Rolling 2022 Bowman Draft Autograph Checklist Thread
 

Well we may still not have any solicitation sheets for this product yet, but at least we have our first name.

Please keep your eyes peeled for more, and report it here. Pics appreciated.

[U]Draft Prospect Autographs[/U]
Ivan Melendez (AZ)
Nathan Martorella (SD)
Trey Lipscomb (WAS)
Jared McKenzie (WAS)
Chase DeLauter (CLE)
Jakob Marsee (SD)
Reggie Crawford (SF)
Jordan Sprinkle (CHW)
Anthony Hall (NYY)
Brandon Birdsell (CHC)
Sterlin Thompson (COL)
Sean McLain (LAD)
Logan Tanner (CIN)
Douglas Hodo (BAL)
Zach Neto (LAA)
Pete Hansen (STL)
Chase Meidroth (BOS)
Sonny DiChiara (LAA)
Dalton Rushing (LAD)
Ben Joyce (LAA)
Zach Maxwell (CIN)
Victor Scott (STL)
Blake Burkhalter (ATL)
Michael Kennedy (PIT)
Cade Doughty (TOR)
Cade Hunter (CIN)
Cole Phillips (ATL)
Karson Milbrandt (MIA)
Christopher Paciolla (CHC)
Henry Bolte (OAK)
Tucker Toman (TOR)
Michael Prosecky (COL)

Ivan Melendez (AZ)
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[QUOTE=Jaypers;18509216]Ivan Melendez (AZ)
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Very nice! Certainly looks like 2022 Bowman design (and not some early look at 2023 Bowman). So, despite some rumors to the contrary, as very much widely expected, 2022 Bowman Draft is indeed a go.

[QUOTE=Jaypers;18509216]Ivan Melendez (AZ)
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Hey Ivan, do you mind not holding the corner that way? I bet that will be the auto I pull :D

[QUOTE=pacman099;18509234]Hey Ivan, do you mind not holding the corner that way? I bet that will be the auto I pull :D[/QUOTE]

I'll take that and other Melendez autos off your hands! Hook em!

That's a solid 1st name.

[QUOTE=rwperu34;18509463]That's a solid 1st name.[/QUOTE]

"Ivan?" Come on, that's not solid. It's terrible.

:p:p:p

[QUOTE=caulaflour;18509525]"Ivan?" Come on, that's not solid. It's terrible.

:p:p:p[/QUOTE]

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Edit - never mind, wrong product.

[QUOTE=Jaypers;18517504]So, I assume this guy will be in Bowman Draft. Guessing it's an insert (says "Stadium Chrome"), and he's obviously not a Draft Pick. No mention was made of this set in Bowman Chrome, hence the assumption he'll be in Draft.


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Bryan Lavastida? Had a rookie in Update and was in 18 Draft. He’s likely signing rookie autos for SC Chrome right?

[QUOTE=jcfill;18517514]Bryan Lavastida? Had a rookie in Update and was in 18 Draft. He’s likely signing rookie autos for SC Chrome right?[/QUOTE]

My bad. I found this insert set, to be found in the upcoming 2022 Topps Stadium Club, releasing late this month.

Nathan Martorella (SD)
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Trey Lipscomb (WAS)
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Jared McKenzie (WAS)
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Signs pointing to a monster size checklist, multiple 5th rounders there. Singles only

[QUOTE=mwash1983;18521909]Signs pointing to a monster size checklist, multiple 5th rounders there. Singles only[/QUOTE]

2 of 4 signers are 5th rounders for anyone curious lol last year there were 10 5th rounders in the product.

This has big potential

I wonder if this is the beginning of the distro method being wildly different. There's been no solicitation on this, from what I've seen/read. (That was me perpetuating a rumor of this not happening, kinda).

As for the names -- it's really early, but it's fine so far. All hitters at least?

Also, if we've only seen 4 signers & we're supposedly 6 weeks out....well that's just not gonna happen.

Chase DeLauter (CLE)
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Jakob Marsee (SD)
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Reggie Crawford (SF)
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Jordan Sprinkle (CHW)
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Anthony Hall (NYY)
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The lack of excitement in this threads sums up where the hobby is at perfectly. Draft has been a cornerstone product for as long as I can remember. It was my absolute favorite until pricing jumped to crazy pill levels…but even so I recall the hype and excitement when new names were released. We’ve had 4 straight Jaypers posts with new players added…and crickets. To me this has the look of a bloated checklist already…we’ve had 10ish names with one exciting first rounder and a handful of 4ths, 5ths and even a 6th. (6th!!!!). I don’t expect jumbo cases to open for presale at anything less than $3k plus, and I’m guessing the masses expect the same. Have we finally reached the breaking point in wax prices? The “normal” we experienced from 2005-2015 of $1,200 jumbo cases is gone…I get that. But will we get somewhat close to that if no one but breakers is buying?

What's interesting is Beckett has a release date listed on 12/14....

[url]https://www.beckett.com/news/sports-card-release-calendar-dates[/url]

It doesn't show up on anywhere the other big dealer's release calendars...

Brandon Birdsell (CHC)
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I realize not every guy will share these on their instagram stories, but we're waiting for some of the big boys to be confirmed. Holliday, Jones, Johnson, Green. Somebody!

[QUOTE=cbeauch87;18530220]I realize not every guy will share these on their instagram stories, but we're waiting for some of the big boys to be confirmed. Holliday, Jones, Johnson, Green. Somebody![/QUOTE]Going to be interesting to see who gets held over for 2023 Bowman.

[QUOTE=cbeauch87;18530220]I realize not every guy will share these on their instagram stories, but we're waiting for some of the big boys to be confirmed. Holliday, Jones, Johnson, Green. Somebody![/QUOTE]

Went back to few the last few years of rolling draft auto threads and noticed the big guys seem to rarely post.

For example, if you were basing the 2021 checklist only off who posted signing the biggest chases would be Jay Allen and Frank Mozzicato. Even in 2020 the biggest name to post was Hassell and the next best was Soderstrom (who wasn't even that huge at the time).

[QUOTE=mwash1983;18521909]Signs pointing to a monster size checklist, multiple 5th rounders there. Singles only[/QUOTE]

I learned my lesson...

If I am allowed back into a break it will be chrome only.

[QUOTE=erock28;18528060]The lack of excitement in this threads sums up where the hobby is at perfectly. Draft has been a cornerstone product for as long as I can remember. It was my absolute favorite until pricing jumped to crazy pill levels…but even so I recall the hype and excitement when new names were released. We’ve had 4 straight Jaypers posts with new players added…and crickets. To me this has the look of a bloated checklist already…we’ve had 10ish names with one exciting first rounder and a handful of 4ths, 5ths and even a 6th. (6th!!!!). I don’t expect jumbo cases to open for presale at anything less than $3k plus, and I’m guessing the masses expect the same. Have we finally reached the breaking point in wax prices? The “normal” we experienced from 2005-2015 of $1,200 jumbo cases is gone…I get that. But will we get somewhat close to that if no one but breakers is buying?[/QUOTE]

I think most people have learned to temper their enthusiasm because of the unknown release date. If there is a name or two to chase, and there will be, people will still gamble.

[QUOTE=bubbs11;18531209]I think most people have learned to temper their enthusiasm because of the unknown release date. If there is a name or two to chase, and there will be, people will still gamble.[/QUOTE]

I agree, I think it has much less to do with the hobby and much more to do with the unknowns. Also the chatter on these baseball boards go down significantly when the season ends.

Sterlin Thompson (COL)
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[QUOTE=premium1981;18531213]I agree, I think it has much less to do with the hobby and much more to do with the unknowns. [B]Also the chatter on these baseball boards go down significantly when the season ends.[/B][/QUOTE]

But not Bowman Draft chatter. I agree this thread has been light so far. We need Fanatics to at least give us some box prices to complain about.

Sean McLain (LAD)
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Logan Tanner (CIN)
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Douglas Hodo (BAL)
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Yikes, I could be wrong, but seeing Hodo for the O's makes me think it's less likely we get Jackson Holliday or one of the other Orioles top 4 picks, which are all promising hitters (Holliday, Beavers, Wagner, Fabian).

Zach Neto (LAA)
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[QUOTE=Oriole Way;18533981]Yikes, I could be wrong, but seeing Hodo for the O's makes me think it's less likely we get Jackson Holliday or one of the other Orioles top 4 picks, which are all promising hitters (Holliday, Beavers, Wagner, Fabian).[/QUOTE]

When was the last time the 1st overall pick wasn't in Draft? I'm sure Holliday will be in there. It seems there's usually a top-5 pick who's held over for Bowman the following year, and I would put money on that being Druw Jones.

[QUOTE=cbeauch87;18533997]When was the last time the 1st overall pick wasn't in Draft? I'm sure Holliday will be in there. It seems there's usually a top-5 pick who's held over for Bowman the following year, and I would put money on that being Druw Jones.[/QUOTE]

True, hopefully they stay the course with including the #1 overall. But Hodo probably means Beavers, Wagner, or Fabian won't be in 22 Draft. Selfishly as an O's fan, I was hoping for at least two of those guys.

[QUOTE=cbeauch87;18533997]When was the last time the 1st overall pick wasn't in Draft? I'm sure Holliday will be in there. It seems there's usually a top-5 pick who's held over for Bowman the following year, and I would put money on that being Druw Jones.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it's probably going to be Jones that is held over. That would be a bummer though. I'd love to have BOTH Jones and Holliday together in one release.

1st rd holdovers to the next year:

2021
2 - Jack Leiter (still no Topps cards whatsoever, may have not been the 'tradition' thing)
14 - Kahlil Watson
15 - Matt McLain
20 - Trey Sweeney
21 - Jordan Wicks
22 - Colson Montgomery
25 - Max Muncy

2020
5 - Austin Martin (2 was an underslot Heston Kjerstad)
15 - Mick Abel
27 - Aaron Sabato

2019
2 -Bobby Witt
17 - Jackson Rutledge
30 - Anthony Volpe

2018
2 - Joey Bart
28 - Seth Beer

2017
2 - Hunter Greene

Is the takeaway that they hold over 6 1st rounders again? Who knows.

The wild card in all of this is another Leiter situation -- he's only signed for (garbage company) since turning pro. Putting 2 & 2 together, it may be an exclusive contract of some ilk.

[QUOTE=Oriole Way;18533981]Yikes, I could be wrong, but seeing Hodo for the O's makes me think it's less likely we get Jackson Holliday or one of the other Orioles top 4 picks, which are all promising hitters (Holliday, Beavers, [B]Wagner[/B], Fabian).[/QUOTE]

you stay away....

[QUOTE=marterburn;18534360]1st rd holdovers to the next year:

2021
2 - Jack Leiter (still no Topps cards whatsoever, may have not been the 'tradition' thing)
14 - Kahlil Watson
15 - Matt McLain
20 - Trey Sweeney
21 - Jordan Wicks
22 - Colson Montgomery
25 - Max Muncy

2020
5 - Austin Martin (2 was an underslot Heston Kjerstad)
15 - Mick Abel
27 - Aaron Sabato

2019
2 -Bobby Witt
17 - Jackson Rutledge
30 - Anthony Volpe

2018
2 - Joey Bart
28 - Seth Beer

2017
2 - Hunter Greene

Is the takeaway that they hold over 6 1st rounders again? Who knows.

The wild card in all of this is another Leiter situation -- he's only signed for (garbage company) since turning pro. Putting 2 & 2 together, it may be an exclusive contract of some ilk.[/QUOTE]
Wow, didn't realize so many 1st rounders were held out of Draft last year. Just have to assume that trend continues again this year though, fortunately, it's a very deep draft. Should allow 2023 Bowman to be fairly strong, especially if Jones gets held over to that as that is pretty consistently the trend for the #2 pick (unless we get the curve ball and they view him as the top overall talent in the draft, as many do, and they include him up-front in Draft).

[QUOTE=Oriole Way;18533981]Yikes, I could be wrong, but seeing Hodo for the O's makes me think it's less likely we get Jackson Holliday or one of the other Orioles top 4 picks, which are all promising hitters (Holliday, Beavers, Wagner, Fabian).[/QUOTE]

That shouldn't impact Beavers/Wagner/Fabian. Holliday is different because he went 1.1...but any other mid/low 1sts and all 2nds and 3rds are well better than 50% odds of draft inclusion. You could easily see all 3 of them in along with Hodo. Just because they're on the same MLB team means nothing. Hell, the 2011 set had something like 6 Rays out of 50 auto'd prospects, lol.

[QUOTE=mcwildcats;18534612]Wow, didn't realize so many 1st rounders were held out of Draft last year. Just have to assume that trend continues again this year though, fortunately, it's a very deep draft. Should allow 2023 Bowman to be fairly strong, especially if Jones gets held over to that as that is pretty consistently the trend for the #2 pick (unless we get the curve ball and they view him as the top overall talent in the draft, as many do, and they include him up-front in Draft).[/QUOTE]

My guess would be 4-6 first rounders will be held for Bowman, with either Holliday or JOnes (likely Jones) and either Termarr Johnson or Elijah Green being two of them in 2023 Bowman. I would be extremely surprised if three of those four names are in 2022 Draft.

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Logan Tanner (CIN)
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:)!:)!:)!

Pete Hansen (STL)
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I will be staying far away from Draft this year for a couple reasons:

1. draft wasn't particularly astounding--Jones is exciting but had the shoulder injury, Elijaah is exciting but has a huge bust potential, Termarr has a tempered ceiling, and I'm not particularly high on Holliday's overall ceiling. I assume Jones will be $700+ easily in the spring. Don't see this being a positive EV prospect play.

2. Not much in the way of exciting mid-late first high school high ceiling guys. Collier, Crawford, are interesting. Just don't see much here.

3. Lot of college catching and pitchable lefties. A lot of athletic outfield college bats with big time contact concerns.

Think it's going to be a very very top heavy product.
D Jones, Elijah, Spencer Jones, Holliday, Termarr in the top bucket.

Collier, Jett Williams, the Crawfords would be in the next tier. Just don't see a ton of depth.

[QUOTE=erock28;18534629]My guess would be 4-6 first rounders will be held for Bowman, with either Holliday or JOnes (likely Jones) and either Termarr Johnson or Elijah Green being two of them in 2023 Bowman. I would be extremely surprised if three of those four names are in 2022 Draft.[/QUOTE] That would be pretty craycray

[QUOTE=Boredlawyer;18535260]I will be staying far away from Draft this year for a couple reasons:

1. [B]draft wasn't particularly astounding[/B]--Jones is exciting but had the shoulder injury, Elijaah is exciting but has a huge bust potential, Termarr has a tempered ceiling, and I'm not particularly high on Holliday's overall ceiling. I assume Jones will be $700+ easily in the spring. Don't see this being a positive EV prospect play.

2. Not much in the way of exciting mid-late first high school high ceiling guys. Collier, Crawford, are interesting. Just don't see much here.

3. Lot of college catching and pitchable lefties. A lot of athletic outfield college bats with big time contact concerns.

Think it's going to be a very very top heavy product.
D Jones, Elijah, Spencer Jones, Holliday, Termarr in the top bucket.

Collier, Jett Williams, the Crawfords would be in the next tier. Just don't see a ton of depth.[/QUOTE]
Wow, this is all surprising. Only thing I've heard is this is one of the best drafts in recent memory. I plan to buy some to keep sealed, depending on price of course. Hopefully not some massive price increase over last year's pricing.

Chase Meidroth (BOS)
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Sonny DiChiara (LAA)
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Dalton Rushing (LAD)
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Up to 20 names.

Ben Joyce (LAA)
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[QUOTE=mcwildcats;18535330]Wow, this is all surprising. Only thing I've heard is this is one of the best drafts in recent memory. I plan to buy some to keep sealed, depending on price of course. Hopefully not some massive price increase over last year's pricing.[/QUOTE]


There's 4-5 exciting bats and the selling point was the # of high school bats early. I think Holliday is the most unexciting #1 pick since Royce Lewis in 17. Druw Jones is, in my opinion, the top talent, but not good enough that Baltimore was willing to take him #1.

Stars always emerge but I think it's a pretty average class. There's college pitching depth as you get into the second round. But this will be a bloodbath as always with wax.

[QUOTE=mcwildcats;18535330]Wow, this is all surprising. Only thing I've heard is this is one of the best drafts in recent memory. I plan to buy some to keep sealed, depending on price of course. Hopefully not some massive price increase over last year's pricing.[/QUOTE]

he has horrendous takes

Interesting that among these 20 names -- 0 prep.

Zach Maxwell (CIN)
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Victor Scott (STL)
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Blake Burkhalter (ATL)
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Michael Kennedy (PIT)
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Cade Doughty (TOR)
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Cade Hunter (CIN)
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I will say for pitching lovers - Burkhalter looks like an absolute stud so far.

Cole Phillips (ATL)
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It takes a special kind of intention to pick out 3 definite RP's -- Joyce, Burkhalter, Maxwell -- (plus 1 probable -- Birdsell) for the auto CL.

They're trying Burkhalter out as a starter, I mean he's likely to be a reliever in the pros:

Closest To The Majors: Burkhalter (2s) was a reliever only in college, but it sounds like the Braves are going to give him a chance to start thanks to his impressive command. If he does go back to a reliever role he has the fastball/slider combo to move quickly.

[QUOTE=brothertona;18540996]They're trying Burkhalter out as a starter, I mean he's likely to be a reliever in the pros:

Closest To The Majors: Burkhalter (2s) was a reliever only in college, but it sounds like the Braves are going to give him a chance to start thanks to his impressive command. If he does go back to a reliever role he has the fastball/slider combo to move quickly.[/QUOTE]

Yeah they said that about Joyce too, to be fair. But we know what's going to happen.

[QUOTE=marterburn;18541111]Yeah they said that about Joyce too, to be fair. But we know what's going to happen.[/QUOTE]


Of course, high end relievers are getting 15 million plus- why not just develop your own? He’s likely up next year if they keep him in pen


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Karson Milbrandt (MIA)
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[QUOTE=Jaypers;18541574]Karson Milbrandt (MIA)
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A guy I was really hoping would get to Vandy. Hopefully he’s more Triston McKenzie than Nolan Watson.


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Quick high level checklist glance through Milbrandt...not enough puke emojis to do it justice. By round, with comp picks rolled into the round listed on MLB.com:

1st - 4
2nd - 6
3rd - 4
4th - 4
5th - 7
6th - 3

28 total players, half of which are 4th round or later. Average draft position of nearly 103. 25 of the 28 are college players. 12 - nearly half - are pitchers or catchers. It's a safe assumption to say this will get a LOT better, but this is easily the least inspiring checklist start to any Draft release. Might be time to just buy a set and a handful of single auto's to hold...was afraid this day would come. :(

[QUOTE=erock28;18542264]Quick high level checklist glance through Milbrandt...not enough puke emojis to do it justice. By round, with comp picks rolled into the round listed on MLB.com:



1st - 4

2nd - 6

3rd - 4

4th - 4

5th - 7

6th - 3



28 total players, half of which are 4th round or later. Average draft position of nearly 103. 25 of the 28 are college players. 12 - nearly half - are pitchers or catchers. It's a safe assumption to say this will get a LOT better, but this is easily the least inspiring checklist start to any Draft release. Might be time to just buy a set and a handful of single auto's to hold...was afraid this day would come. :([/QUOTE]Not great Bob.

I've got 3 bright green names on my sheet (meaning the MOST hobby-interesting) -- and then only two in the next tier down. That latter point is kinda the killer so far.

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[QUOTE=marterburn;18542290]Not great Bob.

I've got 3 bright green names on my sheet (meaning the MOST hobby-interesting) -- and then only two in the next tier down. That latter point is kinda the killer so far.

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You pointed out an unusual phenomenon earlier Max - the lack of prep players in the checklist thus far. 3 out of 28 is kind of shocking. I know we're nowhere near a finished product yet...but it is a strange mix to say the least.

is it just me or did they pull draft off the schedule?

i see Bowman Chrome has now been pushed back a week to November 30th

what a mess

Didn't draft use to get released late november? lol

#MakeCardsGreatAgain

This product was scheduled to release in Mid-December? Not that I'm concerned about it, but there's no way it's coming out until like February at this point, right?

[QUOTE=imbluestreak23;18542755]Didn't draft use to get released late november? lol

#MakeCardsGreatAgain[/QUOTE]

Usually early December, first week or two. Last year it hit on New Years Eve if I recall correctly...but that's as late as it's ever been

Christopher Paciolla (CHC)
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Sell sheet should hit any time, am hearing it was solicited this week to dealers

Henry Bolte (OAK)
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