[QUOTE=Qwasian;10932942]what stat has drastically improved? what have they done so much better on the floor besides shoot freethrows? what actual plays? rebounds? assists? points?[/QUOTE]

First of all, and most telling, defensively the way that they have played the reigning 2 time MVP. He has shot the ball so poorly, it now seems as if he doesn't want to shoot. He's hounded constantly. If he's guarding Westbrook, Russ attacks him like a madman. If he's switched onto Roberson, Roberson suddenly becomes an offensive threat. Same goes for Waiters; he'll suddenly attack the basket, shoot at will. They are making him work SO HARD, constantly, and it's wearing Curry down, physically and MENTALLY.

How about the fact that, as a team, the Warriors are shooting 30% from 3 this series.

They're also shooting 65% from the FT line.

Here's Curry's regular season stat line:

PPG 30.1
RPG 5.4
APG 6.7
SPG 2.1
2 FG% .566
3 FG% .454
FT % .908
TO 3.3

Here's Curry's stat line vs. OKC:

PPG 24.3
RPG 5.5
APG 4.5
SPG 2.0
2 FG% .419
3 FG% ..381
FT % .897
TO 4.25

That's a start.

[QUOTE=bulljh;10933038][INDENT][/INDENT]
Are you blind or just dumb? What amazing defense is Westbrook playing when Curry misses free throws? Or how about when Curry loses Westbrook on screens and has wide-open threes and misses those. How is Westbrook "locking him down"?[/QUOTE]

It's just another troll that's been waiting 2 years for Golden State to look anything other than amazing.

Oh, and to add on, about OKC's stats as a team:

REGULAR SEASON
PPG 110.2
SPG 10.8
FOULS per Game 20.6

VS. GS Warriors:
PPG 112.5
SPG 7.3
FOULS per Game 20.5

These are a few stats that have improved (except for the fouls, which I thought I'd add in since you're so hooked on them)

Here's some of Golden State's stats that have been affected:

REGULAR season:
PPG 114.9
2PT % .528
3PT % .416
FT % .763
RPG 46.2
APG 28.9


VS OKC Thunder
PPG 104.8
2PT % 44.3
3PT % 35.5%
FT % .687
RPG 41.8
APG 21.5




[B][I]OH, and BTW: Golden State is averaging 1.8 more fouls per game in this series vs. the regular season. [/I][/B]

STATS, not conspiracies.

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[QUOTE=Cervantes;10933202]STATS, not conspiracies.

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you do realize the stats you just posted outline exactly the same thing I was saying right? or did you catch on to that yet?

which thing did you post that okc did better? "blanket statement defense" no actual stat, just golden state overall worse as a team?

okc is playing exactly the same, and golden state is getting stiffled on runs, that's my POINT.

[QUOTE=Qwasian;10933222]you do realize the stats you just posted outline exactly the same thing I was saying right? or did you catch on to that yet?

which thing did you post that okc did better? "blanket statement defense" no actual stat, just golden state overall worse as a team?

okc is playing exactly the same, and golden state is getting stiffled on runs, that's my POINT.[/QUOTE]

My POINT is that the THUNDER are ''stifling'' the runs, and not the refs, not the league, not the martians, not the shadow people, and not Willy Wonka.

OKC is playing BETTER TEAM DEFENSE on Golden State than they can handle. They are outworking, out-hustling, out-WANTING it more than the Warriors.

What kind of stat do you want for that? Dives on the floor/per game? 50/50 balls/per game?

[QUOTE=Cervantes;10933243]My POINT is that the THUNDER are ''stifling'' the runs, and not the refs, not the league, not the martians, not the shadow people, and not Willy Wonka.

OKC is playing BETTER TEAM DEFENSE on Golden State than they can handle. They are outworking, out-hustling, out-WANTING it more than the Warriors.

What kind of stat do you want for that? Dives on the floor/per game? 50/50 balls/per game?[/QUOTE]


and I debate that topic by saying, if it's not the refs, how come in game 4 the only hot shooter sat with 4 fouls?

in key games certain players sit early with fouls, watch the games.

watch the next game it will be adams, durant, or westbrook sitting early with fouls while on a run and golden state will win the next game, okc's runs will be stiffled.


watch as toronto magically forgets how to play basketball in cleveland and the cavs shoot near 40 freethrows, lol....... but they only shoot like 9 in toronto........

Yeah I don't think OKC' defence is all that I'm proved during this playoff series. There was some stat I heard yesterday on the radio (some projected something or rather) that basically indicated that the Warriors were just missing there shots, and the open shots, the shots they normally make. Game 3 the Dubs had more open looks than in any game against OKC this year and the just missed. If I had more time I'd look up the exact stat, but I don't.

[QUOTE=Qwasian;10933293]and I debate that topic by saying, if it's not the refs, how come in game 4 the only hot shooter sat with 4 fouls?

in key games certain players sit early with fouls, watch the games.

watch the next game it will be adams, durant, or westbrook sitting early with fouls while on a run and golden state will win the next game, okc's runs will be stiffled.


watch as toronto magically forgets how to play basketball in cleveland and the cavs shoot near 40 freethrows, lol....... but they only shoot like 9 in toronto........[/QUOTE]

Dude, if the league wanted Golden State to lose game 4, they would have suspending Draymond Green. Come back to reality man

[QUOTE=tjforce;10933321]Dude, if the league wanted Golden State to lose game 4, they would have suspending Draymond Green. Come back to reality man[/QUOTE]

no they wouldn't because that would piss off the fanbase, they are about money first. they aren't suspending star players from these type of series'

[QUOTE=pingbling23;10931715]anyone with common sense knows that bulls team is THE better team regardless of regular season record or post season outcome. if the warriors do not make it to the finals, then that is a strike against them but no one can tell me that this warriors team is the greatest of all time.[/QUOTE]

The way that OKC is playing right now they would beat that Bulls team imo. OKC is playing the best out of all the teams left and if they continue to play this way will beat Cleveland or Toronto in 5.

[QUOTE=Qwasian;10933293]and I debate that topic by saying, if it's not the refs, how come in game 4 the only hot shooter sat with 4 fouls?

in key games certain players sit early with fouls, watch the games.

watch the next game it will be adams, durant, or westbrook sitting early with fouls while on a run and golden state will win the next game, okc's runs will be stiffled.


watch as toronto magically forgets how to play basketball in cleveland and the cavs shoot near 40 freethrows, lol....... but they only shoot like 9 in toronto........[/QUOTE]

So, for all of this to happen, the league, the owners, the refs, the coaches, and the players would all have to be in on the conspiracy.

:coffee:

[QUOTE=tennelson55;10932698]The year the heat won as an 8 seed with shaq and dwade dude. The Warriors have run low on gas... Draymond has played like crap. Sometimes matchups are everything.

Wasn't meaning to take shots on your basketball stuff either, I'm just trying to get a sense on where you're coming from.

Edit - watching the first half I was under the impression the okc was going to blow them out of the water too. I mean they were up by 20... Mid way through the 2nd q the momentum shifted significantly. Did you notice that?[/QUOTE]

I am so wrong about the heat comment. I was referring the the Warriors over the Mavericks. The mavs were upset as the one seed vs the Warriors.

[QUOTE=NoleinJax;10933349]The way that OKC is playing right now they would beat that Bulls team imo. OKC is playing the best out of all the teams left and if they continue to play this way will beat Cleveland or Toronto in 5.[/QUOTE]

Jesus, don't get me started.

[QUOTE=Cervantes;10933353]So, for all of this to happen, the league, the owners, the refs, the coaches, and the players would all have to be in on the conspiracy.

:coffee:[/QUOTE]

it's pretty much just the structure of the way the games are officiated that makes it occur and teams conform to it......... so yeah, everybody is in on it... what really would be done any different? people call them out on it all the time and nothing changes. the raptors coach just put heat on the freethrow situation in the media and it changed overnight, you think that wasn't strategic? you don't think he knew what he was doing? they still won't win though, it will just be adjusted in a different manner.

[QUOTE=tristan20;10931785]MJ would actually play defense[/QUOTE]

They are simply exposing Curry's lack of defense, completely man handling the poor fella.

[QUOTE=bulljh;10933319]Yeah I don't think OKC' defence is all that I'm proved during this playoff series. There was some stat I heard yesterday on the radio (some projected something or rather) that basically indicated that the Warriors were just missing there shots, and the open shots, the shots they normally make. Game 3 the Dubs had more open looks than in any game against OKC this year and the just missed. If I had more time I'd look up the exact stat, but I don't.[/QUOTE]

Similar stat that cavs shot Lebron and Love were combined 4/17 on shots with nobody within 6 feet. 12/38 in Toronto as a team.

[QUOTE=zacsoccer6;10933484]Similar stat that cavs shot Lebron and Love were combined 4/17 on shots with nobody within 6 feet. 12/38 in Toronto as a team.[/QUOTE]

the stat occurs because the team doesn't get the fouls, they are pushed away from the basket and forced to take bad shots, when typically they would get bailed out with fouls when they drive. lebrons average shot went from 1 ft to about 16 ft away from the basket while in toronto. in cleveland everybody was getting fouls, in toronto nobody was getting them except lebron & kyrie.

[QUOTE=Qwasian;10933545]the stat occurs because the team doesn't get the fouls, they are pushed away from the basket and forced to take bad shots, when typically they would get bailed out with fouls when they drive. lebrons average shot went from 1 ft to about 16 ft away from the basket while in toronto. in cleveland everybody was getting fouls, in toronto nobody was getting them except lebron & kyrie.[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry but how is taking a shot with nobody within 6 feet of you a bad shot? That is classified as a wide open look.

[QUOTE=bulljh;10933319]Yeah I don't think OKC' defence is all that I'm proved during this playoff series. There was some stat I heard yesterday on the radio (some projected something or rather) that basically indicated that the Warriors were just missing there shots, and the open shots, the shots they normally make. Game 3 the Dubs had more open looks than in any game against OKC this year and the just missed. If I had more time I'd look up the exact stat, but I don't.[/QUOTE]

I agree it not all OKC defense. But if you don't think some of it has to do with there D. Then I'm sorry your just being foolish. Also yes curry has been off, but Robertson KD and Russ have all played great D on him. He got stripped like 3 times yesterday and had like 8 turnover that all defense come on bro don't sound stupid please.

[QUOTE=bulljh;10933038][INDENT][/INDENT]
Are you blind or just dumb? What amazing defense is Westbrook playing when Curry misses free throws? Or how about when Curry loses Westbrook on screens and has wide-open threes and misses those. How is Westbrook "locking him down"?[/QUOTE]

Are you blind or dumb please. What you watching bro????? Please tell me what the hell are you watching??? Some missed open shoots ya but RUSS and OKC on him like glue. Please don't give me none of this Bull.
Get out of here. Your giving no credit to OKC D right now you sound stupid. Is it all OKC D of course not but half the reason he playing bad is there D.

[QUOTE=Qwasian;10933545]the stat occurs because the team doesn't get the fouls, they are pushed away from the basket and forced to take bad shots, when typically they would get bailed out with fouls when they drive. lebrons average shot went from 1 ft to about 16 ft away from the basket while in toronto. in cleveland everybody was getting fouls, in toronto nobody was getting them except lebron & kyrie.[/QUOTE]

Hm. I see what you're saying. I don't agree with it though.
The Warriors are a jump shooting team more so than than the thunder, primarily due to Westbrook. Westbrook takes it to the hole and curry/klay would be more apt to shoot the jump shot. That's primarily why they've got more FT attempts. It's also harder for the Warriors to take it to the rim because of ibaka, Adams due to size.

Yeah, I don't think this is on the refs at all, the Spurs I believe were the team that fouled the least in the regular season but OKC still got to the line at a solid clip, that wasn't the refs doing but the fact that they attack the paint, having two superstars that are incredibly difficult to guard in 1on1 situations and are rebounding on the offensives glass at a good clip compared to their opponents while also playing great interior D. OKC has really stepped up their game, I wasn't happy with some of the late game calls against the Spurs in a couple of those tight games but OKC is playing at peak level and is simply outplaying their opponents. They keep up this level of play and it's a wrap, they'll get their first ring.

[QUOTE=zacsoccer6;10933668]I'm sorry but how is taking a shot with nobody within 6 feet of you a bad shot? That is classified as a wide open look.[/QUOTE]

maybe "BAD" isn't the right word for it, "MORE DIFFICULT" is probably a more accurate term.

lebron is more effective dunking on you that shooting 3's anyway you look at it.

[QUOTE=tennelson55;10933812]Hm. I see what you're saying. I don't agree with it though.
The Warriors are a jump shooting team more so than than the thunder, primarily due to Westbrook. Westbrook takes it to the hole and curry/klay would be more apt to shoot the jump shot. That's primarily why they've got more FT attempts. It's also harder for the Warriors to take it to the rim because of ibaka, Adams due to size.[/QUOTE]

I don't think the difference in how much klay/curry drive as opposed to how much westbrook/durant drive is that drastic, I agree that it probably is a little swayed toward klay/curry but not as drastic as the thunder should shoot 40 free throws.... and also the freethrows aren't by westbrook & durant always, over half of them were by the rest of the team, curry and klay are typically the driving scorers for golden state and they typically have the higher freethrow totals. and if this were the case, it should always be the case, anytime the thunder are playing well the freethrow totals should be high, it won't be high next game though, golden state will win.