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I'm just putting it in this forum because I'll forget it if I dont.


[QUOTE]BlowoutTV is hosting a 1973 Topps Baseball Box break Friday night at 10pm EDT. The break is already full but you can watch this epic box break for the entertainment value alone! This break will be historic! Honestly, when was the last time you saw a box from the early 70s broken?[/QUOTE]

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who of you bought into break?

Have three scrubs (but one has only 1 PSA 10 example and another has 0). Will enjoy watching the break.

[QUOTE=mjohnatgt;10913291]Have three scrubs (but one has only 1 PSA 10 example and another has 0). Will enjoy watching the break.[/QUOTE]

For the price of the spots, anything short of a 10 or a very key player in 8 or 9 is a loser.

Sure, the vast majority will either get no card or an off-centered common worth 50 cents.

[QUOTE=mjohnatgt;10913464]Sure, the vast majority will either get no card or an off-centered common worth 50 cents.[/QUOTE]

how much did they put in to be in this?

[QUOTE=HadWayTooMuch;10913459]For the price of the spots, anything short of a 10 or a very key player in 8 or 9 is a loser.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, price-wise maybe, but that's OK.

I'm up to 35 or 36 spots

[QUOTE=biletnikoff;10913492]how much did they put in to be in this?[/QUOTE]

$17.50 per spot.

I would watch this but I'll be doing something much more exciting like watching water boil, paint dry, or golf. :D

But good luck to those involved.

I cannot believe the uproar over Prospect Rush but no one complained about this scam.
A PSA 7 pack goes for $170 on ebay yet people chipped in $11k for this break.

$17 a spot to maybe get a player to maybe get it pulled and hopefully its in unbelievable condition.

1973 Topps PSA pack $170 (11 spots)
1973 Topps set $250-$300 (15-18 spots)
PSA 8 Schmidt $350 (20 spots)

Blowout Buzz loves to pull up the Bobby Murcer PSA 10
the Danny Walton PSA 10 went for $184
The Giants team card went for $111
The Jim Wiloughby PSA 10 went for $39 dollars $39 DOLLARS (3 spots)

This is an awful awful break no matter what comes out of it.
Everyone is a loser here. Everyone

[QUOTE=BigDan502;10914106]I cannot believe the uproar over Prospect Rush but no one complained about this scam.
A PSA 7 pack goes for $170 on ebay yet people chipped in $11k for this break.

$17 a spot to maybe get a player to maybe get it pulled and hopefully its in unbelievable condition.

1973 Topps PSA pack $170 (11 spots)
1973 Topps set $250-$300 (15-18 spots)
PSA 8 Schmidt $350 (20 spots)

Blowout Buzz loves to pull up the Bobby Murcer PSA 10
the Danny Walton PSA 10 went for $184
The Giants team card went for $111
The Jim Wiloughby PSA 10 went for $39 dollars $39 DOLLARS (3 spots)

This is an awful awful break no matter what comes out of it.
Everyone is a loser here. Everyone[/QUOTE]

A set for 250? What condition is this set in? This is an unopened box, of course it's going to be expensive

[QUOTE=Eckstein197;10914117]A set for 250? What condition is this set in? This is an unopened box, of course it's going to be expensive[/QUOTE]

you can get 73 PSA 7 packs for $11k
how many boxes is that?

[QUOTE=IUjapander;10913785]I would watch this but I'll be doing something much more exciting like watching water boil, paint dry, or golf. :D

But good luck to those involved.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=BigDan502;10914135]you can get 73 PSA 7 packs for $11k
how many boxes is that?[/QUOTE]

Three. You do know a psa 7 pack means that the pack has wear to the point that it's a 7. Odds of hitting an 8 is slim to none. BBCE is also the #1 source for vintage wax. Most of the psa packs you can see the first and last card. An unopened box is equivalent to packs in psa 9 condition at the very least. Again, most of those have the top and bottom showing.

Should people have probably paid 10 times what they paid here for a psa 8 Schmidt? Sure. You could say that about almost anything.

BBCE is reasonably priced. If you would rather gamble on "unsearched" vintage wax, go for it.

Part of the price issue is the fact you are paying for the rarity of a complete unsearched box like this. There are a ton of unopened collectors out there and it puts a major premium on these due to scarcity. The single card value is rough, it's the unopened box that's worth the coin. In my opinion, it's kind of sad to see this opened. Especially in this type of format. People are and will be dumping spots.

I'm just not buying the value for the people in the break.
$11,000 was dumped into this by people on this board and at best how much legitimate value is coming out of this?

I read countless threads about ROI and people constantly about about value.
I don't buy that the search is for a PSA 10 common. They go pretty cheap on ebay.

The result is a lot of people thinking , oh well , it was only $17 so they're not that angry about it.

Did any PSA 10 Schmidts come out of this?

Dan is right, but who am I to tell people what to waste their money on?

It's breaking right now HadWayTooMuch.

[QUOTE=HadWayTooMuch;10914410]Did any PSA 10 Schmidts come out of this?

Dan is right, but who am I to tell people what to waste their money on?[/QUOTE]

nothing yet

a Clemente, Frank Robinson and Babe Ruth…………with horribly off center backs so far

centering especially on the back is a huge issue.

uh oh Thurman Munson on the wax
thats a stain grade and its off center

The backs of these cards are so off center I'm surprised theres not another card coming through the top………oh…..and theres one now

[QUOTE=cruiserdaddy7;10914268]Part of the price issue is the fact you are paying for the rarity of a complete unsearched box like this. There are a ton of unopened collectors out there and it puts a major premium on these due to scarcity. The single card value is rough, it's the unopened box that's worth the coin. [B]In my opinion, it's kind of sad to see this opened.[/B] Especially in this type of format. People are and will be dumping spots.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, sad and this will only benefit the handful of people that have some unopened 1973 stuff, lol.

Wow, the back centering is brutal...

This is going to be a blood bath

$458 Pack 9

double common pack…..score lucky people are going to get 2 off centered commons

$458 Pack 10

Red Sox Team Card 90\10 back
nothing else notable

I think more people made a profit on Prospect Rush then will make a profit on this break!

Not that it isn't cool to watch though.

I don't know much about vintage. Why was the centering/quality control so bad? What years did Topps improve the quality?

$458 Pack 11

Ed Karnepool "card might be worth grading" he says. Hopefully PSA doesn't turn the card over.

[QUOTE=Pearce77;10914461]I don't know much about vintage. Why was the centering/quality control so bad? What years did Topps improve the quality?[/QUOTE]

like the late 90s

$458 Pack 12

The BOBBY MURCER…..oh no "it's got a bit of a stain on it" he says
Dwight Evans rookie…..nice…….really off center but nice

The butchering of the names is making this really tough to watch.

Dave "Gee Us Tee." Really?

Doesn't PSA call a card "OC" if the back is off centered?

He just called the Bonham card a possible PSA 10 and the card is 90/10 on the back.

Anyone?

$458 Pack 13

He's now asking for donations to eat the gum.
An $11k donation has already been made sir.

Rollie Fingers

[QUOTE=HadWayTooMuch;10914480]Doesn't PSA call a card "OC" if the back is off centered?

He just called the Bonham card a possible PSA 10 and the card is 90/10 on the back.

Anyone?[/QUOTE]

He's trying to paint a glass half full picture of the train wreck we're watching.

This is first time I've heard Houdini. Guess I thought he would sound like Darth Vader.

$458 Pack 14

maybe they can put the cards back in the packs, iron them shut, have BBCE reseal it and do it again on SCF.

Gary Mathews rookie
Willie McCovey 75\25 front , back is worse
Allie Rodriguez " a liiittttlllee bit off centered" the picture is off the top of the card lol


$17 a spot
$44 a card people

The person with Clemente can almost break even with 2 hellaciously off center back cards pulled.

Can someone answer my question about grading. If the back is 80/20, can a card be a PSA 10?

$458 Pack 15

Roberto Clemente #2, this one has a ding and the back is off center
Willie McCovey #2

GEM-MT 10: Gem Mint
A PSA Gem Mint 10 card is a virtually perfect card. Attributes include four perfectly sharp corners, sharp focus and full original gloss. A PSA Gem Mint 10 card must be free of staining of any kind, but an allowance may be made for a slight printing imperfection, if it doesn't impair the overall appeal of the card. The image must be centered on the card within a tolerance not to exceed approximately 55/45 to 60/40 percent on the front, and 75/25 percent on the reverse.
MINT 9: Mint
A PSA Mint 9 is a superb condition card that exhibits only one of the following minor flaws: a very slight wax stain on reverse, a minor printing imperfection or slightly off-white borders. Centering must be approximately 60/40 to 65/35 or better on the front and 90/10 or better on the reverse.
NM-MT 8: Near Mint-Mint
A PSA NM-MT 8 is a super high-end card that appears Mint 9 at first glance, but upon closer inspection, the card can exhibit the following: a very slight wax stain on reverse, slightest fraying at one or two corners, a minor printing imperfection, and/or slightly off-white borders. Centering must be approximately 65/35 to 70/30 or better on the front and 90/10 or better on the reverse.

$458 Pack 16

no one of note

[QUOTE=BigDan502;10914510]GEM-MT 10: Gem Mint
A PSA Gem Mint 10 card is a virtually perfect card. Attributes include four perfectly sharp corners, sharp focus and full original gloss. A PSA Gem Mint 10 card must be free of staining of any kind, but an allowance may be made for a slight printing imperfection, if it doesn't impair the overall appeal of the card. The image must be centered on the card within a tolerance not to exceed approximately 55/45 to 60/40 percent on the front, and 75/25 percent on the reverse.
MINT 9: Mint
A PSA Mint 9 is a superb condition card that exhibits only one of the following minor flaws: a very slight wax stain on reverse, a minor printing imperfection or slightly off-white borders. Centering must be approximately 60/40 to 65/35 or better on the front and 90/10 or better on the reverse.
NM-MT 8: Near Mint-Mint
A PSA NM-MT 8 is a super high-end card that appears Mint 9 at first glance, but upon closer inspection, the card can exhibit the following: a very slight wax stain on reverse, slightest fraying at one or two corners, a minor printing imperfection, and/or slightly off-white borders. Centering must be approximately 65/35 to 70/30 or better on the front and 90/10 or better on the reverse.[/QUOTE]

Will it get the "OC" label if it's 90/10 on the back?

$458 Pack 17

$44 a card is what the board members chipped in to pay for this break

no one of note

[QUOTE=HadWayTooMuch;10914480]Doesn't PSA call a card "OC" if the back is off centered?

He just called the Bonham card a possible PSA 10 and the card is 90/10 on the back.

Anyone?[/QUOTE]

PSA does have qualifiers. 70-90 sets had of problems. But the 73 was a special set as it had the last Clemente card

$458 Pack 18

really pumping the checklist at this point in the break.
The checklist might be the hit of the break so far.

Mickey Rivers

this break is reminding me of the Jason Bay contract

[QUOTE=HadWayTooMuch;10914515]Will it get the "OC" label if it's 90/10 on the back?[/QUOTE]

Dont think it gets an OC tag, but will be graded down

$458 Pack 19

Reggie Jackson ….wax
Ryan \ Carlton …..acknowledgement of bad centering

It's the Len Bias of group breaks

[QUOTE=iluvfish2;10914530]Dont think it gets an OC tag, but will be graded down[/QUOTE]

I think it's wrong that he's misleading people saying a card might be a PSA 10 if it's 90/10 or worse on the back.

$458 Pack 20

nothing special

[QUOTE=HadWayTooMuch;10914535]I think it's wrong that he's misleading people saying a card might be a PSA 10 if it's 90/10 or worse on the back.[/QUOTE]

He's not a professional grader. How is that any different than people's eBay listings stating "mint"?

$458 Pack 21

finally some money coming out of this break…….Don Money
2nd Dwight Evans

What does 'the wax' mean? Is it a different finish on the card? Or is just the outside card in the pack?

[QUOTE=rngrdanny22;10914545]He's not a professional grader. How is that any different than people's eBay listings stating "mint"?[/QUOTE]

It's actually a good question. the problem to me is it sounds like desperate justification.

[QUOTE=possom813;10914556]What does 'the wax' mean? Is it a different finish on the card? Or is just the outside card in the pack?[/QUOTE]

Outside cards on the pack get a little wax transferred from the wrappers.

He may be going on the corners and edges and not realize where the centering needs to be. He's a breaker not a grader and people know what they were getting when they joined the break.

[QUOTE=cruiserdaddy7;10914268]Part of the price issue is the fact you are paying for the rarity of a complete [B]unsearched box [/B]like this. There are a ton of unopened collectors out there and it puts a major premium on these due to scarcity. The single card value is rough, it's the [B]unopened[/B] box that's worth the coin. In my opinion, it's kind of sad to see this opened. Especially in this type of format. People are and will be dumping spots.[/QUOTE]

Because of the cellophane wrap on the box right?

[QUOTE=BigDan502;10914519]$458 Pack 17

$44 a card is what the board members chipped in to pay for this break

no one of note[/QUOTE]

I love the 73 set..it is by far my favorite. I looked at this break, and I could come up up with only one name that made the break worth it (I really don't care if I pull a PSA 9 Lindy McDaniel)...I have plenty of Dave Giusti's already..

$458 Pack 22

whooosh
more of nothing

$458 Pack 23

this reminds me of Brewsters Millions when he licked the stamp.

nothing

[QUOTE=Pearce77;10914461]I don't know much about vintage. Why was the centering/quality control so bad? What years did Topps improve the quality?[/QUOTE]

Upper Deck was the game changer.

No Schmidt's to be found.

final $458 Pack

on the wax………Nolan Ryan…….90\10 back
Jeter…..Johnny Jeter
and a Bob Boone teased at the end like it was a joke..

$11000
$44 a card
$17 a spot

everybody loses

closer to $46 a card but whats a couple extra bucks at this point

Wow...just wow...

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the second the first 2 cards were turned around you knew the entire box was off cut

So how much can i buy the wrappers for so that I can buy mint cards and sell them as a "sealed" box again?


(Just kidding guys)

[QUOTE=BigDan502;10914595]final $458 Pack

on the wax………Nolan Ryan…….90\10 back
Jeter…..Johnny Jeter
and a Bob Boone teased at the end like it was a joke..

$11000
$44 a card
$17 a spot

everybody loses[/QUOTE]


At least a single person didn't lose $11K. I for one was in at $35. I'm content with what I spent and knew what the risks were (as I'm sure most of the others are). Based on your posts, I get the strong impression you're in this hobby for the money and to make a profit. Some of us aren't.

[QUOTE=BigDan502;10914619]the second the first 2 cards were turned around you knew the entire box was off cut[/QUOTE]

In my mind I envisioned a Wall Street trader yelling "sell, sell, sell". But it was already to late to move on this investment.

[QUOTE=rngrdanny22;10914635]At least a single person didn't lose $11K. I for one was in at $35. I'm content with what I spent and knew what the risks were (as I'm sure most of the others are). Based on your posts, I get the strong impression you're in this hobby for the money and to make a profit. Some of us aren't.[/QUOTE]

absolutely terrible way to look at things.
You spent $35 and you got nothing you wanted in return.

This entire break was about money and the gamble so please spare me the holier than thou, this is a hobby speech

[QUOTE=rngrdanny22;10914635]At least a single person didn't lose $11K. I for one was in at $35. I'm content with what I spent and knew what the risks were (as I'm sure most of the others are). Based on your posts, I get the strong impression you're in this hobby for the money and to make a profit. Some of us aren't.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. The constant bashing was unnecessary and quite immature.

[QUOTE=notsublime;10914642]In my mind I envisioned a Wall Street trader yelling "sell, sell, sell". But it was already to late to move on this investment.[/QUOTE]

now thats funny.


hmmmmm. Anacott Steel

[QUOTE=BigDan502;10914651]absolutely terrible way to look at things.
You spent $35 and you got nothing you wanted in return.

This entire break was about money and the gamble so please spare me the holier than thou, this is a hobby speech[/QUOTE]

This break really seems to have bothered you. I'm pretty sure everyone knew what they were getting into.

$35 spent here for 2 spots.....didn't hit either of my "commons", but that was a lot of fun to watch!!! Would like for them to do something similar at a point in the near future!

The break bothered me because people trashed the Prospect Rush guy for months.
They destroy Topps when Tribute happens or they sell Finest direct.
God forbid a redemption doesn't get fulfilled.

not a peep for this though

[QUOTE=BigDan502;10914656]now thats funny.


hmmmmm. Anacott Steel[/QUOTE]

Yea! Something like that.