The Thread for Reasonable and Informed Commentary Regarding Quarterback Tanner McKee
 

Can't wait to see which team draft this super smart, super talented kid.

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Week 2 of being excited about Tanner McKee.

Who is this, now?

Reasonable and Informed is the dumbest sh*t I've ever heard.

[QUOTE=rman112;18786267]Reasonable and Informed is the dumbest sh*t I've ever heard.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;18786271][IMG]https://i.gifer.com/7S5t.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]

5 planets, man.

Long time lurker, first time poster. This thread has inspired me to SMASH the piggy bank for Tanner McKee!

For real though, watched a lot of college football this past season and I wouldn't mind my Vikings taking him if he falls to round 3.

[QUOTE=Wrong Lever;18786826]Long time lurker, first time poster. This thread has inspired me to SMASH the piggy bank for Tanner McKee!

For real though, watched a lot of college football this past season and I wouldn't mind my Vikings taking him if he falls to round 3.[/QUOTE]

Congrats on your new retirement account!

[QUOTE=Wrong Lever;18786826]Long time lurker, first time poster. This thread has inspired me to SMASH the piggy bank for Tanner McKee!

For real though, watched a lot of college football this past season and I wouldn't mind my Vikings taking him if he falls to round 3.[/QUOTE]

We know it's You, Frenzy.

[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;18786847]Congrats on your new retirement account![/QUOTE]

Tanner McKee to the MOON!!! Invest!

[QUOTE=Wrong Lever;18786857]Tanner McKee to the MOON!!! Invest![/QUOTE]

:cry:

What a world

Hey Lever - great occupation

[QUOTE=rman112;18786853]We know it's You, Frenzy.[/QUOTE]

You underestimate the rabid Tanner McKee fanbase. There are dozens of us! Dozens!

[QUOTE=rman112;18786862]Hey Lever - great occupation[/QUOTE]

Thanks man, always been a passion of mine. No two days are ever the same, and you get to meet a lot of interesting people, haha.

See, this is why we need more hype threads.

They draw in new, unique folk to liven up the place.

[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;18786908]See, this is why we need more hype threads.

They draw in new, unique folk to liven up the place.[/QUOTE]

Hype threads to the moon?

[QUOTE=Wrong Lever;18786826]Long time lurker, first time poster. This thread has inspired me to SMASH the piggy bank for Tanner McKee!

For real though, watched a lot of college football this past season and I wouldn't mind my Vikings taking him if he falls to round 3.[/QUOTE]

You and I may have to have a contest for most McKee autos LOL I had about 50 but sold off or am in process of selling about 20. Everything I have left is numbered to like 20 or less. Here's my 1/1 collection.

People kept sleeping on him and his prices stayed down so I just kept buying and buying. I agree, he's be a great fit for Vikings and could learn a year under Cousins before they show him the door. Can you imagine McKee throwing to JJ??? :)

This thread is making me giddy.

[QUOTE=Floridacardguy;18787350]You and I may have to have a contest for most McKee autos LOL I had about 50 but sold off or am in process of selling about 20. Everything I have left is numbered to like 20 or less. Here's my 1/1 collection.

People kept sleeping on him and his prices stayed down so I just kept buying and buying. I agree, he's be a great fit for Vikings and could learn a year under Cousins before they show him the door. Can you imagine McKee throwing to JJ??? :)[/QUOTE]

You got me beat then, haha. I just tallied everything up at 45. Those red 1/1s are sick! I'm always a sucker for a nice color match. Agreed that his cards are way cheaper than you'd expect. I really hope the Bowman U Superfractor pops up someday, I need that and a red to complete the rainbow.

McKee throwing to JJ and Hock would be a nice combo! Feels like we finally have the kind of offensive line that won't get a young QB killed too; I'm just hoping we don't take Hendon Hooker like in lots of the mock drafts I'm seeing, haha.

[QUOTE=Wrong Lever;18786826] I wouldn't mind my Vikings taking him if he falls to round 3.[/QUOTE]

ESPN agrees!

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[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;18790149]ESPN agrees!

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McKee had very weak weapons to throw to and was greatly pressured on almost every throw. I forget the stat, but it was like pressure on every drop back or something. If this guy had time and weapons, he could have put up great numbers. He has the size and can make the throws. My money is on the Vikings or maybe the Raiders grabbing him. Jimmy G is one play away from IR at any time, and he is certainly not a long term QB solution for the Raiders. Love to see what Mckee could do throwing to Adams or Jefferson

Does Sam Howell know about this thread?

[QUOTE=JeremyNick;18790212]Does Sam Howell know about this thread?[/QUOTE]

Sam carries the only hope of nixing the Frenzy kiss of death.

Please don't let us down Sam

Josh Rosen be like

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[QUOTE=Floridacardguy;18790202]McKee had very weak weapons to throw to and was greatly pressured on almost every throw. I forget the stat, but it was like pressure on every drop back or something. If this guy had time and weapons, he could have put up great numbers. He has the size and can make the throws. My money is on the Vikings or maybe the Raiders grabbing him. Jimmy G is one play away from IR at any time, and he is certainly not a long term QB solution for the Raiders. Love to see what Mckee could do throwing to Adams or Jefferson[/QUOTE]

Yeah, McKee really seemed to be set up to fail last season. Not much you can do when your team is built around the run game but all your running backs die like the '21 Ravens, forcing you to convert a safety to start the last 5 games, haha. And that's without getting into the ridiculous slow mesh scheme that was an epic act of self sabotage...

I don't know how long it will be until we get nice McKee cards, but I broke down and snagged Bowman U auto during my lunch break today.

[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;18790502]I don't know how long it will be until we get nice McKee cards, but I broke down and snagged Bowman U auto during my lunch break today.[/QUOTE]

Bowman 1st > RC Logo according to those in the know ;)

[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;18790502]I don't know how long it will be until we get nice McKee cards, but I broke down and snagged Bowman U auto during my lunch break today.[/QUOTE]

Bowman U looks so much nicer to me than the majority of Leaf offerings. Really wish McKee made the cut for Bowman U Chrome.

[QUOTE=jplarson;18790284]Josh Rosen be like

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He'll always have a special place in my heart. Still waiting for the Cowboys to sign him.

[QUOTE=chasacar86;18790253]Sam carries the only hope of nixing the Frenzy kiss of death.

Please don't let us down Sam[/QUOTE]

I've got three more cards coming in the mail. When they get here I'll post an updated collection pic.

[QUOTE=Wrong Lever;18791160]Really wish McKee made the cut for Bowman U Chrome.[/QUOTE]

It will certainly go down as one of the greatest missed opportunities in the hobby's history.

[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;18791223]It will certainly go down as one of the greatest missed opportunities in the hobby's history.[/QUOTE]

Odds of missing out on these types of prospects will be greatly diminished if the rumors are true about a doubling of the Bowman U checklist size next year.

I also wouldn't put it past Topps to hold out certain prospects to give them their Bowman 1st in a later release like they do in baseball. Maybe if McKee had announced sooner they would have added him to this set or maybe they were banking he would stay another year and help highlight a 2023 Bowman U set.

[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;18791193]I've got three more cards coming in the mail. When they get here I'll post an updated collection pic.[/QUOTE]

I am Tannered out for now. My next Tanner purchases will be in whatever new stuff comes out with him. How he was left out of Bowman U Chrome is beyond me.
Love My Mckee 1/1 collection I have 6 so far.

He will be better off being drafted in 3rd 4 th round

Richardson was god awful half his 13 starts. Now getting drafted top 5
Young on best team in football his whole career and is hair over 5’9 190 pounds
I would take stroud in first round but it’s osu..
Levi’s not sure what he is ? Bodybuilder ?

Pressure if top 10 pick is going to be real with this group

[QUOTE=kyle1707;18791521]He will be better off being drafted in 3rd 4 th round

Richardson was god awful half his 13 starts. Now getting drafted top 5
Young on best team in football his whole career and is hair over 5’9 190 pounds
I would take stroud in first round but it’s osu..
Levi’s not sure what he is ? Bodybuilder ?

Pressure if top 10 pick is going to be real with this group[/QUOTE]

History has taught us that most likely, some of the QBs drafted in RD 1 will bust and 1-2 have a chance to have good careers. Or it could be like 2006 when you had Matt Leinert, Vince Young, and Jay Cutler. 2 were busts and Cutler had a decent career, not HOF worthy. McKee in rd 3-4 sounds about right. No real pressure. He can go to the bench and learn from someone. He is a perfect fit for Vikings or Raiders. The Raiders now have Jimmy G and Hoyer, neither one is a long term hurdle. For the Vikings, Cousins is under contract for one more season then he is likely getting cut loose

[QUOTE=Floridacardguy;18791283]I am Tannered out for now. My next Tanner purchases will be in whatever new stuff comes out with him. How he was left out of Bowman U Chrome is beyond me.
Love My Mckee 1/1 collection I have 6 so far.[/QUOTE]

These are some trippy photos to look at. We have a lot of the same cards and very similar countertops, haha.

[QUOTE=Wrong Lever;18791722]These are some trippy photos to look at. We have a lot of the same cards and very similar countertops, haha.[/QUOTE]

Great minds think alike :flex:

[QUOTE=Floridacardguy;18791724]Great minds think alike :flex:[/QUOTE]

Slightly off topic, but as a Florida guy, what are your thoughts on Tyler Van Dyke? From what I understand, he was supposed to be a big time prospect in this year’s class but had to go back one more year after struggling. He has a lot of nice cards with a similar price point to McKee.

[QUOTE=Wrong Lever;18792116]Slightly off topic, but as a Florida guy, what are your thoughts on Tyler Van Dyke? From what I understand, he was supposed to be a big time prospect in this year’s class but had to go back one more year after struggling. He has a lot of nice cards with a similar price point to McKee.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I don't know too much about him, but I read the same things that he felt another year in college could raise his game and his draft stock.
One guy I am watching out for is Sam Huard. I think he will be a good value pick in 2024 and has good upside

[QUOTE=Floridacardguy;18792181]Yeah, I don't know too much about him, but I read the same things that he felt another year in college could raise his game and his draft stock.
One guy I am watching out for is Sam Huard. I think he will be a good value pick in 2024 and has good upside[/QUOTE]

Can’t say I know much about Sam Huard, but I always love looking up potential prospects. Pretty sure my LCS has a couple of Sam Huards in the 50% off box, haha. I might have to snag one. For next year I like where Cameron Ward is priced at, and I think JJ McCarthy’s BCU stuff is cheaper than it should be. Seems like his 1st Bowmans are the ones people are bidding up, but I like the licensed ones more.

My first McKee card.

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Thank you for your contribution to the McKee Ebay comps!

[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;18790149]ESPN agrees!

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What was it that got you so excited? The fact that he is the 8th ranked QB in the class, or the 13 TD/8 INT's?

[QUOTE=Hail2TheVictors;18806127]What was it that got you so excited? The fact that he is the 8th ranked QB in the class, or the 13 TD/8 INT's?[/QUOTE]

You sound like the kind of person who eats popcorn with a spoon.

[QUOTE=Hail2TheVictors;18806127]What was it that got you so excited? The fact that he is the 8th ranked QB in the class, or the 13 TD/8 INT's?[/QUOTE]

Was that a legit question or wanted to [S]burn[/S] slightly crisp a guy who likes unheralded non-glory boy QBs who don't hold multiple franchises hostage?

[QUOTE=Floridacardguy;18790202]If this guy had time and weapons, he could have put up great numbers. [/QUOTE]

Isn't this true of the majority of quarterbacks?

[QUOTE=foleylion08;18806591]Isn't this true of the majority of quarterbacks?[/QUOTE]

Now I want to know which QB crapped the bed with the most talented roster.

[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;18806597]Now I want to know which QB crapped the bed with the most talented roster.[/QUOTE]

Quick thinking brings me to Marc Bulger and the '02 Rams. Faulk, Holt and Bruce and he managed to throw 22 TDs and 22 picks. Of course Faulk missed five games and the team did end up 12-4. A healthy Warner probably takes them back to the SB.

Then consider Matt Cassell in 2008 with the (almost) undefeated Pats squad. Goes 10-5, 22 TDs and 11 picks.

I'm sure there are some who bombed with better players. I'd consider any Lions quarterback during the Sanders/Moore years.

[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;18806597]Now I want to know which QB crapped the bed with the most talented roster.[/QUOTE]

Jay Cutler, 2013.

[QUOTE=foleylion08;18806613]Quick thinking brings me to Marc Bulger and the '02 Rams. Faulk, Holt and Bruce and he managed to throw 22 TDs and 22 picks. Of course Faulk missed five games and the team did end up 12-4. A healthy Warner probably takes them back to the SB. [/QUOTE]

ooo yeah that's a good one!

[QUOTE=jplarson;18806614]Jay Cutler, 2013.



ooo yeah that's a good one![/QUOTE]

He missed 5 games that year and still had 19 TD and 2600 yards. A full season at that pace would have netted him 30 TD and 4,000 yards. Not stellar stats, but not terrible.

[QUOTE=foleylion08;18806591]Isn't this true of the majority of quarterbacks?[/QUOTE]

No, I am talking about the nay sayers who are pointing to his lack of stats. You put Bryce Young, Stroud, or anyone in that same offense, with same weapons, their stats would have been a lot worse too. People equate big stat lines with talent/skills, and not always the case.

[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;18806597]Now I want to know which QB crapped the bed with the most talented roster.[/QUOTE]

Russell Wilson 2022

[QUOTE=Floridacardguy;18806659]No, I am talking about the nay sayers who are pointing to his lack of stats. You put Bryce Young, Stroud, or anyone in that same offense, with same weapons, their stats would have been a lot worse too. People equate big stat lines with talent/skills, and not always the case.[/QUOTE]

Did you by chance glance at the skill players surrounding Bryce this year? Jermaine Burton, Ja'corey Brooks, Cameron Latu, Kobe Prentice (FR), Traeshon Holden, Jojo Earle, Roydell Williams. Heck if it wasn't for Jahmyr Gibbs that offense would've looked atrocious. I'd venture to say not a single receiver on the roster (aside from freshman who could improve) is drafted in the top 3 rounds when eligible.

He wasn't playing with the guys Hurts, Tua and Mac had. Not to mention the worst OL Alabama has had in probably 10 years.

[QUOTE=Floridacardguy;18806654]He missed 5 games that year and still had 19 TD and 2600 yards. A full season at that pace would have netted him 30 TD and 4,000 yards. Not stellar stats, but not terrible.[/QUOTE]

And his backup tossed 13 TDs, 1 pick, and 1,800 yards in half as many starts. Ultimately Cutler went 5-6 with those stats. Maybe Jameis Winston/Kyle Trask worthy, but not getting in the playoffs and thus qualifies for bed soiling.

[QUOTE=foleylion08;18806684]Did you by chance glance at the skill players surrounding Bryce this year? Jermaine Burton, Ja'corey Brooks, Cameron Latu, Kobe Prentice (FR), Traeshon Holden, Jojo Earle, Roydell Williams. Heck if it wasn't for Jahmyr Gibbs that offense would've looked atrocious. I'd venture to say not a single receiver on the roster (aside from freshman who could improve) is drafted in the top 3 rounds when eligible.

He wasn't playing with the guys Hurts, Tua and Mac had. Not to mention the worst OL Alabama has had in probably 10 years.[/QUOTE]

I am not saying McKee is as good as Bryce, and he certainly is not as nimble. You mentioned some shaky weapons for Bryce, closing with Jahmyr Gibbs. McKee didnt even have a Gibbs on his team, and if you look at the stats for pressure, I forget the %, but he was pressured on a very high % of passes, so his O line too did no favors for him either. The guy is a good pocket passer and has strength and good arm strength and huge size. He needs to have a good O line and someone to throw to. He could do well in the right system which is why I hope he goes to the Vikings

[QUOTE=Floridacardguy;18806781]if you look at the stats for pressure, I forget the %, but he was pressured on a very high % of passes, so his O line too did no favors for him either. [/QUOTE]

Sheesh, Stanford was giving up 3.5 sacks per game :eek: good for 122nd of 131 schools. Poor guy.

[QUOTE=foleylion08;18807106]Sheesh, Stanford was giving up 3.5 sacks per game :eek: good for 122nd of 131 schools. Poor guy.[/QUOTE]

Yep, and the pressures per drop back were really high too.

The slow mesh scheme Stanford ran made no sense to me. It was literally the anti-Tanner McKee offense.

[QUOTE=Wrong Lever;18807168]The slow mesh scheme Stanford ran made no sense to me. It was literally the anti-Tanner McKee offense.[/QUOTE]

He’s going to light up the league with the right coordinator.

First of all, how dare they.

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[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;18813132]First of all, how dare they.

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LMAO, yeah I have seen a few dumb lists like this. Guy is 2nd to 3rd rd all day ahead of 4 or 5 of those guys

Whenever I see Mel Kipper’s name, I just think about how he said he’d retire if Jimmy Clausen didn’t turn into a franchise QB. Maybe it’s for the best that Kiper doesn’t like McKee, haha

Just picked up another McKee numbered Bowman University out of spite.

[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;18813198]Just picked up another McKee numbered Bowman University out of spite.[/QUOTE]

This is the way!

[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;18813198]Just picked up another McKee numbered Bowman University out of spite.[/QUOTE]


Looking for a 1/1??? I am looking to move a couple of these

[QUOTE=Floridacardguy;18813314]Looking for a 1/1??? I am looking to move a couple of these[/QUOTE]

Contenting myself with the "1st" Bowman U's and waiting until the licensed stuff drops.

[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;18813371]Contenting myself with the "1st" Bowman U's and waiting until the licensed stuff drops.[/QUOTE]

But was the seller offering them dirt cheap?

[QUOTE=hairysasquatch;18813468]But was the seller offering them dirt cheap?[/QUOTE]

$3 for a green /99?

[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;18813487]$3 for a green /99?[/QUOTE]

That's more clay cheap really.

[QUOTE=jplarson;18813639]That's more clay cheap really.[/QUOTE]

I feel like there's a Blowout Sedimentary Scale of Value chart somewhere that I've somehow missed out on.

All I need to know is, is magma really valuable or totally worthless?

[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;18813487]$3 for a green /99?[/QUOTE]

Seems like a score for the discerning McKee buyer

[QUOTE=rman112;18786267]Reasonable and Informed is the dumbest sh*t I've ever heard.[/QUOTE]

How did I miss the fact that this a$$hat was banned.

Today is a good day

Get ready for the dumbest thing you'll read all weekend:

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