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mfw13 08-04-2025 02:45 PM

[QUOTE=JohnnyHatesJazz;19981684]I wish they’d move it around. LA, Houston, Nashville, Denver, Miami…[/QUOTE]

So do many of us.

However, the old-time dealers who vote on the locations all want to keep in the Upper Midwest because that's the shortest drive for them.

Been discussed many times in the National sub-forum....

byronscott4ever 08-04-2025 03:09 PM

[QUOTE=mfw13;19981716]So do many of us.

However, the old-time dealers who vote on the locations all want to keep in the Upper Midwest because that's the shortest drive for them.

Been discussed many times in the National sub-forum....[/QUOTE]

Not to mention that many places don’t meet the requirements and are eliminated…wonder if it’ll get tighter if the space requirement minimum increases

JohnnyHatesJazz 08-04-2025 03:10 PM

[QUOTE=mfw13;19981716]So do many of us.

However, the old-time dealers who vote on the locations all want to keep in the Upper Midwest because that's the shortest drive for them.

Been discussed many times in the National sub-forum....[/QUOTE]

Very good point.

NickyCards 08-04-2025 03:37 PM

There are some people on the waiting list that should have tables. Their inventory is better than tables I’ve seen.

theshowandme 08-04-2025 04:33 PM

Some of the 1990s baseball and basketball that made it upstairs in the new booths was fantastic. PMGs, Star Rubies, Essential Credentials, etc.

More of that please.

PuddleMonkey 08-04-2025 09:34 PM

[QUOTE=solt0131;19981146]You really are this clueless. Just stick to staying home and building your sets.[/QUOTE]

Finished another one today. Did you go to The National?

ThoseBackPages 08-04-2025 09:47 PM

[QUOTE=theshowandme;19981859]Some of the 1990s baseball and basketball that made it upstairs in the new booths was fantastic. PMGs, Star Rubies, Essential Credentials, etc.

More of that please.[/QUOTE]

hell yea!

solt0131 08-05-2025 07:53 AM

[QUOTE=PuddleMonkey;19982166]Finished another one today. Did you go to The National?[/QUOTE]

Of course, been to every one since 2010. And for those who were there, you now have a better understanding of the current state of the hobby and where it’s trending.

OhioLawyerF5 08-05-2025 08:46 AM

[QUOTE=theshowandme;19981859]Some of the 1990s baseball and basketball that made it upstairs in the new booths was fantastic. PMGs, Star Rubies, Essential Credentials, etc.

More of that please.[/QUOTE]

Amen!

This show had more rare 90s than any show I've seen. But it still needs more. :)!

theshowandme 08-05-2025 09:48 AM

The lawyer liked something I said. We are turning a corner here folks.

Shows are alive. The hobby is alive. $ is being spent. Dealers with good inventory and fair pricing are having a great time.

The poors still refuse to get on a plane though which is not something I can change. You cannot change that type of mindset.

Imnottheonly 08-05-2025 09:57 AM

[QUOTE=theshowandme;19981859]Some of the 1990s baseball and basketball that made it upstairs in the new booths was fantastic. PMGs, Star Rubies, Essential Credentials, etc.

More of that please.[/QUOTE]


More of those cards and for the love of god more space between tables up there.


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hermanotarjeta 08-05-2025 10:18 AM

[QUOTE=theshowandme;19982432]The lawyer liked something I said. We are turning a corner here folks.

Shows are alive. The hobby is alive. $ is being spent. Dealers with good inventory and fair pricing are having a great time.

The poors still refuse to get on a plane though which is not something I can change. You cannot change that type of mindset.[/QUOTE]

It’s easy when over half of the attendees are millionaires.

#richmanshobby

theshowandme 08-05-2025 10:19 AM

I think they will figure out the upstairs situation.

They could add more tables and give another 5-6 feet in the rows for patrons to walk through.

One long time dealer who shared booth space in years past was finally able to set up solo with this new configuration.

No hard feelings between him and his former boothmate, it was just time to branch out which gave him more table space and more showcases.

He was elated to get his spot and said it was busy, well lit, well ventilated, etc.

He said he would ask to be put up there again next year even with the crowdedness.

NickyCards 08-05-2025 10:22 AM

They could have so many more tables up there even with expanding the rows. Was Chicago voted for three years in a row?

theshowandme 08-05-2025 12:14 PM

2026 - Chicago
2027 - Chicago
2028 - Detroit
2029 - Fanatics Takeover?

fabiani12333 08-05-2025 05:03 PM

[QUOTE=anusinha;19979702]The top 10% of Americans have a net worth over 1 million dollars.... and thats 35 million people. You only need a very small percentage of them engaged in the hobby to keep prices high. Essentially, in an niche industry like this where production of a product is something like 10-20k cases, you are really only concerned about catering to the top of the income chain.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cracktoast;19980325]Finally somebody gets it :)![/QUOTE]

It's called upscaling -- it's been going on since the pandemic with the sharp increase in prices and the opening of boutique hobby shops.

It's also pretty small-minded and won't result in 10xing the hobby.

And $1 million net worth is peanuts here in Cali -- the costs are so high, you need to make at least that much annually to live comfortably.

fabiani12333 08-05-2025 05:06 PM

Also, the upscaling of the hobby doesn't exactly mesh with the rise of the trashy gambling elements that are driving most new product sales.

What respectable person wants to be associated with the Backyard Boys?

asujbl 08-05-2025 05:08 PM

[QUOTE=theshowandme;19982432]The lawyer liked something I said. We are turning a corner here folks.

Shows are alive. The hobby is alive. $ is being spent. Dealers with good inventory and fair pricing are having a great time.

The poors still refuse to get on a plane though which is not something I can change. You cannot change that type of mindset.[/QUOTE]

Poors are the worst

UMich92 08-05-2025 05:13 PM

[QUOTE=theshowandme;19981859]Some of the 1990s baseball and basketball that made it upstairs in the new booths was fantastic. PMGs, Star Rubies, Essential Credentials, etc.

More of that please.[/QUOTE]

Great to hear. Too bad for me as I didn't make it up there. Too much to see, but still had a great time.

PuddleMonkey 08-05-2025 08:16 PM

[QUOTE=theshowandme;19982432]Dealers with good inventory and fair pricing are having a great time.[/QUOTE]

If this were a thing wouldn't the repackers just clean them out?

theshowandme 08-05-2025 11:08 PM

[QUOTE=PuddleMonkey;19983079]If this were a thing wouldn't the repackers just clean them out?[/QUOTE]


Don’t confuse Kaboom!, Downtowns, etc. as good inventory

backtothe50s 08-05-2025 11:30 PM

The National should be on a three region rotation.

1st year-East Coast
2nd year-Midwest
3rd year-West Coast

Then keep repeating this rotation.

I also always thought that Las Vegas would be a prime location for the National.

I also feel that the Burbank Cards West Coast show is quietly becoming the West Coast “National”.

ThoseBackPages 08-06-2025 12:26 AM

no need for that

Twalk1975 08-06-2025 06:30 AM

It seems as though the trade night at The National was pretty well received. How do those work? Just walk around and talk to to people? Does anyone make a little sign or placard that says "looking for _______"? I'm thinking about attending the next one at the fall show in town.

theshowandme 08-06-2025 06:56 AM

[QUOTE=Twalk1975;19983283]It seems as though the trade night at The National was pretty well received. How do those work? Just walk around and talk to to people? Does anyone make a little sign or placard that says "looking for _______"? I'm thinking about attending the next one at the fall show in town.[/QUOTE]


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