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[QUOTE=Spacemanspif;19753389]So how do these achievement-based cards work? Like, they aren’t printing on demand so there should theoretically be X amount made… if only 50% of them are actually redeemed, what happens to the rest of them?[/QUOTE]

I’m no epack expert but I imagine they are permanently on stock at UD (well COMC) as a potential, to be redeemed, because you never know when down the road someone may obtain the necessary cards through trading. Someone could theoretically redeem a MM16 achievement this far down the road….I think? (someone correct me if I’m wrong).

Haha I hear ya Dyna. I certainly wouldn't trade the one for the other. Just reporting on how it's shaking out. If these had been bought three or so at a time from the shop and had missed the bigger hits it'd be a bitter pill to swallow. It's a different experience as a case and I'm glad to have the volume on my side. Definitely some strong purples aside from these two numbered cards. Great case (but the base in my box should never have made it outside of the factory).

Ok so I was going to complain to UD about the missing lenticular in my box but I'm not sure they'd listen to me. Can they track what's in an individual box? I think i may have gotten an unusual one on second glance.

6 canvas- right on odds.
3 clear cut- Widow, Phoenix, Shatterstar right on odds.
2 Rainbow at 1:6 odds
One Rainbow Variant Cover right on odds
2 variant cover
Spider Gwen Corner Box 1:7
Fantastic Covers Thor & Hulk 1:14
3 leather including Rogue at 1:8 packs
Blue Traxx Doc Strange
Fantastic Covers Star Lord Rainbow 1:107
Pink Lasers Tombstone /992
Red Prism Archangel /492.

Was this an unusually good box? Does it make up for the missing Lenticular?

Thanks.

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Yea lenticular is 1:12 physical right? I’m not sure how UD operates, if they pull the ol ‘odds are stated across the run and no guarantees per box or case’ yada yada.

I think overall the box looks roughly about what a usual box from this looks like, outside the lenticular. At least similar to what mine was. I can’t remember if each of my boxes had a lenticular or not.

[QUOTE=DynaEtch;19753397]
The Wolvie Holofoil jdandns is a heckuva hit for 3 packs- I bet that looks amazing in hand. Nailed it![/QUOTE]

Thanks!
I'll find out as I'm finally going to have some cards mailed to me (for only the second time after the first batch I had sent over 6 years ago).

[QUOTE=Fenian95;19753450]Ok so I was going to complain to UD about the missing lenticular in my box but I'm not sure they'd listen to me. Can they track what's in an individual box? I think i may have gotten an unusual one on second glance.

6 canvas- right on odds.
3 clear cut- Widow, Phoenix, Shatterstar right on odds.
2 Rainbow at 1:6 odds
One Rainbow Variant Cover right on odds
2 variant cover
Spider Gwen Corner Box 1:7
Fantastic Covers Thor & Hulk 1:14
3 leather including Rogue at 1:8 packs
Blue Traxx Doc Strange
Fantastic Covers Star Lord Rainbow 1:107
Pink Lasers Tombstone /992
Red Prism Archangel /492.

Was this an unusually good box? Does it make up for the missing Lenticular?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Like Dyna said, this looks like a typical box. Unfortunately that means it looks like the usual very bad value.

It will be far easier for anyone to build a regular, rainbow, or lenticular base set than to build it out of the ePack exclusive parallels due to scarcity. Mini Boxes might be easier, but I'm not sure if it's to a greater degree than a numbered parallel. Kaleidoscope will be very unlikely and I'm guessing somewhere between green and blue PMG counts (10-50). I actually think PMG prices will be affected because of the border/bleed issues mentioned before. Even though these are the "last" Marvel PMG's from UD (and retro ones at that), there are more classic offerings out there.

It looks awesome in hand

Thanks everyone. I have contacted UD and will see what happens.

Probably get a lenticular of Strong Guy but you never know.

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[QUOTE=Fenian95;19754484]Thanks everyone. I have contacted UD and will see what happens.

Probably get a lenticular of Strong Guy but you never know.[/QUOTE]

Maybe a Wolvie lenticular…true ya never know. Worth a try

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[QUOTE=bjmach;19754343]It looks awesome in hand[/QUOTE]

Very nice!

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Does anyone have thoughts where later vip black achievements like vip-15ish and higher will end up? The reason I ask is because the lower ones resulted in me taking the biggest hit of anything in this set from comc buys- cards I bought early on for $40ish now going for $5-10. But the higher number vip’s are obviously going to be a lot rarer.

I bought this Doom black (vip-17) for like $90 and I don’t have a clue if that is a sensible buy or not. I checked and there are 10 active ones on the epack marketplace. But is this something a lot more people will start to acquire from trading once time goes on? Or will they stay pretty much the same? Trying not to get clobbered as I did with the lower vip-blacks I bought.

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If E-Pack is sold out I'd assume it would slow a bit as some might not want to make the effort of exclusively trading for them now. Anything non-numbered is likely to lose value though, rarity or not, I thought people who bought early just sort of accepted that. I mean miracles can happen but the majority of cards will drop in the mid-term, it's sell early or wait and see much down the line how the card is appreciated.

I do think Doom specifically will be unique as people really love Robert Downey Jr so when his Doom hits the screen I see a huge merch blitz and possible boost to existing items like cards.

How do you check how many of these have been made? I bought out a bunch of the decently priced blacks because I want to complete the set, and it’s all kind of “free” to me since it’s just using COMC credit. I should have just pulled the trigger last night, a few like that Doom and a couple others disappeared from my cart

Yea, I think the problem is I don’t know in the long term whether a card like that Doom will have 15-25ish copies or more like 100. I don’t know if there’s precedent on epack to estimate that.

To get that Doom from scratch, would require
-Complete rainbow variant cover set
-complete blue traxx set
-complete lenticular set
-complete corner box rainbow set
-complete battle spectrum rainbow set

That sounds hard to me to get via the trading period, but more likely if it’s some whale buying up like 10+ cases during the product sale period. But I have no idea…I’m not hip to much of the going on’s of ePack trading (I don’t have the stomach for it tbh, and avoid it).

True about Doom and MCU, maybe this was a bad example- I just mean any of the higher VIPs..She-Hulk etc.

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[QUOTE=Spacemanspif;19754910]How do you check how many of these have been made? I bought out a bunch of the decently priced blacks because I want to complete the set, and it’s all kind of “free” to me since it’s just using COMC credit. I should have just pulled the trigger last night, a few like that Doom and a couple others disappeared from my cart[/QUOTE]

I don’t think you can know how many are made, because that will depend how many eventually get redeemed as an achievement. You could at least get a max number using the estimation of the epack print run and the print run of the parallel set needed for the achievement (such as a Lenticular set). That will be a huge overestimation since it would require perfect trading on epack.

You can however see how many are actively on epack at the current moment, by going to the marketplace on epack and looking under the vip black achievement tab.

Sorry! I think that Doom may have been the one above. But no doubt more will show up. Since I posted the above, the Cap I was eyeing has since disappeared…d’oh.

If the allotment really was 5% then only 25~ Wolverines(VIP-24) can be made with "perfect" collation. Knowing that, it'd be a miracle if 50% of those get made, so 12~ Wolverines. You can also get a pretty good guess on Spidey(VIP-25) based on those Wolverine numbers. I'd personally start there as the rest should be more widely available.

No real guess on prices. Obviously, it depends how many people want the set...but with that few floating around(Wolvie/Spidey), even if a handful of people are seriously chasing, it'll get expensive fast. Probably best to use the same logic you would on a Green /10 etc. If you want them, buy them when you see them.

Does anyone know why some of these achievements say only 98 or 99 cards needed for the parallel set, like the one for the red prism set? Is that because the Warlock error or is it because some of these parallels card characters don’t exist?

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Nvm think I just found the answer- cards #9 and 10 don’t exist for red prism (the warlock/apocalypse). They do exist for red prism variant cover.

I checked eBay and looks like those red prism may not be in physical either, so the Adam warlock and Apocalypse red prism do not exist (so far as we know). If you do pull either of those from physical….cherish it! Because you have a very rare card.

A few top tier kaleidoscopes went today for decent prices. I attempted to build my favorite character on epack, not even close.

I think the plates in this set will be pretty sought after. Whoever were the lucky ones to get the battle spectrum plates…those are very nice looking.

Blaster case #2 in the books.

I opened 19 boxes without a purple variant, got down to the 20th and last box, and lo and behold it had one.

The purples were above avg, but none of the very top ones. I dig the purple variant because I like the art a lot even if the character isn’t an A-lister.

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Something else about this set- do not underestimate the number of C to D list characters in it…there are a lot. From Mojo to Northstar to Sleepwalker to Major Victory to Nightmare to Nomad, with many more. I remember this being strikingly apparent in the FPG kickstarter project, with the difficulty to land a big name painting in the drawing for the art.

[QUOTE=DynaEtch;19755692]Blaster case #2 in the books.

I opened 19 boxes without a purple variant, got down to the 20th and last box, and lo and behold it had one.

The purples were above avg, but none of the very top ones. I dig the purple variant because I like the art a lot even if the character isn’t an A-lister.

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That Archangel is sooooo badass.

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Edit: nvm list is kinda subjective