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Walt Altmen 05-01-2019 07:24 PM

Deflection: Robles and Albies?
 
Isn’t the art of magic in deflection? While everyone’s looking at Soto and Acuna, should we be making the Robles and Albies cards disappear instead? Dudes are throwing up the same numbers and actually playing tonight. Hitting and scoring too.

premium1981 05-01-2019 07:42 PM

Making the Robles and Ablies cards disappear instead? What does that mean? Both of those guys are solid contributors. Neither will be able to hold a candle to their teammates though.

ThoseBackPages 05-01-2019 07:44 PM

baseball good and baseball card good are not one in the same

Walt Altmen 05-01-2019 08:06 PM

[QUOTE=premium1981;14630276]Making the Robles and Ablies cards disappear instead? What does that mean? Both of those guys are solid contributors. Neither will be able to hold a candle to their teammates though.[/QUOTE]

Not trying to be cryptic here. I meant just what I said. Making them disappear. Similar to the Heritage Action Acuna cards that were mentioned in his thread. Similar to the Soto red update cards mentioned in his thread. Vanished, gone, caput. Nothing available on enay.

Vladdy Jr 05-01-2019 08:07 PM

[QUOTE=Walt Altmen;14630211]Isn’t the art of magic in deflection? While everyone’s looking at Soto and Acuna, should we be making the Robles and Albies cards disappear instead? Dudes are throwing up the same numbers and actually playing tonight. Hitting and scoring too.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely! You should always make drastic decisions when analyzing the month of April. Better yet, see who does better on Thursday and then make your decision.

LCM1223 05-01-2019 08:08 PM

Is your name Walt Altmen?

SirTommyWinAlot 05-01-2019 08:09 PM

Good players but it's Juanny vs. Ronald for the next 12 years.

Walt Altmen 05-01-2019 08:09 PM

[QUOTE=ThoseBackPages;14630285]baseball good and baseball card good are not one in the same[/QUOTE]

I understand this fully. But even and eventually Jerome Walton faded back under Mark Grace’s grace, right?

StraWMyerS 05-01-2019 08:10 PM

I don't know about everyone else, but I'm targeting the 2 you mentioned at the prices they are at relative to performance. There just isn't that much seperation statistically to justify paying 10x more for the big names right now, and they could easily come back to earth with a bad month or two, presenting a better buying opportunity anyway.

ThoseBackPages 05-01-2019 08:10 PM

[QUOTE=Walt Altmen;14630379]I understand this fully. But even and eventually Jerome Walton faded back under Mark Grace’s grace, right?[/QUOTE]

yes, he and Dwight both

Walt Altmen 05-01-2019 08:11 PM

[QUOTE=SirTommyWinAlot;14630377]Good players but it's Juanny vs. Ronald for the next 12 years.[/QUOTE]

Zen master says “We’ll see”.

ucLAkers 05-01-2019 08:12 PM

[QUOTE=LCM1223;14630376]Is your name Walt Altmen?[/QUOTE]

.com

Pretty cool name to just say at the end of every conversation....

Walt Altmen Out!

Walt Altmen 05-01-2019 08:16 PM

[QUOTE=ThoseBackPages;14630383]yes, he and Dwight both[/QUOTE]

Cheese and crackers! I forgot all about Dwight. But sort of helps my point.

After all, how many guys in the history of any sport (baseball, football, hockey, basketball) that go #1 or are the most hyped end up becoming the best of the best? Not many. 9.99 times out of 10, it’s the darkhorse not the hyped.

Walt Altmen out!

JrFinest 05-01-2019 08:16 PM

I've been buying Albies at low prices for awhile. Not concentrating on him ,but he certainly has a spot in my Braves collection.

Kids overshadowed but really good in his own right.

Walt Altmen 05-01-2019 08:25 PM

[QUOTE=Vladdy Jr;14630372]Absolutely! You should always make drastic decisions when analyzing the month of April. Better yet, see who does better on Thursday and then make your decision.[/QUOTE]

Aren’t you the guy that thought Cal Ripken, Jr. was the guy on ‘89 Fleer FF error card? Serious question.

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Walt Altmen 05-01-2019 08:35 PM

[QUOTE=StraWMyerS;14630382]I don't know about everyone else, but I'm targeting the 2 you mentioned at the prices they are at relative to performance. There just isn't that much seperation statistically to justify paying 10x more for the big names right now, and they could easily come back to earth with a bad month or two, presenting a better buying opportunity anyway.[/QUOTE]

Thank you. This was what I was sort of getting at. Not taking away from Acuna or Soto. I was just trying to ascertain if buying in on these two young guys who are putting up eerily similar numbers might be a good call. The fact that most are all in on Acuna or Soto further tells me that Robles and Albies might be a good call value wise.

Vladdy Jr 05-01-2019 08:47 PM

[QUOTE=Walt Altmen;14630462]Thank you. This was what I was sort of getting at. Not taking away from Acuna or Soto. I was just trying to ascertain if buying in on these two young guys who are putting up eerily similar numbers might be a good call. The fact that most are all in on Acuna or Soto further tells me that Robles and Albies might be a good call value wise.[/QUOTE]

You already provided the answer, pal. The only thing that will spoil your plan is injury. You can’t compare the “value” between the two groups.

Walt Altmen 05-01-2019 08:53 PM

[QUOTE=Vladdy Jr;14630515]You already provided the answer, pal. The only thing that will spoil your plan is injury. You can’t compare the “value” between the two groups.[/QUOTE]

No, I had to go back and look. Then edit and add. But being that the answer was a “yes” you will have to please pardon me if I look elsewhere for solid card advice. Thank you for your contribution though.

And in fact, I can compare values. It’s pretty easy, actually. It’s even easier to ascertain said value when the stats are comparable between all 4. The one thing I do not see that often in the Trout, Mantle or Jordan threads are the guys quoting themselves from back in the day then stating “Just got my new G6” or “Wrecked my 3rd Lambo this month”. Why? Guessing the likes of Dustin Ackley, Billy Johnson and Sam Bowie.

Vladdy Jr 05-01-2019 09:00 PM

[QUOTE=Walt Altmen;14630534]No, I had to go back and look. Then edit and add. But being that the answer was a “yes” you will have to please pardon me if I look elsewhere for solid card advice. Thank you for your contribution though.

Walt Altmen Out![/QUOTE]

Thank you. I will comment but I’ve learned quickly not to give advice in these forums.

WalterAZ31 05-01-2019 09:06 PM

definitely NOT a PBM....

Walt Altmen 05-01-2019 09:14 PM

Are you referring to me? And what is a PBM?

LCM1223 05-01-2019 09:21 PM

[QUOTE=Walt Altmen;14630606]And what is a PBM?[/QUOTE]

Woop there it is

ThoseBackPages 05-01-2019 09:25 PM

i love when the PBMs FITE!

Walt Altmen 05-01-2019 09:32 PM

[QUOTE=LCM1223;14630634]Woop there it is[/QUOTE]

There what is? Real intelligent conversation here. Guess that makes you a PFDBM.

LCM1223 05-01-2019 09:34 PM

[QUOTE=Walt Altmen;14630676]There what is? Real intelligent conversation here. Guess that makes you a PFDBM.[/QUOTE]

PBMs always ask what a PBM is

Walt Altmen 05-01-2019 09:39 PM

[QUOTE=LCM1223;14630682]PBMs always ask what a PBM is[/QUOTE]

Says a PFDBM. ‘Tis an easy game to play. What’s next? A PBM says what?

ThoseBackPages 05-01-2019 09:41 PM

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LCM1223 05-01-2019 09:50 PM

[QUOTE=Walt Altmen;14630700]Says a PFDBM. ‘Tis an easy game to play. What’s next? A PBM says what?[/QUOTE]

What is a PFDBM?

Walt Altmen 05-01-2019 09:52 PM

After reading a list of aycronyms the only 2 that really make sense are Proud Bald Member and Person Beneath Me. While I am bald, I am certainly not proud of it. But sorry if you are triggering me for hinting that Robles or Albies might be just as good as Acuna and Soto. If they or I am beneath you guys, then so be it. I am sorry if that offended you.

Walt Altmen 05-01-2019 09:53 PM

[QUOTE=LCM1223;14630733]What is a PFDBM?[/QUOTE]

A PFDBM always ask that!

jayjones82 05-02-2019 01:15 AM

I'm loading up on Albies and Robles stuff (mostly '18 Topps autos). I'm a big fan of both of these guys and think their stuff's discounted right now, because of Acuna and Soto. Soto's going to be the power hitter, but I think Robles will be the better all-around player.

CapeTownCards 05-02-2019 04:22 AM

[QUOTE=Walt Altmen;14630534]No, I had to go back and look. Then edit and add. But being that the answer was a “yes” you will have to please pardon me if I look elsewhere for solid card advice. Thank you for your contribution though.

[/QUOTE]
:)!

Walt, ignore the children. There are quite a few members on here that will be knowledgeable and can actually read. As for the others that are only interested in trolling... just ignore.
PBM = Previously Banned Member.
They are suggesting that you have been banned from the forum in the past and now you have created another account.
I guess it is up to you to convince the mob that you are who you say you are.

Sportnut08 05-02-2019 04:28 AM

Never mention another player(s) in the same breath as Acuna, Soto and Trout. Standard forum rules.

Walt Altmen 05-02-2019 11:07 AM

[QUOTE=CapeTownCards;14631168]:)!

Walt, ignore the children. There are quite a few members on here that will be knowledgeable and can actually read. As for the others that are only interested in trolling... just ignore.
PBM = Previously Banned Member.
They are suggesting that you have been banned from the forum in the past and now you have created another account.
I guess it is up to you to convince the mob that you are who you say you are.[/QUOTE]

Thank you! It all makes perfect sense now and my PFDBM joke even funnier.

Walt Altmen 05-02-2019 11:10 AM

[QUOTE=Sportnut08;14631169]Never mention another player(s) in the same breath as Acuna, Soto and Trout. Standard forum rules.[/QUOTE]

Until Vladdy-dodi starts tearing it up, right? Then we can forget about Soto and Acuna? That’s the pirañaic vibe I am getting. And Trout will never be replaced.

bradical 05-02-2019 11:21 AM

Robles flagship Topps RC can be found for under $1, even (much) cheaper when buying in bulk. As the front runner for the NL ROY (right now), you are poised to easily 2x-5x your money pretty quickly with such a low buy risk.

LCM1223 05-02-2019 01:09 PM

Cya Walt

I guess I'll never know what a PFDBM is :(

LVDan 05-02-2019 01:19 PM

Not big on candy bars but I do miss this one
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WalterAZ31 05-02-2019 02:13 PM

lmao so I was right?

brewtown107 05-02-2019 02:27 PM

Anyone get a look at his fake website before he took it down? Even though his "business" was clearly fake (with a vague, nonsensical description of the business itself, and a made-up business address on a street that doesn't actually exist) the website was more than a minimal amount of effort just to create a fake persona to post on here. PBMs sure don't want to quit this place.

bradical 05-02-2019 02:53 PM

[QUOTE=brewtown107;14632517]Anyone get a look at his fake website before he took it down? Even though his "business" was clearly fake (with a vague, nonsensical description of the business itself, and a made-up business address on a street that doesn't actually exist) the website was more than a minimal amount of effort just to create a fake persona to post on here. PBMs sure don't want to quit this place.[/QUOTE]

[url]https://altmens.com/[/url]

[url]https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1018183/new-member-and-looking-for-info[/url]

The best thing about this fake website is that they refer to their business as Altenators instead of Alternators.

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brewtown107 05-02-2019 03:18 PM

Ha, I thought it was down. I just had the url wrong.

ThoseBackPages 05-02-2019 03:22 PM

:cry:

CapeTownCards 05-02-2019 03:34 PM

Walt Walt Walt, why? Why? WHY? My faith in humanity shaken to the core... :(
Neeeexxxxxt... :):coffee:


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