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picojim 02-08-2019 12:48 PM

Man pretends Babe Ruth is real - gets "paper analyzed" & claims it is authenticated
 
[URL]https://abc30.com/sports/visalia-man-buys-$2-baseball-card-that-could-be-worth-millions/5124901[/URL]
he is about to be on radio too in the bay area 95.7 the game

mjohnatgt 02-08-2019 01:07 PM

[URL="http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=265493"]http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=265493[/URL]
Unless someone cracked the already slabbed one, this is a reprint.

metsandweezer 02-08-2019 01:11 PM

The guy’s crying about a fake baseball card lol

caflisch78 02-08-2019 01:14 PM

Crummy part is it sounds like this guy has now attached so much faith and emotion into a 2 dollar reprint that it's going to ruin his life. Crying and what not, c'mon man!

awz50 02-08-2019 01:18 PM

"I told him my family's welfare depends on it. Bidding starts at two million dollars," he said.

lol

shrevecity 02-08-2019 01:22 PM

From the same location as Jason Mars Sparks, Nevada.

rngrdanny22 02-08-2019 01:43 PM

"must be authenticated by Beckett"

Lol

dashcol 02-08-2019 02:03 PM

[QUOTE=shrevecity;14372064]From the same location as Jason Mars Sparks, Nevada.[/QUOTE]

It has to be someone connected to him. Or there is something terribly wrong in Sparks!

Bader 02-08-2019 02:09 PM

It’s not authentic until the antique paper authenticator in Sparks says it’s real wasn’t that how we got confirmation on the T206 Wagner that Mars bought

Soxfanguy 02-08-2019 02:23 PM

2 Million? The most expensive card EVER (PSA 9 52 Mantle) sold for 2.8 million so he isn't getting that

discostu 02-08-2019 02:24 PM

Fortunately they look similar too...maybe I'll need to create one for this kook as well.
[IMG]http://redblackred.com/freedumb/sad-propeller-head.png[/IMG]

Soxfanguy 02-08-2019 02:25 PM

Who/what is Jason Mars?

shrevecity 02-08-2019 02:25 PM

[QUOTE=Soxfanguy;14372297]Who/what is Jason Mars?[/QUOTE]

google

picojim 02-08-2019 02:32 PM

[URL="https://local12.com/news/offbeat/visalia-man-believes-his-two-dollar-babe-ruth-baseball-card-is-worth-millions"]https://local12.com/news/offbeat/visalia-man-believes-his-two-dollar-babe-ruth-baseball-card-is-worth-millions[/URL]
Ball called the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, New York and told him what he bought. "She told me I want to see that card as fast as you can get it to me. Same thing with every organization that's had the picture sent to them on this card. They've blown it up and looked for certain things on this card, certain marks."

awz50 02-08-2019 02:47 PM

[QUOTE=Soxfanguy;14372297]Who/what is Jason Mars?[/QUOTE]

[url]https://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/Rare-Find-Or-Fake-Baseball-Card-Claimed-Worth-100000s-275383891.html[/url]

caflisch78 02-08-2019 02:56 PM

LOL... how is this even a story if you haven't even tried to authenticate it yet? I took it to my buddy and he says it could be real so I won't sell it for less then 2 million dollars. Rent the card to the HOF? hahahahaha gtfoh

"They need to look at it and basically authenticate it. And that's the only way it's gonna be proven that card is real. It's so rare and no one knows anything about it."

Ball may rent the Babe Ruth card to the Hall of Fame but then again. "The only way I would sell this card is for the bidding to start at $2 million because to me I found the Mona Lisa."

Hollywood42 02-08-2019 02:57 PM

Yall are just a bunch of windowlickers, that thing is legit!

discostu 02-08-2019 03:01 PM

Let's just be happy that this guy created this silly story instead of claiming his son was trapped in a garbage can for 2 weeks while being fed by a kind racoon family.

We no longer have time to vet crazy...we just run with it.

BumBum 02-08-2019 03:01 PM

[QUOTE=caflisch78;14372431]LOL... how is this even a story if you haven't even tried to authenticate it yet? I took it to my buddy and he says it could be real so I won't sell it for less then 2 million dollars. Rent the card to the HOF? hahahahaha gtfoh[/QUOTE]

Must be a reeeeaaaaally slow news day, lol.

base set 02-08-2019 03:36 PM

[QUOTE=BumBum;14372459]Must be a reeeeaaaaally slow news day, lol.[/QUOTE]

Where I live a water pipe broke in the local police station the other day. 11 o'clock news had video.


Mighty white card is all I can say.

TimBuckTwo 02-08-2019 04:31 PM

At first I thought this thread was about Mason Jars.

Come on who else thought that too?

1989FF 02-08-2019 04:48 PM

[QUOTE=TimBuckTwo;14372719]At first I thought this thread was about Mason Jars.

Come on who else thought that too?[/QUOTE]


Speaking of Mason Jars...I bought a fake one the other day (internet auction). Fake mold and painted (red) from the inside. Never knew they had fakes of these until I researched. Crazy.

tonedef2oo8 02-08-2019 05:35 PM

Sparks Nevada is where the dolt Mars was from. And he got the stupid mews to report his story also. Hmmm

tonedef2oo8 02-08-2019 05:40 PM

For anyone who don’t know or remember

[url]https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=775002[/url]

tonedef2oo8 02-08-2019 05:44 PM

[QUOTE=picojim;14372330][URL="https://local12.com/news/offbeat/visalia-man-believes-his-two-dollar-babe-ruth-baseball-card-is-worth-millions"]https://local12.com/news/offbeat/visalia-man-believes-his-two-dollar-babe-ruth-baseball-card-is-worth-millions[/URL]
Ball called the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, New York and told him what he bought. "She told me I want to see that card as fast as you can get it to me. Same thing with every organization that's had the picture sent to them on this card. They've blown it up and looked for certain things on this card, certain marks."[/QUOTE]

There is little doubt this is Jason mars or some moron copying his story after reading that, that’s the same crap he said. But his was someone at “eBay”

picojim 02-08-2019 05:45 PM

his interview on 95.7 the game , go to 33:30 mark
[URL="https://957thegame.radio.com/media/audio-channel/jld-2819-final-hour-tim-roye"]https://957thegame.radio.com/media/audio-channel/jld-2819-final-hour-tim-roye[/URL]

motu79 02-08-2019 05:50 PM

[QUOTE=tonedef2oo8;14372909]For anyone who don’t know or remember

[url]https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=775002[/url][/QUOTE]


That was the best thread Mouschi ever started! haha

I kid, I kid! :)

mouschi 02-13-2019 08:40 PM

[QUOTE=motu79;14372934]That was the best thread Mouschi ever started! haha

I kid, I kid! :)[/QUOTE]

LOL! I wouldn't necessarily say anything against that! :p:p:p

bwalter1 02-13-2019 09:22 PM

[QUOTE=discostu;14372457]Let's just be happy that this guy created this silly story instead of claiming [b]his son was trapped in a garbage can for 2 weeks while being fed by a kind racoon family.[/b]

We no longer have time to vet crazy...we just run with it.[/QUOTE]


Lol I can't stop laughing at this.

Stifle 02-13-2019 09:57 PM

Another Jason Mars, didn't realize there was a first Jason Mars.

tonedef2oo8 02-14-2019 10:37 AM

[QUOTE=picojim;14372921]his interview on 95.7 the game , go to 33:30 mark
[URL="https://957thegame.radio.com/media/audio-channel/jld-2819-final-hour-tim-roye"]https://957thegame.radio.com/media/audio-channel/jld-2819-final-hour-tim-roye[/URL][/QUOTE]

Collecting cards his whole life, yet calls it a “remake” . Seems legit

picojim 02-14-2019 05:24 PM

Ball says he's received, and turned down, three multi-million dollar offers to buy the card.
:cry:
[url]https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2019/02/14/rare-babe-ruth-card-bought-two-dollars-newsource-orig-jr.cnn[/url]

caflisch78 02-14-2019 05:26 PM

It's been Authenticated??? Where is the holder??

majestik101 02-15-2019 02:45 AM

[QUOTE=picojim;14390601]Ball says he's received, and turned down, three multi-million dollar offers to buy the card.
:cry:
[url]https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2019/02/14/rare-babe-ruth-card-bought-two-dollars-newsource-orig-jr.cnn[/url][/QUOTE]

Dude's a liar. He knows what he has is a fake and is just trying to sell his story to the masses. Funny.

Guy seems like a kook. Oh well he got his 15 minutes of fame, he'll probably be weighing blasters at the Visalia Wal-Mart soon.

WizardofOz1982 02-15-2019 08:09 AM

[QUOTE=caflisch78;14390610]It's been Authenticated??? Where is the holder??[/QUOTE]

Authenticated but he has a 2.5 million dollar card in a top load that they then put inside a screw down. Okay....

tonedef2oo8 02-15-2019 11:38 AM

Jason Mars was “authenticated” also. First some eBay rep then some sketchy pawn shop owner. Both where lies...

scotthenrichs 02-15-2019 11:39 AM

I just can't believe reputable media was duped that this was actually a story. This is literally fake news.

salthill 02-15-2019 11:48 AM

another Jason Mars?
 
Edited. Watching the clip he looks like he did just enough research to see dollar signs. Always dangerous.

superdan49 02-15-2019 02:52 PM

[QUOTE=picojim;14390601]Ball says he's received, and turned down, three multi-million dollar offers to buy the card.
:cry:
[url]https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2019/02/14/rare-babe-ruth-card-bought-two-dollars-newsource-orig-jr.cnn[/url][/QUOTE]

Very fake news.

picojim 02-27-2019 01:55 AM

update:
The authentication process of the Babe Ruth card in question is not yet complete, he also buy a collection which he calls "mother lode" with Lorenzo Neal (the ex-football player)

[url]https://abc30.com/sports/visalia-man-continues-authentication-process-for-babe-ruth-memorabilia-card/5158849/[/url]

callou2131 02-27-2019 08:12 AM

I miss Jason Mars. I still have his t206 propeller head card. He was so much fun to troll. I firmly believe he actually believed his own stupidity.

ksemmel 02-27-2019 08:23 AM

[url]http://www.thesungazette.com/article/news/2019/02/13/dale-ball-lucks-into-ultra-rare-babe-ruth-baseball-card-worth-millions/[/url]

Tell me he doesn't look like Mars a little bit?

callou2131 02-27-2019 08:27 AM

Took the guys on net54 about 3 minutes to see it was a fake. A member there owns or owned the only authenticated ruth from that set. There is a tear on it on the right hand side. This card, they printed the tear into the card.
[url]http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p=1858587&posted=1#post1858587[/url]

discostu 02-27-2019 12:46 PM

[QUOTE=callou2131;14428940]I miss Jason Mars. I still have his t206 propeller head card. He was so much fun to troll. I firmly believe he actually believed his own stupidity.[/QUOTE]

Very rare. In fact, even more rare than authentic 206 Wagners.

glen87 02-27-2019 12:52 PM

[QUOTE=ksemmel;14428959][url]http://www.thesungazette.com/article/news/2019/02/13/dale-ball-lucks-into-ultra-rare-babe-ruth-baseball-card-worth-millions/[/url]

Tell me he doesn't look like Mars a little bit?[/QUOTE]

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/577383913607143424/tirT1T_F_400x400.jpeg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.thesungazette.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/pd-Front-Million_Dollar_Card.png[/IMG]

glen87 02-27-2019 12:53 PM

can we get a dual propellorhead card????



PLEASEEEEEEE

discostu 02-27-2019 01:00 PM

[QUOTE=glen87;14429670]can we get a dual propellorhead card????



PLEASEEEEEEE[/QUOTE]

I'll work on it tonight.

I need to think of some other print variations as well.

glen87 02-27-2019 01:04 PM

[QUOTE=discostu;14429690]I'll work on it tonight.

I need to think of some other print variations as well.[/QUOTE]

you could go with the ever favorite $$$$$ background parallel

or the dreaming big subset


or just keep it simple.....

[IMG]https://rlv.zcache.com/doofus_club_trucker_hat-r086b6e51230e4f58bd8edc3324ede896_eahwi_8byvr_307.jpg?rvtype=content[/IMG]

discostu 02-27-2019 02:10 PM

I'll work up a dual, but in the meantime...
[img]https://i.ibb.co/dL8Mm4G/propellerhead-2.jpg[/img]

crose 03-29-2019 10:22 AM

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-man-who-bought-babe-ruth-baseball-card-for-2-could-be-auctioned-for-up-to-4-5m-report-says[/url]

Cliff notes: the card is authenticated because fibers in the paper and ink are consistent with cards of that time period according to Fresno State professor John Pryor. An auction house has stated bidding would start at 1.5 million and could bring in as much as 4.5 million, but Ball doesn’t want to sell because the card deserves to be on a wall in Yankee stadium next to Ruth’s statue.

Callmethevreez 03-29-2019 11:34 AM

The $2 Babe Ruth card turns out to be real
 
I remember someone posting the original story but I could not find it when I searched for it. Turns out to be real. Wow.

Feel free to merge, etc if this has already been posted.

dictoresno 03-29-2019 11:40 AM

ill believe it when I see it in a slab

jstephens24 03-29-2019 11:44 AM

that's what I am wondering. he sent it off to a lab to check ink and fabric...why didn't he just send to psa

dictoresno 03-29-2019 11:47 AM

[QUOTE=jstephens24;14522176]that's what I am wondering. he sent it off to a lab to check ink and fabric...why didn't he just send to psa[/QUOTE]

"lab"

cubfan131 03-29-2019 11:49 AM

[URL="https://abc7.com/society/california-mans-$2-babe-ruth-card-could-fetch-him-more-than-$45-million-experts-confirm/5223767/"]https://abc7.com/society/california-mans-$2-babe-ruth-card-could-fetch-him-more-than-$45-million-experts-confirm/5223767/[/URL]

PatchSentinel 03-29-2019 11:49 AM

[QUOTE=jstephens24;14522176]that's what I am wondering. he sent it off to a lab to check ink and fabric...why didn't he just send to psa[/QUOTE]

I agree. And apparently he has a ton of other old cards, including PSA slabs, so he isn't ignorant of the market.

discostu 03-29-2019 11:51 AM

[QUOTE=crose;14521961][url]https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-man-who-bought-babe-ruth-baseball-card-for-2-could-be-auctioned-for-up-to-4-5m-report-says[/url]

Cliff notes: the card is authenticated because fibers in the paper and ink are consistent with cards of that time period according to Fresno State professor John Pryor. An auction house has stated bidding would start at 1.5 million and could bring in as much as 4.5 million, but Ball doesn’t want to sell because the card deserves to be on a wall in Yankee stadium next to Ruth’s statue.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure who the biggest idiots are here...propellerhead, the poor forensic anthropologist or the nitwit reporters who give this clown a platform.

cubfan131 03-29-2019 11:51 AM

"Fresno State Anthropology professor John Pryor studies items such as Native American artifacts. Baseball cards are new to him but he analyzed the lab results of the Babe Ruth card. "

:cry::cry::doh::doh::doh:

discostu 03-29-2019 11:51 AM

[QUOTE=Callmethevreez;14522145]I remember someone posting the original story but I could not find it when I searched for it. Turns out to be real. Wow.

Feel free to merge, etc if this has already been posted.[/QUOTE]

It's not real.

pskell02 03-29-2019 11:53 AM

Good for him.

3124508 on COMC 03-29-2019 11:56 AM

[QUOTE=cubfan131;14522199]"Fresno State Anthropology professor John Pryor studies items such as Native American artifacts. Baseball cards are new to him but he analyzed the lab results of the Babe Ruth card. "

:cry::cry::doh::doh::doh:[/QUOTE]

Sounds like all the "Forensic Document Analysts" from Operation Bullpen.

caflisch78 03-29-2019 11:59 AM

[QUOTE=dictoresno;14522160]ill believe it when I see it in a slab[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Since when does a card collector need to take it to a lab for testing? I'm calling BS until I see a PSA/BGS holder.

discostu 03-29-2019 12:09 PM

[QUOTE=caflisch78;14522214]Exactly. Since when does a card collector need to take it to a lab for testing? I'm calling BS until I see a PSA/BGS holder.[/QUOTE]

You'll never see it in a PSA, SGC or BGS slab because it isn't real.

The owner of the card knows this...the mental halfwits furthering his charade may or may not know.

Having a forensic anthropologist only adds to the lunacy, and lends as much credence to the story as a single-toothed gas station attendant with an amazing Beanie Baby collection.

So again, in big, bold letters...[B][SIZE="7"]THE CARD IS NOT REAL![/SIZE][/B]

caflisch78 03-29-2019 12:13 PM

Holeheartedly agree... the entire story is asinine.

mrdallas 03-29-2019 12:20 PM

Come on all. When he nearly breaks down in tears because of his AMAZING find, isn't that proof enough that he is telling the truth? SMH.

Callmethevreez 03-29-2019 12:56 PM

[QUOTE=discostu;14522236]You'll never see it in a PSA, SGC or BGS slab because it isn't real.

The owner of the card knows this...the mental halfwits furthering his charade may or may not know.

Having a forensic anthropologist only adds to the lunacy, and lends as much credence to the story as a single-toothed gas station attendant with an amazing Beanie Baby collection.

So again, in big, bold letters...[B][SIZE="7"]THE CARD IS NOT REAL![/SIZE][/B][/QUOTE]

Fair point. I was just going by the news story. That's what I get for listening to the media!

gmarutiak 03-29-2019 01:42 PM

I like that he says that selling the card will fix his family, but he's not going to sell it, because he has a bunch of other valuable cards he's going to sell.

discostu 03-29-2019 01:48 PM

[QUOTE=Callmethevreez;14522341]Fair point. I was just going by the news story. That's what I get for listening to the media![/QUOTE]

No, don't make this a "media" thing.

This is about critical thinking.

You're in this hobby. You know enough to not give credence to a story simply because an article quotes a random college professor stating that the paper and ink appear to be from the right era.

Nothing about this professor would give anyone the impression that his opinion would matter regarding the authenticity or the dating of this card.

Callmethevreez 03-29-2019 01:59 PM

[QUOTE=discostu;14522495]No, don't make this a "media" thing.

This is about critical thinking.

You're in this hobby. You know enough to not give credence to a story simply because an article quotes a random college professor stating that the paper and ink appear to be from the right era.

Nothing about this professor would give anyone the impression that his opinion would matter regarding the authenticity or the dating of this card.[/QUOTE]

Point taken, thanks.

shrevecity 03-29-2019 03:11 PM

[QUOTE=dictoresno;14522160]ill believe it when I see it in a slab[/QUOTE]

Same here, if all they did was check the paper that can be just as easily faked as the card itself. All they would need is similar stock to what was used in the real card.

dictoresno 03-29-2019 04:20 PM

The findings don’t mean anything. So I can take a piece of ancient papyrus paper from Egypt and draw the Blues Brothers on it, does that make it from King Tut himself?


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discostu 03-29-2019 04:36 PM

Again...look at the source.

A forensic anthropologist is great if you're Horatio Caine and you found some bones in a swamp...but we're not dealing with the corpse of Babe Ruth, we're dealing with a baseball card.

Nothing about this specific anthropologist implies that he'd be a source of credible opinion regarding this card, and nothing about forensic anthropology implies that there's even a reason to ask any anthropologist about the authenticity of this card.

Asking this professor's opinion on the age of the card makes as much sense as asking my 5 year old about supramolecular polymers.

This is another silly hoax perpetrated by someone who knows exactly what they have and what they don't have.

vwnut13 03-29-2019 04:39 PM

[QUOTE=cubfan131;14522199]"Fresno State Anthropology professor John Pryor studies items such as Native American artifacts. Baseball cards are new to him but he analyzed the lab results of the Babe Ruth card. "

:cry::cry::doh::doh::doh:[/QUOTE]

The verdict is in!

John Pryer confirms that Elizabeth Warren is a Native American!

tjforce 03-29-2019 05:10 PM

DAMMIT!


Every time I start to come out of the closet as a card collector and feel okay about letting my friends and coworkers know, some clown like this comes along and makes us all look like dopes.

Next time I tell me friends that i really actually did flip some $100 Lebron card for $1,000, I'm sure they'll think "ya ya, just like that idiot and his $4.5 million dollar Babe Ruth card".

Saraste 03-29-2019 07:53 PM

I'm surprised that nobody mentioned that Mars and the other guy look related. Cousins maybe?


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