It is the same card (serial # 0007845929)! First sold by PWCC auction for $7050 on Sep 26th and then sold for $4638 on Nov 8th. The bidder (ebay feedback score of 13) who won the PWCC auction is no longer a registered ebay user. The seller (ebay feedback score of 2020) of the auction which ended yesterday never bid on the PWCC auction.

[url]https://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Bowman-Chrome-Mike-Trout-Gold-Refractor-50-Rookie-BGS-Gem-Mint-9-5-/123380134608?hash=item1cba0772d0%3Ag%3ABCIAAOSwlv9boutC&nma=true&si=Oq2k9pz73l9bi%252FjdVUQTRER7FMU%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/url]

[url]https://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Bowman-Chrome-Mike-Trout-Gold-Refractor-50-Rookie-BGS-Gem-Mint-9-5-/123463671951?hash=item1cbf02208f%3Ag%3ABCIAAOSwlv9boutC&nma=true&si=Oq2k9pz73l9bi%252FjdVUQTRER7FMU%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/url]

[QUOTE=pcptrade;14078982]It is the same card (serial # 0007845929)! First sold by PWCC auction for $7050 on Sep 26th and then sold for $4638 on Nov 8th. The bidder (ebay feedback score of 13) who won the PWCC auction is no longer a registered ebay user. The seller (ebay feedback score of 2020) of the auction which ended yesterday never bid on the PWCC auction.

[url]https://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Bowman-Chrome-Mike-Trout-Gold-Refractor-50-Rookie-BGS-Gem-Mint-9-5-/123380134608?hash=item1cba0772d0%3Ag%3ABCIAAOSwlv9boutC&nma=true&si=Oq2k9pz73l9bi%252FjdVUQTRER7FMU%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/url]

[url]https://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Bowman-Chrome-Mike-Trout-Gold-Refractor-50-Rookie-BGS-Gem-Mint-9-5-/123463671951?hash=item1cbf02208f%3Ag%3ABCIAAOSwlv9boutC&nma=true&si=Oq2k9pz73l9bi%252FjdVUQTRER7FMU%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/url][/QUOTE]

And??

Maybe the most recent seller was the original owner of the card that consigned to PWCC and when the shill bidder didn't pay he opted to have it returned to him...

[QUOTE=mlbexpert;14078994]And??

Maybe the most recent seller was the original owner of the card that consigned to PWCC and when the shill bidder didn't pay he opted to have it returned to him...[/QUOTE]

That is the most plausible explanantion! Look at the automatic bids. There were two shill bidders (beyond $3930) and looks like ebay suspended both their accounts-

[url]https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/123380134608?item=123380134608&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&showauto=true[/url]

Just shows how unreliable and untrustworthy PWCC auctions sales can be sometimes.

[QUOTE=pcptrade;14079008]That is the most plausible explanantion! Look at the automatic bids. There were two shill bidders (beyond $3930) and looks like ebay suspended both their accounts-

[url]https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/123380134608?item=123380134608&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&showauto=true[/url]

Just shows how unreliable and untrustworthy PWCC auctions sales can be sometimes.[/QUOTE]

What are you talking about? That's not a PWCC auction.

[QUOTE=jjeanius;14079058]What are you talking about? That's not a PWCC auction.[/QUOTE]

My fault. Don't know why was I thinking it was PWCC. I was looking at Trout's bowman chrome Golf Refractor PSA 10 sale by PWCC and got mixed up. :doh: Both auctions were by the same seller.

[QUOTE=KhalDrogo;14078688]The later. We talked about it in the 2018 thread somewhere.[/QUOTE]I'm not going thru 300 pages to find it. Anyone happen to remember about it and give me a quick summary. I'm mostly interested about the history of the card since the picture is unique to all of Trout's other RC cards.

[QUOTE=KhalDrogo;14078688]The later. We talked about it in the 2018 thread somewhere.[/QUOTE]

If you notice the differences in the cards 2011 bowman cards, his weight is 200, 215 and then this one says 217. It is a fake btw, look at his other auctions.

[QUOTE=bwalter1;14079801]If you notice the differences in the cards 2011 bowman cards, his weight is 200, 215 and then this one says 217. It is a fake btw, look at his other auctions.[/QUOTE]
He’s a board member. Here’s where he discusses the card.

[url]https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpost.php?p=13583311&postcount=2150[/url]

Here’s an example of a proof sheet.

[url]http://feb14.hugginsandscott.com/cgi-bin/showitem.pl?itemid=65572[/url]

Not really fake. Just definitely not pack inserted, and the auto was added after. Hence the blue flip.

I also take issue with his claim that this card was "meant to be included in the set, but the card wasn't produced / signed in time". IMO that is total BS. This was just a prototype card - a test sample for set design purposes, etc...and it was never meant for release. And then the auto was added after the fact IP.

Yeah - cool novelty, but nothing more. It's not a "real" card.

[QUOTE=jjeanius;14080438]I also take issue with his claim that this card was "meant to be included in the set, but the card wasn't produced / signed in time". IMO that is total BS. This was just a prototype card - a test sample for set design purposes, etc...and it was never meant for release. And then the auto was added after the fact IP.

[B]Yeah - cool novelty, but nothing more. It's not a "real" card[/B].[/QUOTE]

Totally agree. Easy pass on this card

[QUOTE=KhalDrogo;14079881]He’s a board member. Here’s where he discusses the card.

[url]https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpost.php?p=13583311&postcount=2150[/url]

Here’s an example of a proof sheet.

[url]http://feb14.hugginsandscott.com/cgi-bin/showitem.pl?itemid=65572[/url]

Not really fake. Just definitely not pack inserted, and the auto was added after. Hence the blue flip.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I wouldn't mind having a sheet of superfractors like that. Would be kind of neat.

[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181113/aa552219c25f7c721753c7e214fb3d72.jpg[/IMG]

My best fish!

[QUOTE=kidfan9;14087971][IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181113/aa552219c25f7c721753c7e214fb3d72.jpg[/IMG]

My best fish![/QUOTE]

I want one of those.

If I could only squeeze another .5 out of it...

Read a post on twitter today (not that I’ve checked or believe everything on Twitter) that said Mike Trout has not gone more than two consecutive games without reaching base since 2012.

Very random, but unbelievably impressive.

[QUOTE=pitch21;14090132]Read a post on twitter today (not that I’ve checked or believe everything on Twitter) that said Mike Trout has not gone more than two consecutive games without reaching base since 2012.

Very random, but unbelievably impressive.[/QUOTE]



Reminds me of something I read on the back of a Frank Thomas card I have:

[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181114/abe1c5d455c438e8e9f1aeba754798ea.jpg[/IMG]

This was through the 2002 season, he was a rookie in 1990.

Back to your regularly scheduled Trout talk



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Looks like PWCC had some pretty nice stuff ending tonight! Anybody pick up anything exciting?

i struck out!

[QUOTE=ThoseBackPages;14093817]i struck out![/QUOTE]

TRY. HARDER!!

You need to BID if you want to WIN! :p

[QUOTE=jjeanius;14093824]TRY. HARDER!!

You need to BID if you want to WIN! :p[/QUOTE]

gotta pay to play!

Besides the base, how many versions of the 2012 Topps Update are there? I have a Walmart and Gold Sparkle, and know of Walmart, Gold and Black.


Any others?


Thanks fellas

[QUOTE=jjeanius;14093805]Looks like PWCC had some pretty nice stuff ending tonight! Anybody pick up anything exciting?[/QUOTE]

Sadly no, but would’ve loved to grab that Sterling Ref

Holy moly! That 2015 Topps Opening Day Photo Variation (On Deck) PSA 10 sold for over $1k!?

Anyone here won it?

I have to admit that photo looks amazing on that card!

[IMG]https://cconnect.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/2015-Topps-Opening-Day-Variation-77-Mike-Trout-211x300.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Neal;14093862]Besides the base, how many versions of the 2012 Topps Update are there? I have a Walmart and Gold Sparkle, and know of Walmart, Gold and Black.


Any others?


Thanks fellas[/QUOTE]

I think it’s base, gold, gold sparkle, Walmart blue, target red, factory set orange (/210?), and black

[QUOTE=jjeanius;14093805]Looks like PWCC had some pretty nice stuff ending tonight! Anybody pick up anything exciting?[/QUOTE]

Lost out on the finest x-fractor, came in 2nd. Set the sniper at 4k, winner is going to be furious!