[QUOTE=Siberian13;19680411]His odds can go up but just don’t see him having much of chance this year. Maybe in the future.[/QUOTE]

I didn't say he would win. Plus people forget that this is a year long contest. Mahomes has low odds right now not because of how he's playing now but because people have seen him year after year get better as the year goes on.

But just so we can compare tomorrow -

Jackson - +275
Allen - +370
Mahomes +500
Goff +800
Daniels +1000
Stroud +1300
Love +1700
Burrow +1700
Murray +1800
Hurts +1800

[QUOTE=kluke84;19680413]It should be based on play on the field, not bets.

AR had a 32% completion rate and they barely won[/QUOTE]

Again, sharps aren't betting on what qb's have done so far. They are betting on what they think they'll do. And like it or not, it isn't often that the betting favorite doesn't win.

Still loving Goff at +800

Jalen Hurts +2000 has entered the race now surpassing Love, Purdy and Burrow on fanduel

Updated odds

Josh and Lamar swap: Allen +270, Lamar +370, Pattie Cakes +500, Goff +600....and surprise entrants...Daniels +900 and Stroud +1300

[QUOTE=cdub6238;19682626]Updated odds

Josh and Lamar swap: Allen +270, Lamar +370, Pattie Cakes +500, Goff +600....and surprise entrants...Daniels +900 and Stroud +1300[/QUOTE]

Josh at front! As I predictedand as it should be. If Bills beat chiefs next week Josh will be even money

Glad to see Allen his some respect back on top.

If the Bills beat the Chiefs next week, I'd bet that Allen just gets in MVP then and there, because the Bills don't play the Chiefs next week, they play them November 17.

Now that someone with a fully functional brain has looked at the schedule, I'll point out that Bills should have a few high profile games toward the second half of the season:

-Nov 17: Chiefs
-Dec 1: 49ers
-Dec 15: @ Lions


Lines up pretty good for him. Home, Home after bye, then the tough one in Detroit.

[QUOTE=tjforce;19683200]Glad to see Allen his some respect back on top.

If the Bills beat the Chiefs next week, I'd bet that Allen just gets in MVP then and there, because the Bills don't play the Chiefs next week, they play them November 17.

Now that someone with a fully functional brain has looked at the schedule, I'll point out that Bills should have a few high profile games toward the second half of the season:

-Nov 17: Chiefs
-Dec 1: 49ers
-Dec 15: @ Lions


Lines up pretty good for him. Home, Home after bye, then the tough one in Detroit.[/QUOTE]

I dont have the schedule on top of my head, so I guess I dont have functional brain but even if they lose to Lions and get 13-4 records they'll still hand it to him

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[QUOTE=cdub6238;19682626]Updated odds

Josh and Lamar swap: Allen +270, Lamar +370, Pattie Cakes +500, Goff +600....and surprise entrants...Daniels +900 and Stroud +1300[/QUOTE]


Let’s look at the stats:

Josh Allen 14td- 1int, 1774 passing yards, 204 rushing yards, team record 6-2

Lamar Jackson: 17td- 2int, 2,099 passing yards, 501 rushing yards, team record 5-3

Jared Goff 13td- 4int, 1695 passing yards, 18 rushing yards, team record 6-1

Jayden Daniels 7td-2int, 1736 passing yards, 424 rushing yards, team record 6-2

Patrick Mahomes 8td-9int, 1651 passing yards, 139 rushing yards, team record 7-0

Cj stroud 11td-4int, 1948 passing yards, 84 rushing yards, team record 6-2

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[QUOTE=cardsharkk;19684184]Let’s look at the stats:

Josh Allen 14td- 1int, 1774 passing yards, 204 rushing yards, team record 6-2

Lamar Jackson: 17td- 2int, 2,099 passing yards, 501 rushing yards, team record 5-3

Jared Goff 13td- 4int, 1695 passing yards, 18 rushing yards, team record 6-1

Jayden Daniels 7td-2int, 1736 passing yards, 424 rushing yards, team record 6-2

Patrick Mahomes 8td-9int, 1651 passing yards, 139 rushing yards, team record 7-0

Cj stroud 11td-4int, 1948 passing yards, 84 rushing yards, team record 6-2

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Kinda hate to admit it but based on these it looks like Lamar is the frontrunner again

However, Jayden Daniels being ahead of Stroud after looking at these is... interesting

Seems pretty open this year although I think Lamar wins again

[QUOTE=boxbuster7;19684312]Seems pretty open this year although I think Lamar wins again[/QUOTE]

I hope so because I'm [URL="https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpost.php?p=19682902&postcount=586"]HEAVILY[/URL] invested.

This is Goff's award to win. He by far has the best offensive line and weapons. If the Lions can acquire a couple pass rushers than can give 80% the production of Hutchinson, they'll make a deep run, possibly the Super Bowl. I'm taking Goff.

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[QUOTE=jplarson;19684323]I hope so because I'm [URL="https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpost.php?p=19682902&postcount=586"]HEAVILY[/URL] invested.[/QUOTE]

Damn it feels good to be a gangsta...

[QUOTE=starfox;19684349]This is Goff's award to win. He by far has the best offensive line and weapons. If the Lions can acquire a couple pass rushers than can give 80% the production of Hutchinson, they'll make a deep run, possibly the Super Bowl. I'm taking Goff.

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Goff has twice as worse betting odds as Josh Allen and Lamar - not saying he can't do it, but not as likely

[QUOTE=cardsharkk;19684184]Let’s look at the stats:

Josh Allen 14td- 1int, 1774 passing yards, 204 rushing yards, team record 6-2

Lamar Jackson: 17td- 2int, 2,099 passing yards, 501 rushing yards, team record 5-3

Jared Goff 13td- 4int, 1695 passing yards, 18 rushing yards, team record 6-1

Jayden Daniels 7td-2int, 1736 passing yards, 424 rushing yards, team record 6-2

Patrick Mahomes 8td-9int, 1651 passing yards, 139 rushing yards, team record 7-0

Cj stroud 11td-4int, 1948 passing yards, 84 rushing yards, team record 6-2

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Why would you include a QB who has more int than TD on Mvp convo? :doh:

[QUOTE=starfox;19684349]This is Goff's award to win. He by far has the best offensive line and weapons. If the Lions can acquire a couple pass rushers than can give 80% the production of Hutchinson, they'll make a deep run, possibly the Super Bowl. I'm taking Goff.

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First of all, playoff run has nothing to do with regular season MVP. Second of all, the more weapon a team has the less valuable people perceived the QB is.

This is a chart of team ANY/A through 8 weeks.

I'll take Lamar[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20241031/0cfc8b88a70d05b81cc902c3863d3c03.jpg[/IMG]

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[QUOTE=Onepocketj;19684359]Damn it feels good to be a gangsta...[/QUOTE]

I'll remember all my BO friends once I make it big on my Optic, Score, and Prestige bass ;)

[QUOTE=kluke84;19684580]This is a chart of team ANY/A through 8 weeks.

I'll take Lamar[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20241031/0cfc8b88a70d05b81cc902c3863d3c03.jpg[/IMG]

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Even if Bills have better record with less weapon?

[QUOTE=Delta5;19684730]Even if Bills have better record with less weapon?[/QUOTE]

Why do you always instigate by bias?

Clearly shows Baltimore has atrocious defense.

Is Rashod Bateman a great weapon?
Zay Flowers?

Meh. Keon Coleman looks great. Credit to Josh. However he also has an elite defense.

Baltimore does not.

[QUOTE=kluke84;19684776]Why do you always instigate by bias?

Clearly shows Baltimore has atrocious defense.

Is Rashod Bateman a great weapon?
Zay Flowers?

Meh. Keon Coleman looks great. Credit to Josh. However he also has an elite defense.

Baltimore does not.[/QUOTE]

Baltimore was 1st on defense last season and they gave it to Lamar despite average season. So your argument is invalid. Team record matters on these thing, people argued for Josh or even CMC last season but they stilk gave it to Lamar.

Also Bills doesnt have wr1 until that cooper trade. pound for pound, Raven RB > Bills RB by a mile, Ravens TE > Bills TE by a mile too with Mark Andrews and Lively. Ravens WR on paper should be better than bills but I'd give it a wash. Which one elevate their offense more and which one lost to Browns and Raiders. Go figure

[QUOTE=kluke84;19684776]Why do you always instigate by bias?

Clearly shows Baltimore has atrocious defense.

Is Rashod Bateman a great weapon?
Zay Flowers?

Meh. Keon Coleman looks great. Credit to Josh. However he also has an elite defense.

Baltimore does not.[/QUOTE]

That chart only shows passing offense and defense.

Ravens have the number one rushing defense in the NFL.

Also, the chart is misleading because the Ravens surrendered a ridiculous amount of yards in multiple fourth quarter games which were blowouts (the scores make them look like closer games). Dallas and Tampa to be exact.

I’m not arguing for Allen/Lamar just pointing out that chart is completely misleading.

[QUOTE=kluke84;19684776]Why do you always instigate by bias?

Clearly shows Baltimore has atrocious defense.

Is Rashod Bateman a great weapon?
Zay Flowers?

Meh. Keon Coleman looks great. Credit to Josh. However he also has an elite defense.

Baltimore does not.[/QUOTE]

Atrocious defense but held the Bills to 10 points.

Two blowouts vs Dallas and Tampa. Up 28-6 vs Dallas with 10 minutes left and allowed a bunch of garbage time yards and points. Up 34-10 vs Tampa with 12 minutes left and gave up 3 Tds in garbage time. Maybe the offense didnt do their part in running out the clock! Missed FGs, turnovers and gave up TWO on-sides kicks. One each game.

[QUOTE=Delta5;19684454]First of all, playoff run has nothing to do with regular season MVP. Second of all, the more weapon a team has the less valuable people perceived the QB is.[/QUOTE]Let's revisit this thread in 6 weeks; we'll see who's right and who's wrong. All i know is Goff is hot right now, and his help all over the offense is unmatched. Once they get Hutchinson's replacements at pass rusher, this should help Goff more. My money is on Goff.

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