[QUOTE=whitmm;19794475]Have you seen the number of huge cards that have been hit in breaks?

It's so weird that you call them degenerate gamblers, yet you project that they think like you. A degenerate gambler wouldn't care for two seconds about the story. They'd be on to the next chase.[/QUOTE]

Gamblers want to believe they have a shot at the biggest prizes. If they didn't, there wouldn't be a pricing structures for breaks. Participants wouldn't have to bid against each other for team spots. There wouldn't be bounties from dealers for specific cards. The chase for the biggest hits is part of the allure and illusion of group breaking and wax ripping. Without that illusion, the pricing structure collapses.

[QUOTE=ThoseBackPages;19794431]sounds like a bad father[/QUOTE]

Yeah why not protect the innocent 11 year old?

[QUOTE=whitmm;19794432]Why can't you answer any of my questions?

What are you hiding?[/QUOTE]

No matter how much you argue, everyone that rationally looks at this situation knows it stinks. What kind of company makes up a fake journal from an 11 year old, where he has to remind himself that he's 11 years old? What the hell is that?

[QUOTE=green4407;19794481]Yeah why not protect the innocent 11 year old?



No matter how much you argue, everyone that rationally looks at this situation knows it stinks. What kind of company makes up a fake journal from an 11 year old, where he has to remind himself that he's 11 years old? What the hell is that?[/QUOTE]

Does the story sounding off mean something nefarious is going on by Fanatics? If the journal is fake, how do we know it wasn't faked by the person who hit the card?

People want to think that Fanatics is some mastermind puppet-master controlling everything and then they turn around and think they would execute this supposed scam so poorly?

[QUOTE=whitmm;19794468]So what are you doing about it? Besides trolling BO? Have you contacted them? Have you launched an investigation? Have you contacted an attorney to begin a class action lawsuit?

Would you have been satisfied if the code has been entered and Fanatics issued a statement that said the family chose to remain anonymous and chose not to comment?

The family not telling Fanatics where they bought the box is more plausible than Fanatics hiding something. A guy telling Fanatics a made up story is more plausible then Fanatics doing something nefarious.[/QUOTE]

I'm now doing what one can only do as a potential customer, significantly reduce my purchases of fanatics products as I perceive that I don't have a fair shot at some of the best cards. I would have been more satisfied had Fanatics mentioned specifically that the family did not want to comment on where they purchased the box, but they never did.

I'm appalled by how they are trying to pump the card for sale, exploiting a child's story, while at the same time not being completely forthright.


They are hiding something.

[QUOTE=fabiani12333;19794480]Gamblers want to believe they have a shot at the biggest prizes. If they didn't, there wouldn't be a pricing structures for breaks. Participants wouldn't have to bid against each other for team spots. There wouldn't be bounties from dealers for specific cards. The chase for the biggest hits is part of the allure and illusion of group breaking and wax ripping. Without that illusion, the pricing structure collapses.[/QUOTE]

So all those other monster cards that have been hit during breaks or pulled by people means nothing?

Fab, you know damn well that this one card that you believe was acquired nefariously isn't going to change a thing with degenerate gamblers. You know damn well that it's not going to stop breakers from filling and running hundreds and thousands of breaks. Cut the "I'm just throwing out ideas for discussion" BS.

[QUOTE=whitmm;19794482]Does the story sounding off mean something nefarious is going on by Fanatics? Of the journal is fake, how do we know it wasn't faked by the person who hit the card?



People want to think that Fanatics is some mastermind puppet-master controlling everything and then they turn around and think they would execute this supposed scam so poorly?[/QUOTE]Who knows? Not you, and not me.

Fanatics posted the journal. Maybe someone should've read it and said what the hell is this, we shouldn't post this fake crap.

Just like the marketing team shouldn't post telling people to chase a card that was redeemed 5 days prior.

[QUOTE=hermanotarjeta;19794483]I'm now doing what one can only do as a potential customer, significantly reduce my purchases of fanatics products as I perceive that I don't have a fair shot at some of the best cards. I would have been more satisfied had Fanatics mentioned specifically that the family did not want to comment on where they purchased the box, but they never did.

I'm appalled by how they are trying to pump the card for sale, exploiting a child's story, while at the same time not being completely forthright.


They are hiding something.[/QUOTE]

Hiding what?

I'll ask again, how do you know that Fanatics wasn't sold a BS story from the person that hit the card? Like Fab said, a good heart warming story generates interesting. It's not like we haven't seen people here pump their own auctions.

You have no clue what the real story is, yet all of your hate is directed at Fanatics.

[QUOTE=whitmm;19794490]Hiding what?

I'll ask again, how do you know that Fanatics wasn't sold a BS story from the person that hit the card? Like Fab said, a good heart warming story generates interesting. It's not like we haven't seen people here pump their own auctions.

You have no clue what the real story is, yet all of your hate is directed at Fanatics.[/QUOTE]

Fanatics is selling the card through their auction site.

Fanatics hand-delivered the card to PSA to get it graded.

Fanatics is exploiting the boy's story for profit.

Why do you still adamantly defend them?

Sure, you can blame the parents for getting the child involved, they are probably to a certain degree exploiting their own son's story to sell the card as well. Yet, they are being hypocritical by wanting to preserve their privacy. It's like the rockstar or supermodel who complains about being famous.

So why are you still defending the parents?

[QUOTE=green4407;19794487]Who knows? Not you, and not me.

Fanatics posted the journal. Maybe someone should've read it and said what the hell is this, we shouldn't post this fake crap.

Just like the marketing team shouldn't post telling people to chase a card that was redeemed 5 days prior.[/QUOTE]

Was the card entered in the redemption system 5 days prior? Did Fanatics say that? The article says they learned of the card being pulled on the third. But they didn't actually start working with the family until after the wildfires started. Which was January 7th. Call me an apologist all you want, but that sounds like they didn't have actual confirmation 5 days before the Jan 8th post.

[QUOTE=hermanotarjeta;19794492]Fanatics is selling the card through their auction site.

Fanatics hand-delivered the card to PSA to get it graded.

Fanatics is exploiting the boy's story for profit.

Why do you still adamantly defend them?

Sure, you can blame the parents for getting the child involved, they are probably to a certain degree exploiting their own son's story to sell the card as well. Yet, they are being hypocritical by wanting to preserve their privacy. It's like the rockstar or supermodel who complains about being famous.

So why are you still defending the parents?[/QUOTE]

Didn’t fanatics say this was their plan from the VERY beginning? We all knew they were going to have a grading element (that’s why they partnered with PSA) and we knew they were going to have an auction component too. They’re doing exactly what they told us they’d do. Maybe you were caught up playing detective then too and missed it. Regardless, I sincerely hope you and Fab get the closure you need. And maybe a little perspective too.

[QUOTE=whitmm;19794494]Was the card entered in the redemption system 5 days prior? Did Fanatics say that? The article says they learned of the card being pulled on the third. But they didn't actually start working with the family until after the wildfires started. Which was January 7th. Call me an apologist all you want, but that sounds like they didn't have actual confirmation 5 days before the Jan 8th post.[/QUOTE]Apologist

[QUOTE=Seitas;19794495]Didn’t fanatics say this was their plan from the VERY beginning? We all knew they were going to have a grading element (that’s why they partnered with PSA) and we knew they were going to have an auction component too. They’re doing exactly what they told us they’d do. Maybe you were caught up playing detective then too and missed it. Regardless, I sincerely hope you and Fab get the closure you need. And maybe a little perspective too.[/QUOTE]

They simply needed to put out more believable facts and a less cringy story.

They failed miserably from my perspective.

[QUOTE=hermanotarjeta;19794492]Fanatics is selling the card through their auction site.

Fanatics hand-delivered the card to PSA to get it graded.

Fanatics is exploiting the boy's story for profit.

Why do you still adamantly defend them?

Sure, you can blame the parents for getting the child involved, they are probably to a certain degree exploiting their own son's story to sell the card as well. Yet, they are being hypocritical by wanting to preserve their privacy. It's like the rockstar or supermodel who complains about being famous.

So why are you still defending the parents?[/QUOTE]

I'm defending the parents? I literally just questioned whether the person could have made up a story.

Think about this, the "family" offers up the journal pages (which is where Fanatics would have gotten the age of the child). And then the family wants to remain anonymous and protect the "child?"

Let's be real honest here, the most logical possibility is that somebody fed Fanatics a made up story. Fanatics making it up because they are hiding some nefarious activities is not as logical. Fanatics blindly running with the story, absolutely plausible.

[QUOTE=whitmm;19794494]Was the card entered in the redemption system 5 days prior? Did Fanatics say that? The article says they learned of the card being pulled on the third. But they didn't actually start working with the family until after the wildfires started. Which was January 7th. Call me an apologist all you want, but that sounds like they didn't have actual confirmation 5 days before the Jan 8th post.[/QUOTE]A lot of words to continue making excuses for incompetence, or possibly fraud.

[QUOTE=green4407;19794500]A lot of words to continue making excuses for incompetence, or possibly fraud.[/QUOTE]

What incompetence? Someone saying they heard the card was pulled on one day does not mean they had actual confirmation of it or that the code was entered. Based on when they started working with the person, it doesn't sound like it was before their one post.

How about you actually support what you are saying, instead a crying that I'm using a lot of words.

[QUOTE=whitmm;19794501]What incompetence? Someone saying they heard the card was pulled on one day does not mean they had actual confirmation of it or that the code was entered. Based on when they started working with the person, it doesn't sound like it was before their one post.



How about you actually support what you are saying, instead a crying that I'm using a lot of words.[/QUOTE]Topps knew card was hit on 1/3.
Topps said card had not surfaced yet on 1/8.

How many times must we repeat this for it to sink in?

[QUOTE=green4407;19794502]Topps knew card was hit on 1/3.
Topps said card had not surfaced yet on 1/8.

How many times must we repeat this for it to sink in?[/QUOTE]

What does the 1/8 post actually say?

Hint: it doesn't say the card hadn't surfaced.

Learning about and it actually surfacing are two different things. They wouldn't have waited a week to reach out to the person had they had confirmation.

Fanatics controls all of aspects of distribution. They wait until the product is 80% sold and then allow the Skenes debut patch to be pulled 'randomly'.

"Hey Kids you can pulls this massive card to just get your parents to drop $1k on a lottery ticket and it could be you!" Fanatics is promoting gambling because Topps products are so watered down it's absurd . Just look at the newest Topps Now Ohtani release with less then 200 autos in the entire production run.

7% of all posts in this thread from one person. Absolutely insane. Defending a billion dollar corporation.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/k5bcidJ.jpeg[/img]

1) Well under 5% of the hobby cares about this. I don't think 5% has even heard of this story. Whispers might be floating around card shows, but most of the hobby doesn't go to them, isn't a member of Blowout, doesn't keep up with this crap.

2) If I ever hit anything like this, I'm not telling anybody anything. Not a chance. There's no way I would sacrifice my privacy just to dispell some rumor that I really don't care about anyway.

Incredible. 24 straight posts by posters I have blocked.

[QUOTE=cypher;19794507]7% of all posts in this thread from one person. Absolutely insane. Defending a billion dollar corporation.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/k5bcidJ.jpeg[/img][/QUOTE]

Hint: it's 3 of these 4.

[QUOTE=green4407;19794496]Apologist[/QUOTE]

He has like 5-10 posts per page defending Topps/ Fanatics. Hope he's at least getting some friendly benefits from them or something. Normally you gotta put in some effort to get that kinda glazing from someone.

[QUOTE=hermanotarjeta;19794406]I think it’s over 50%.

I was at a card show this past weekend and people were talking about it.

Most people think fanatics/ the family is hiding something.[/QUOTE]

I'm going to need video evidence of people talking about this at a card show to believe it. Why didn't you record it?

[QUOTE=Twalk1975;19794529]I'm going to need video evidence of people talking about this at a card show to believe it. Why didn't you record it?[/QUOTE]

He's obviously hiding something.

This may be the dumbest message board thread in the internet's history.