To add, I'd do that deal because Henson is pretty bad and the Bucks have a chance to be good this year, but they should shoot higher than Favors. I don't think Favors is all that good either. Has shot it well this year (not the norm), but he doesn't solve their rebounding problems as well as some other Cs would.

I guess it all depends on if the Bucks would even match an offer on Jabari, I really don't know. They are close to being really good and this next 365 days is huge for them as far as finding another good player to round out that team.

[QUOTE=Ottomatic;13155384]To add, I'd do that deal because Henson is pretty bad and the Bucks have a chance to be good this year, but they should shoot higher than Favors. I don't think Favors is all that good either. Has shot it well this year (not the norm), but he doesn't solve their rebounding problems as well as some other Cs would.

I guess it all depends on if the Bucks would even match an offer on Jabari, I really don't know. They are close to being really good and this next 365 days is huge for them as far as finding another good player to round out that team.[/QUOTE]

Remember when you look at Favors splits that you're seeing a lot of minutes where he's playing the 4 with Rudy or Udoh at 5....

He thinks he's a 4. He's not.

If you can convince him to play the 5 happily, he'd be killer for the Bucks. And Rodney Hood is literally just what the doctor ordered for Giannis. Open 3's all day from the high release, 6-8 shooting guard. If I'm Milwaukee, I do it. If I'm the Jazz, I do it.

[QUOTE=the27guy;13155402]Remember when you look at Favors splits that you're seeing a lot of minutes where he's playing the 4 with Rudy or Udoh at 5....

He thinks he's a 4. He's not.

If you can convince him to play the 5 happily, he'd be killer for the Bucks. And Rodney Hood is literally just what the doctor ordered for Giannis. Open 3's all day from the high release, 6-8 shooting guard. If I'm Milwaukee, I do it. If I'm the Jazz, I do it.[/QUOTE]

I think I agree with you. I think Jabari will be an interesting RFA case as well, probably a risk worth taking on the Jazz. I'm probably too harsh on him, he clearly has upside, but I'm not sure it's the kind of upside where despite the injury history you still feel safe banking on him.

[QUOTE=Ottomatic;13155439]I think I agree with you. I think Jabari will be an interesting RFA case as well, probably a risk worth taking on the Jazz. I'm probably too harsh on him, he clearly has upside, but I'm not sure it's the kind of upside where despite the injury history you still feel safe banking on him.[/QUOTE]

Let me drive the nail home here.

The Jazz might be willing to also take Dellevadova in the trade to allow Milwaukee to get him off the books. Utah becomes the unofficial, Team Australia w Ingles, Delly and Exum. Milwaukee is able to not only get assets back from Jabari but puts them in way better financial shape moving forward....

Now, Hood is still a RFA at seasons end and Favors is unrestricted.... but I think if you're the Bucks, that trade makes a lot of sense being able to let Delly go too.

I'm kinda drinking my own Kool-Aide here. I think this makes a lot of sense.

[QUOTE=the27guy;13155458]Let me drive the nail home here.

The Jazz might be willing to also take Dellevadova in the trade to allow Milwaukee to get him off the books. Utah becomes the unofficial, Team Australia w Ingles, Delly and Exum. Milwaukee is able to not only get assets back from Jabari but puts them in way better financial shape moving forward....

Now, Hood is still a RFA at seasons end and Favors is unrestricted.... but I think if you're the Bucks, that trade makes a lot of sense being able to let Delly go too.

I'm kinda drinking my own Kool-Aide here. I think this makes a lot of sense.[/QUOTE]

I like it. I like the Bucks, I don't think they're all that far from competing with the Cavs. I just can't say I have any idea of how they value Jabari and how willing they would be to match.

Also if they do think Jabari is good and would prefer to match on him than to try and attract a top FA. That stuff matters and is stuff I can't really can't know for sure how they would think... But I do like your idea in a vacuum.

Will have some amazing Giannis posts by the end of this month... some insane stuff.
How many MVPs will he win before he retires?


Thanks!

Personnel can only go so far when Kidd is so bad. #1 priority should be to get rid of him, then go after the right personnel, maybe depending on the style of the new coach.

What the Bucks need to do is trade Maker, Wilson, Vaughn, Teletovic, and a 2nd rounder or two to the Hawks for Ilyasova, Dedmon, and Belinelli.

Adds some interior defense (Dedmon), rebounding (Dedmon and Ilyasova), and shooting (Ilyasova and Belinelli), all while solidifying the bench.

Confused...is Jason Kidd that bad of a coach that the HEAT are able to win w/ such supposedly inferior talent?

[QUOTE=miamitrev2;13157419]Confused...is Jason Kidd that bad of a coach that the HEAT are able to win w/ such supposedly inferior talent?[/QUOTE]

I'll start by saying the Heat have won a lot of games lately; just 1/2 game out of the 3rd seed.

[QUOTE=tjforce;13157462]I'll start by saying the Heat have won a lot of games lately; just 1/2 game out of the 3rd seed.[/QUOTE]

Miami has been ballin. Seems like they just don’t lose close games.

What I don't understand is how does Giannis take seven less shots than Middleton??! Ill admit I haven't watched a ton of games but do Middleton and bledsoe have to get their shots in?

[QUOTE=miamitrev2;13157419]Confused...is Jason Kidd that bad of a coach that the HEAT are able to win w/ such supposedly inferior talent?[/QUOTE]

Yes, Kidd is terrible and is outcoached every game.

[QUOTE=rockem;13157499]What I don't understand is how does Giannis take seven less shots than Middleton??! Ill admit I haven't watched a ton of games but do Middleton and bledsoe have to get their shots in?[/QUOTE]

Middleton shot 50% didnt he, I think Kidd is that bad though

Giannis has no range and zero confidence in his mid to long range shooting.


I don't watch a lot of Bucks games, but saw the GS game from start to end.

He had the opportunity to take a lot of those shots and he passed most of them up.

[QUOTE=minnesotachill;13157557]Giannis has no range and zero confidence in his mid to long range shooting.


I don't watch a lot of Bucks games, but saw the GS game from start to end.

He had the opportunity to take a lot of those shots and he passed most of them up.[/QUOTE]

Seems a funny time to say this given that he went 2/3 from 3 tonight..... in an admittedly, subpar game for him.

[QUOTE=minnesotachill;13157557]Giannis has no range and zero confidence in his mid to long range shooting.[/QUOTE]

Which is why he is not yet the MVP-level superstar that many people are making him out to be.

He's dominant in the paint, but pretty much a non-factor offensively outside of 10-12 feet.

LeBron's first MVP season he had a TS% of .591, Giannis is at .616 right now.

[QUOTE=rockem;13157499]What I don't understand is how does Giannis take seven less shots than Middleton??! Ill admit I haven't watched a ton of games but do Middleton and bledsoe have to get their shots in?[/QUOTE]

Giannis shot 15 free throws to Middleton's none.

Thy about 7 more shots that didn't go down as shot attempts because he ended up at the line. Unfortunately, he only hit 8 of 15 of those free throws. But at least that explains the shot disparity.

Fire jason kidd.

[QUOTE=broncomanning18;13154413]what I gather from that is Matthew Dellavedova sucks!!!!
just kidding, giannis is a beast[/QUOTE]

Hang on, doesn't it show that the rest of the guys need Giannis badly?

We already know the rest of the Bucks aren't great, I'm on the record as being a non-believer in Bledose, I do like Middleton though.

Overall, without Giannis, this team is the Nets.

I'm a believer in Jabari and think it would be crazy to move him.

Unless you are getting a top 10 big I'm paying him. I even like the Giannis/Middleton/Jabari trio.

Is Brogdon a starter in the League?

I think T. Chandler would suit them as someone has mentioned before.

[QUOTE=minnesotachill;13157557]Giannis has no range and zero confidence in his mid to long range shooting.


I don't watch a lot of Bucks games, but saw the GS game from start to end.

He had the opportunity to take a lot of those shots and he passed most of them up.[/QUOTE]

Yep, his jump shot is what’s holding him back from getting to that next level. That’s why I’d rank both KD and AD well ahead of him right now. He’s still young he has a lot of time to develop it and I’m sure he eventually will.

[QUOTE=exoticprince;13157827]Yep, his jump shot is what’s holding him back from getting to that next level. That’s why I’d rank both KD and AD well ahead of him right now. He’s still young he has a lot of time to develop it and I’m sure he eventually will.[/QUOTE]

Of course KD is way ahead of him still, AD, I don't think so. They are probably on par.

Both really need to find a team with some better balance and all around talent. Hovering around .500 ball entering your prime isn't good enough.

[QUOTE=tjforce;13157650]Giannis shot 15 free throws to Middleton's none.

Thy about 7 more shots that didn't go down as shot attempts because he ended up at the line. Unfortunately, he only hit 8 of 15 of those free throws. But at least that explains the shot disparity.[/QUOTE]


Got it. Thanks for that.