Jackson Holliday
 

Called up for debut tonight against the Red Sox! Maybe in Series 2, very lucky and addition to Update instead though. Hope he tears it up.

2024 Update and Update Sapphire just got a big boost.

[QUOTE=cbeauch87;19398482]2024 Update and Update Sapphire just got a big boost.[/QUOTE]

Update Sapphire Holliday sounds scrumptious! :cool:

Can we beg Fanatics to go back to numbered refractors and xfractors for TCU???? Pleeeeeeease?


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I actually enjoy when prospects come up early but late enough to actually limit the amount of rookie cards.

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I'm very excited to see his debut

Destroyed AAA in a SSS. He looks like the real deal.

The comp is....nobody. Can't think of one. Maybe A-Rod?

i am a fan!

[QUOTE=JWBlue;19398768]Destroyed AAA in a SSS. He looks like the real deal.

The comp is....nobody. Can't think of one. Maybe A-Rod?[/QUOTE]

Craziest thing is that his brother Evan is expected to be even better than he is. Quite the baseball legacy Matt has built.

Ryan Spilborghs and Cory Sullivan (both former Rockies and team mates of Matt) do play by play for Rockies games and tell stories about babysitting Jackson during their playing days. It's good listening.

ok AB. get the jitters outta the way

He's horrible.

Yeah!

Or is he already done?

TJ bound?

Cards seem reasonably priced.

BUST .. overrated

Guy doesn’t even have a career hit, biggest bust of all time?

[QUOTE=corockies;19398908]Craziest thing is that his brother Evan is expected to be even better than he is. Quite the baseball legacy Matt has built.

Ryan Spilborghs and Cory Sullivan (both former Rockies and team mates of Matt) do play by play for Rockies games and tell stories about babysitting Jackson during their playing days. It's good listening.[/QUOTE]

Ethan Holliday. Whose Leaf & Panini USA autos are already selling pretty well :eek:

RBI!!!!!!!!!!!!

Topps NOW!

Have to admit, I have never seen the number 1 highlight be a weak ground out to second. Are we over hyping this kid just a smidge?

Topps jacked up the prices on the Topps now cards. Instead of $89.99 for 20 cards, it $129.99. Talk about greed! I bet print run suffers. That's ridiculous. $6.50 per card!

He'll be awesome, but sell to me at cents on the dollar ;)

Jackson Holliday
 

[QUOTE=ctcardexchange;19400742]Topps jacked up the prices on the Topps now cards. Instead of $89.99 for 20 cards, it $129.99. Talk about greed! I bet print run suffers. That's ridiculous. $6.50 per card![/QUOTE]


Wow they really did bump up the price for his first card.But we live in the world of degenerate gamblers print run won’t suffer.Everybody is looking to get the Chase cards on this one.


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[QUOTE=splitrockgamer;19399795]Have to admit, I have never seen the number 1 highlight be a weak ground out to second. Are we over hyping this kid just a smidge?[/QUOTE]


Overhype a prospect who just came up and many are heavily invested in? I’ve never seen that before

Oh I know, I know… but HE’S different


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[QUOTE=corockies;19398908]Craziest thing is that his brother Evan is expected to be even better than he is. Quite the baseball legacy Matt has built.

Ryan Spilborghs and Cory Sullivan (both former Rockies and team mates of Matt) do play by play for Rockies games and tell stories about babysitting Jackson during their playing days. It's good listening.[/QUOTE]

The guy who was DFA'd to bring up Jackson Holliday played college ball at Vanderbilt. His hitting coach? Josh Holliday (Matt's brother and Jackson's uncle). Kemp tweeted about seeing Jackson hit when he was *5* lol. Full circle.

He blows...

[QUOTE=JWBlue;19401138]He blows...[/QUOTE]

So far …. Hopefully he’s young enough, so he has time to make some adjustments and get a better result :coffee:

600 for a base auto, if hes 10 times more expensive than lazaro montes/carson williams/emmanuel rodriguez, i expect more like papa wyatt

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[QUOTE=noaskiecards;19401207]600 for a base auto, if hes 10 times more expensive than lazaro montes/[B]carson williams[/B]/emmanuel rodriguez, i expect more like papa wyatt

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Glad people are at least seeing how good Carson Williams could be.
But thats crazy. I own no cards of him but $600 for a base auto!
When Carson Williams is like $100.

Hope he does good but i think we will have a weird case with this like with the yankees a few years ago.
When everybody was chasing Jasson Dominguez and paying insane prices for break spots and his cards. All while Volpe was selling for nothing then Volpe became the chase.
Cause there is this rookie in Baltimore right now named Colton Cowser that people should be paying more attention to imo.

[QUOTE=mrchipz;19401261]
Cause there is this rookie in Baltimore right now named Colton Cowser that people should be paying more attention to imo.[/QUOTE]

Thing is he’s 24 ….thru Investor eyes, might as well be 74 :coffee:

[QUOTE=JWBlue;19401138]He blows...[/QUOTE]

We're doing this 2 games in lol?

[QUOTE=JRX;19401454]We're doing this 2 games in lol?[/QUOTE]

Fantasy team rage drop.....

This kid is special - I can feel it in my gut ( always right / intuition / subconscious mind stuff )

[QUOTE=mrchipz;19401261]Glad people are at least seeing how good Carson Williams could be.
But thats crazy. I own no cards of him but $600 for a base auto!
When Carson Williams is like $100.

Hope he does good but i think we will have a weird case with this like with the yankees a few years ago.
When everybody was chasing Jasson Dominguez and paying insane prices for break spots and his cards. All while Volpe was selling for nothing then Volpe became the chase.
Cause there is this rookie in Baltimore right now named Colton Cowser that people should be paying more attention to imo.[/QUOTE]

Cowser was really bad last year, and he is 24.

Its been two games for Holliday...

[QUOTE=Braswell10;19401656]Cowser was really bad last year, and he is 24.

Its been two games for Holliday...[/QUOTE]

He only had like 60 at bats last year so cant be really bad in that amount of time.
He just turned 24 2 weeks ago lol, when did 24 become old??

I am not saying Holliday wont be good i hope he is and do think he will be.

[QUOTE=mrchipz;19401712]
He just turned 24 2 weeks ago lol, when did 24 become old??

[/QUOTE]

When Collectors/Investors realized that if a Player can’t make it to the Show by 22, and preferably sooner ( like Holliday ), the chances of them becoming a ‘Hobby Good’ success are astronomically against them

[QUOTE=mrchipz;19401712]He only had like 60 at bats last year so cant be really bad in that amount of time.
He just turned 24 2 weeks ago lol, when did 24 become old??

I am not saying Holliday wont be good i hope he is and do think he will be.[/QUOTE]

You just said people should look at another player besides Holliday, but Holliday has only had 7 ABs. Cowser hit .115 in 60 ABs….

24 isn’t old, but it’s 4 years older than 20.

[QUOTE=Braswell10;19402275]You just said people should look at another player besides Holliday, but Holliday has only had 7 ABs. Cowser hit .115 in 60 ABs….

24 isn’t old, but it’s 4 years older than 20.[/QUOTE]

Calling it now, Holliday has 85 HR in the show by the time he’s 24.

[QUOTE=cardsin47;19401733]When Collectors/Investors realized that if a Player can’t make it to the Show by 22, and preferably sooner ( like Holliday ), the chances of them becoming a ‘Hobby Good’ success are astronomically against them[/QUOTE]

Not hobby good but collector cheap!

[QUOTE=IronCladLou;19402440]Not hobby good but collector cheap![/QUOTE]

All depends on what you’re looking for ~~ quality or quantity! ( I’m interested in the former )

Has already misplayed multiple popups and looks completely lost at the plate. Obviously, it's only 11 PA so not time to panic but he could be further away than initially thought.

[QUOTE=Absknicks;19402904]Has already misplayed multiple popups and looks completely lost at the plate. Obviously, it's only 11 PA so not time to panic but he could be further away than initially thought.[/QUOTE]

Move him up. Let him lead off. Can't be any worse.

[QUOTE=Absknicks;19402904]Has already misplayed multiple popups and looks completely lost at the plate. Obviously, it's only 11 PA so not time to panic but he could be further away than initially thought.[/QUOTE]

Reminds me of Pete Crow-Armstrong last season. Didn't play much... couldn't get a hit and made a couple defensive mistakes. Had a couple defensive gems too.

14 ABs 0 hits 3 runs scored

Makes we wonder if having Matt as a dad is baked into the hype. If his last name were Willis or Dontenot I don’t think there would have been the build up. He would have been able to truly develop in the minors before being called up so fast. Sometimes I think teams screw up this kind of thing. I think he will be ok long term, but you never know what this sort of struggle does to young players.


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Nice story in the Washington Post this morning about how the O’s let him wear his preferred #7 - Cal Sr.’s number - by talking it over with Cal Jr. on Thursday morning. Is free on Apple News for the next 6-12 hours.

Story notes that it took Cal Jr. till his 4th game to get a hit and went 3-for-32 to start his career.

Possibly bad mojo taking 7.

The decision was made to call him up / it’s done. He’s just got to work thru the typical adjustment period to hit in The Show. The level of pitching he’s facing now is a different animal ….

i wonder if he will have a SP in Series 2

Mateo starting today.

lets not panic, he doesnt even have any Rookie Cards out yet!

[QUOTE=cardsin47;19403242]The decision was made to call him up / it’s done. He’s just got to work thru the typical adjustment period to hit in The Show. The level of pitching he’s facing now is a different animal ….[/QUOTE]


Wait, wait, wait…
You mean these ultra, can’t miss, sure fire Bowman 1st Top Prospects who have amazing BC autos and who are top 5 studs based on minor league pitching and the “eye tests” of advanced scouts, actually struggle??? lol
Of course they do. It’s part of it.


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Funny reading some of these posts. Reminds me of the Bobby Witt thread. I’m sure Holliday will be just fine and some of these posts will not age well.

[QUOTE=Skipscards;19403704]Funny reading some of these posts. Reminds me of the Bobby Witt thread. I’m sure Holliday will be just fine and some of these posts will not age well.[/QUOTE]


Even the best prospects bust at a high rate in MLB. If you're counting on them all to turn out to be great MLB players, you're going to end up wrong way more often than not.

In the short term I think Holliday's MLB production will be underwhelming. Not a great base stealer and has below average power at the moment. He should grow into the power and hopefully develops better instincts on the basepaths but all the eye popping stuff that gets the casuals' blood pumping is lagging a bit in his game right now.

This is what happens when people “invest” near $1000 for base chrome autos before players even get to the majors. Ask Fatty fans.

Blame Mike Trout on this one.

I must have missed something, his career is already over? Has bal dfa him yet?

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He'll be fine. Buy the dip ;)

[QUOTE=hermanotarjeta;19403749]This is what happens when people “invest” near $1000 for base chrome autos before players even get to the majors. Ask Fatty fans.

Blame Mike Trout on this one.[/QUOTE]

I blame all the clowns that came to the "hobby" and left in 2020/2021

[QUOTE=JRX;19403768]I must have missed something, his career is already over? Has bal dfa him yet?

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yea, im getting dressed for the funeral right now

[QUOTE=hermanotarjeta;19403749]This is what happens when people “invest” near $1000 for base chrome autos before players even get to the majors. Ask Fatty fans.

Blame Mike Trout on this one.[/QUOTE]

Fatty AKA Guerrero- FYI

[QUOTE=ThoseBackPages;19403435]lets not panic, he doesnt even have any Rookie Cards out yet![/QUOTE]

But he does have "1st Bowman Chrome" autos people paid for as if they are buying a card of a +125 WAR player.

Dude has played in exactly 3 MLB games and hasn’t even started puberty yet. Some of yall are in the wrong hobby

[QUOTE=WhacksPacks;19403835]Dude has played in exactly 3 MLB games and hasn’t even started puberty yet. Some of yall are in the wrong hobby[/QUOTE]

Spot on!

He'll be fine. He'll get that first hit and then he'll start raking

[QUOTE=boxbuster7;19403785]I blame all the clowns that came to the "hobby" and left in 2020/2021[/QUOTE]

They really showed what the law of diminishing returns is all about!

I'm rooting for him, but I'm also still rooting for Gavin Lux

[QUOTE=WhacksPacks;19403835]Dude has played in exactly 3 MLB games and hasn’t even started puberty yet. Some of yall are in the [B]wrong hobby[/B][/QUOTE]

There is the problem. This has gone from a hobby to an money making industry.

I would assume 1 Jackson Holiday collector for every 100 "investors".

[QUOTE=speedyjg13;19403797]But he does have "1st Bowman Chrome" autos people paid for as if they are buying a card of a +125 WAR player.[/QUOTE]

yea, thats crazy. i like minor league cards too, but i dont like to spend too much on them

[QUOTE=speedyjg13;19403977]There is the problem. This has gone from a hobby to an money making industry.

I would assume 1 Jackson Holiday collector for every 100 "investors".[/QUOTE]

How could you be a collector without serious $$$? The prices are insane!

[QUOTE=nowiamsad;19404061]How could you be a collector without serious $$$? The prices are insane![/QUOTE]

one can, but they have to know their roll in the hobby

want to collect minor leaguers? Buy Bowman, not Chrome

On one hand I believe he will be fine, on the other hand if I'm up big already I'm selling now and trying to buy back in a few weeks from now.

If you believe in Holliday long term the best possible thing is him struggling this year to present another buying window. His prices have been high for the last 18 months, a little correction is welcome.

[QUOTE=ThoseBackPages;19404064]one can, but they have to know their roll in the hobby

want to collect minor leaguers? Buy Bowman, not Chrome[/QUOTE]

Want to collect minor leaguers? Buy Pro Debut and Heritage Minor Leagues.

Want to buy minor leaguers in photoshopped MLB jerseys, buy the Bowman products

Bowman 1sts are prospect cards as per the checklist.

[QUOTE=whitmm;19404077]Want to collect minor leaguers? Buy Pro Debut and Heritage Minor Leagues.

Want to buy minor leaguers in photoshopped MLB jerseys, buy the Bowman products[/QUOTE]

thats facts!

[QUOTE=Bcr;19404095]Bowman 1sts are prospect cards as per the checklist.[/QUOTE]

correct, they are inserts

[QUOTE=speedyjg13;19403977]There is the problem. This has gone from a hobby to an money making industry.

I would assume 1 Jackson Holiday collector for every 100 "investors".[/QUOTE]

We are in junk wax Era 2. The collectors will have their laugh soon. Hang In there. But what do I know I still read the backs of all my cards.

Can’t wait for s2/update.

I’m gonna buy some cool Holliday parallels.

Once he gets that first hit he will be just fine. Pressing a little right now

He is also 20 and has had 11 ABs - Adley & Gunnar both struggled early as well. Elias talked about it yesterday in his presser