. It's not hard to admit you were wrong. Just once. I'll give you a.Kyle Trask for free |
2024 NFL MVP Odds
Lamar Jackson!
Get him at +1000 while you can! Likelys foot was millimeter from being 3-1 and Lamar leading the mvp race. At seasons end I think he wins his 3rd mvp in 5 years! Thank me later! Outside Lamar if i had to taking flyer on anyone else Stroud +1000 or Jayden Daniels +5000 seem like great value |
[QUOTE=cardsharkk;19651364]Lamar Jackson!
Get him at +1000 while you can! Likelys foot was millimeter from being 4-1 and Lamar leading the race. At seasons end I think he wins his 3rd mvp in 5 years! Thank me later! Outside Lamar if i had to taking flyer on anyone else Stroud +1000 or Jayden Daniels +5000 seem like great value[/QUOTE] Voter fatigue is a real thing, you really think Lamar will get it with just this kind of stats? While being on a .500 team? Highly doubtful. and foot was milimeter from being 3-1 (not 4-1 duh) is a stretch when they still need to convert their 2pts (which is 50% at best). So yeah, just because he looked good last game vs bills doesnt mean he will win it. Not a good pick for +1000 |
2024 NFL MVP Odds
[QUOTE=Delta5;19651380]Voter fatigue is a real thing, you really think Lamar will get it with just this kind of stats? While being on a .500 team? Highly doubtful. and foot was milimeter from being 3-1 (not 4-1 duh) is a stretch when they still need to convert their 2pts (which is 50% at best). So yeah, just because he looked good last game vs bills doesnt mean he will win it. Not a good pick for +1000[/QUOTE]
I’ve been on Lamar‘s MVP since he was 0-2 and +1500…. he’s been arguably the most dominant quarterback in football in the regular season for years now. He won the MVP last year and has a better team and looks hungrier and better than ever. Not surprised he shot up to +1000… And if he beats the Bengals will probably be about +500… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
[QUOTE=Delta5;19651380]Voter fatigue is a real thing, you really think Lamar will get it with just this kind of stats? While being on a .500 team? Highly doubtful. and foot was milimeter from being 3-1 (not 4-1 duh) is a stretch when they still need to convert their 2pts (which is 50% at best). So yeah, just because he looked good last game vs bills doesnt mean he will win it. Not a good pick for +1000[/QUOTE]
All about projecting going forward… Not what’s already happened imo Lamar will be well above 500 by the time MVP voting comes around barring injury of course. Josh Allen was 3-0, but faced three of the weakest teams in the NFL: the cardinals, jags, and dolphins who lost tua that game. Once he faced a decent team they got crushed and exposed. Mahomes is undefeated, but hasn’t looked Mahomes like and just lost his best receiver going forward… We will have to wait another three months to see how plays out but I think Lamar has as good shot as anyone to win and take over the next 3 months Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
[QUOTE=kluke84;19651351]Its week 5.
Also has greater than .500 win oct which again no one throws out on week 5. It's not hard to admit you were wrong. Just once. I'll give you a.Kyle Trask for free[/QUOTE] Come on don't be salty, don't get your panties in a bunch. I pointed out the good and I pointed out the bad. Baker got outplayed by a rookie QB on the road getting his first win in Baker's stadium. That could alone kill his MVP fantasy. SHHHHH- (if you want the cold hard truth) |
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