2019 Topps And The Curious Case of Bryce Harper
 

.... Please I beg of you ... no nasty or dumb comments....

So for years and years, Topps has inserted Bryce Harper Autographs into almost EVERY SINGLE product.

When he decided to sign with the Phillies, I was thrilled because finally a "superstar" on my hometown team that I could collect. And OH! The Harper Hoskins Dual On Card from HERITAGE or HIGH # is going to be EPIC...

But ....

No sign of Bryce.... Did he have an agreement that ended or stop signing cards?

I apologize if there has been a thread about this before but I could not find anything.

[QUOTE=EamonKid;14823686].... Please I beg of you ... no nasty or dumb comments....[/QUOTE]

:( but I have bryce jokes

[QUOTE=EamonKid;14823686].... Please I beg of you ... no nasty or dumb comments....

So for years and years, Topps has inserted Bryce Harper Autographs into almost EVERY SINGLE product.

When he decided to sign with the Phillies, I was thrilled because finally a "superstar" on my hometown team that I could collect. And OH! The Harper Hoskins Dual On Card from HERITAGE or HIGH # is going to be EPIC...

But ....

No sign of Bryce.... Did he have an agreement that ended or stop signing cards?

I apologize if there has been a thread about this before but I could not find anything.[/QUOTE]

His agreement ended and price has gone up. They had an issue and were unable to get him into last year’s update with All Star and that was a big deal.

He's guaranteed to make $330 million so I'm sure spending hours signing cards for tens of thousands of dollars is much less appealing to him. I'm sure he still has a price and I'm sure a card company will eventually be willing to pay that but the days of him having tons of autographs are over.

[QUOTE=13goyankees13;14823758]He's guaranteed to make $330 million so I'm sure spending hours signing cards for tens of thousands of dollars is much less appealing to him. I'm sure he still has a price and I'm sure a card company will eventually be willing to pay that but the days of him having tons of autographs are over.[/QUOTE]

This would make his Phillie cards more valuable and pricier

“Superstar”?

[QUOTE=Wiseysez;14823841]“Superstar”?[/QUOTE]

Obviously, if Harold Baines...nevermind...

Bryce Harper, Harold Baines and Mario Mendoza walk into a bar..

[QUOTE=Wiseysez;14823841]“Superstar”?[/QUOTE]

There are better players, but not many are as well known outside of baseball as Bryce is.

Overrated. The less the better.

I applaud your wish for no nasty or dumb comments. And I agree.

His season is speaks for itself, no need to add on.


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[QUOTE=jhssketchcards;14824101]I applaud your wish for no nasty or dumb comments. And I agree.

His season is speaks for itself, no need to add on.


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He's not having his best season but is still pacing 30 homers and 110 or so RBI. Not necessarily worth $330million but far from a flop.

[QUOTE=HadWayTooMuch;14824249]He's not having his best season but is still pacing 30 homers and 110 or so RBI. Not necessarily worth $330million but far from a flop.[/QUOTE]

This

Far from 330-worth but far from a flop

Better than 95% of the garbage team

[QUOTE=LCM1223;14824276]This

Far from 330-worth but far from a flop

Better than 95% of the garbage team[/QUOTE]

If he heats up at all this season, which I certainly hope he does, his numbers will look something like this:

.270 35 HR 115 RBI

I don't know if it's worth that money but it's a pretty good season. And let's not forget, his $20million salary this year was paid for already between ticket purchases and his jerseys and such. The team isn't losing a penny on him this year.

I know I’d b e ecstatic to have a guy with a “pretty good year” or “not a flop” yet make top tier money


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[QUOTE=jhssketchcards;14824415]I know I’d b e ecstatic to have a guy with a “pretty good year” or “not a flop” yet make top tier money


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Sometimes you have to look at the glass half full...

[QUOTE=LCM1223;14824276]This

Far from 330-worth but far from a flop

Better than 95% of the garbage team[/QUOTE]

Baseball is a business right? I am sure he was worth the $300 million... can you imagine how much money the phillies are making off of him?

[QUOTE=jhssketchcards;14824101]I applaud your wish for no nasty or dumb comments. And I agree.

His season is speaks for itself, no need to add on.


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NL Ranks
3rd in doubles
2nd in walks on to his teammate
8th in RBIs...

Seems like a good season to me... plays basically everyday. Gets pitched around constantly etc

[QUOTE=jhssketchcards;14824415]I know I’d b e ecstatic to have a guy with a “pretty good year” or “not a flop” yet make top tier money


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Harper making $20 mil this year...

Strasburg almost 39, greinke almost 35, price 31, cespedes 29, pujols 28, "king felix" 28, lester 27.5, arrieta 25, j zimmerman 25, cano 24, heyward 22.5, kemp 21+, ellsbury 21, chris davis 21....

I'll take harper?

thats a clown question bro

on pace for about 30 homers/100 rbis/100 runs/100 walks/45 doubles

already equal to his war last year. His defense and base running has always been for the most part below average so he is doing something right.

[QUOTE=HadWayTooMuch;14824419]Sometimes you have to look at the glass half full...[/QUOTE]



For 300 mil that glass better be overflowing.
Those of you glad to have Harper that’s good because you’re stuck with him. All the stats he has are by what he is supposed to have as the MLBs future. Other than his MVP year he hasn’t gone anything more than be a good player, not a perennial MVP and HOF caliber guy. Trout has left him in the dust while they were once considered the two best. One, EARNInG his contract, another having a pretty good season.


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[QUOTE=jhssketchcards;14824535]For 300 mil that glass better be overflowing.
Those of you glad to have Harper that’s good because you’re stuck with him. All the stats he has are by what he is supposed to have as the MLBs future. Other than his MVP year he hasn’t gone anything more than be a good player, not a perennial MVP and HOF caliber guy. Trout has left him in the dust while they were once considered the two best. One, EARNInG his contract, another having a pretty good season.


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I have to ask. What is your expectation for Harper to have him be a success?

[QUOTE=HadWayTooMuch;14824573]I have to ask. What is your expectation for Harper to have him be a success?[/QUOTE]



With the stats guys are putting up, 30 HR is what 20 used to be. He’s under 30 and was expected to be one of the best ever. So far he’s not. One if the best now? Maybe maybe not. I’m an Astros fan and when I saw they signed Brantley I was skeptical with his injury history and age. He’s having a career year. As I said before Harper was deemed the future stud of baseball. He hasn’t been that except for 2015 but a lot of mediocre players have an MVP. If we want to say he’s a solid player that has had a good career, borderline great, I’m ok with that. But is he worth what he was paid? No way. Has he justified the contract? Not so far. It’s just one season for sure. He could hit 45 HR a year the next 7 years and I will change my tune in him. Buts it’s been since 2012 and he’s yet to fulfill his promise. People act like he’s on the same level with the elite players but he’s not, and many can’t accept that. Franco hitting 30+ HR, Hoskins etc is acceptable. It’s not for Harper considering how he presents himself and how many collectors especially see him. To me it’s like paying steak prices and getting a hamburger.


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[QUOTE=jhssketchcards;14824625]With the stats guys are putting up, 30 HR is what 20 used to be. He’s under 30 and [B]was expected to be one of the best ever[/B]. So far he’s not. One if the best now? Maybe maybe not. I’m an Astros fan and when I saw they signed Brantley I was skeptical with his injury history and age. He’s having a career year. As I said before Harper was deemed the future stud of baseball. He hasn’t been that except for 2015 but a lot of mediocre players have an MVP. If we want to say he’s a solid player that has had a good career, borderline great, I’m ok with that. But is he worth what he was paid? No way. Has he justified the contract? Not so far. It’s just one season for sure. He could hit 45 HR a year the next 7 years and I will change my tune in him. Buts it’s been since 2012 and he’s yet to fulfill his promise. People act like he’s on the same level with the elite players but he’s not, and many can’t accept that. Franco hitting 30+ HR, Hoskins etc is acceptable. It’s not for Harper considering how he presents himself and how many collectors especially see him. To me it’s like paying steak prices and getting a hamburger.


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You are correct.... he WAS. That boat has sailed.

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[QUOTE=HadWayTooMuch;14824326]If he heats up at all this season, which I certainly hope he does, his numbers will look something like this:



.270 35 HR 115 RBI



I don't know if it's worth that money but it's a pretty good season. And let's not forget, his $20million salary this year was paid for already between ticket purchases and his jerseys and such. The team isn't losing a penny on him this year.[/QUOTE]With the current juiced ball those could also be Jorge Soler's numbers this year. Or Dan Vogelbach's. Probably not the average but Harper's isn't up there yet either.

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Why would topps pay a guy big money to sign, when collectors are ok getting rookies and young star to sign for product that only get a few cents on the dollar to sign?

Collectors have yet to balk at paying big money for wax and pull garbage autographs. DO you really think Vlad Jr. is signing for 50 dollar a sig? He is probably getting 50 cents an autograph. That is how MLB is run.

[QUOTE=glassnickels;14824691]With the current juiced ball those could also be Jorge Soler's numbers this year. Or Dan Vogelbach's. Probably not the average but Harper's isn't up there yet either.

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This brings up another point altogether.

With the insanity of Pete Alonso hitting 29 homeruns on July 6, what is the reasonable expectation for Harper?

And let's not forget, he has a half season and summertime at CBP to improve his numbers.

[QUOTE=speedyjg13;14824648]You are correct.... he WAS. That boat has sailed.[/QUOTE]



Don’t get me wrong, I do think it’s possible to put together a very good career from here, but he will never be what Topps and everyone around MLB wanted.


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[QUOTE=jhssketchcards;14824955]Don’t get me wrong, I do think it’s possible to put together a very good career from here, but he will never be what Topps and everyone around MLB wanted.


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I think people will be very surprised how much better his numbers will be when the new rule changes take effect. He is one of the players that got destroyed by the league wide adoption of the shift, which MLB is going to be getting rid of to a certain degree. Add that to the 3 batter minimum for relievers and he is going to see a lot less lefty specialists in the late innings. His metrics are still excellent as far as exit velocity, etc.. The days of only the righty superstars being able to rake are coming to an end.

Yeah it's a good thing Yelich and Belli decided to turn around and hit right.

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[QUOTE=glassnickels;14825029]Yeah it's a good thing Yelich and Belli decided to turn around and hit right.

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See also
Cody Bellinger
Michael Brantley
Yordan Alvarez
And about 25-30 HOFers that were LH


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I think many of the top hitters all time are lefties.....especially considering the total percentage of them compared to righties.....really would pay for infielders to be righthanded but learn to hit from the left side.

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2019 Topps And The Curious Case of Bryce Harper
 

2nd in SOs in the NL. Sorry, not very beneficial to the conversation but I was once salty he left (Not anymore).

I’m sure he’ll start signing more eventually.

[QUOTE=Wiseysez;14823841]“Superstar”?[/QUOTE]

This times one million.

[QUOTE=HadWayTooMuch;14824573]I have to ask. What is your expectation for Harper to have him be a success?[/QUOTE]

He's the highest paid player in the league. Is it too high to expect him to be the best player in the league? He's not even Top 20 right now.

[QUOTE=HadWayTooMuch;14824573]I have to ask. What is your expectation for Harper to have him be a success?[/QUOTE]

58 HR 150 RBI 120 Walks 120 Runs .330 BA 50 SB :doh:

War....what is it good for? Absolutely nothing! :)!

[QUOTE=babybull;14825633]He's the highest paid player in the league.[/QUOTE]

He’s not even close to the highest AAV

He needs to be hitting at least 60 points higher with 10 more homers, and not be on pace to shatter his career high strikeout total (which he set last year) to be anything other than what he is, which is a semi-star, at best.

But he's on pace to win the Platinum Glove!