My approach to Acuna is this: (granted I liked him prior to the bump as I bought a gold shimmer for $375). if his end of the year numbers are very respectively (.320 AVG + , 10+ HR) going into the offseason, the hype will be unreal. Those numbers got Jurickson Profar a #1 ranking.

He could fall off in the next 3 months and still "look good." Or, he could keep his torrid pace and be in the discussion for the top prospect in baseball. Or, he could reeeaaallly fall off and have terrible numbers at the end of the year, the least likely option.

[QUOTE=imbluestreak23;12353252]My approach to Acuna is this: (granted I liked him prior to the bump as I bought a gold shimmer for $375). if his end of the year numbers are very respectively (.320 AVG + , 10+ HR) going into the offseason, the hype will be unreal. Those numbers got Jurickson Profar a #1 ranking.

He could fall off in the next 3 months and still "look good." Or, he could keep his torrid pace and be in the discussion for the top prospect in baseball. Or, he could reeeaaallly fall off and have terrible numbers at the end of the year, the least likely option.[/QUOTE]

So your opinion is that anything could happen. Bold statement. Way to really drive that point home! lol

These threads are hilarious, guys that didn't buy him come up with some stat they feel will bring a prospect down to earth .. Lol.. Bichette and Soto have crazy high BABIP, do we sell those guys to ? Acuna is a very unusual player who is always going to have a crazy high batting average on balls in play, your talking 200 at bats now people in two very pitcher friendly leagues no less, at how old ?? Read the comments from opposing managers and real scouts that have seen him play this year .. This guy may not keep this insane pace up, but he is the real deal and is one of the top talents in all of minor league baseball


[QUOTE=Ashieft;12352639]Yup Robles (devers?) seem like wayyyyy better investments.

525 BABIP which lets say settles in at 350 BABIP. That's a 175 point drop.

A 175 point drop at a 415 ba is what? 240?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Packerfan;12353272]So your opinion is that anything could happen. Bold statement. Way to really drive that point home! lol[/QUOTE]

Well...I'm buying...and I stated that 1/3 of the options are bad but highly unlikely...so one could use deductive reasoning to come to a conclusion about what I think will happen. That's just me

[QUOTE=steelers;12353290]These threads are hilarious, guys that didn't buy him come up with some stat they feel will bring a prospect down to earth .. [/QUOTE]

Agreed

[QUOTE=steelers;12353290]These threads are hilarious, guys that didn't buy him come up with some stat they feel will bring a prospect down to earth .. Lol.. Bichette and Soto have crazy high BABIP, do we sell those guys to ? Acuna is a very unusual player who is always going to have a crazy high batting average on balls in play, your talking 200 at bats now people in two very pitcher friendly leagues no less, at how old ?? Read the comments from opposing managers and real scouts that have seen him play this year .. This guy may not keep this insane pace up, but he is the real deal and is one of the top talents in all of minor league baseball[/QUOTE]

You got it my friend.... he was a great buy at 55 a base, now he is topping Tucker and Robles. I think the talent is there for sure, but so are the prices. To those who have none, I'd consider picking up at least one for the huge upside.

[QUOTE=steelers;12353290]These threads are hilarious, guys that didn't buy him come up with some stat they feel will bring a prospect down to earth .. Lol.. Bichette and Soto have crazy high BABIP, do we sell those guys to ? Acuna is a very unusual player who is always going to have a crazy high batting average on balls in play, your talking 200 at bats now people in two very pitcher friendly leagues no less, at how old ?? Read the comments from opposing managers and real scouts that have seen him play this year .. This guy may not keep this insane pace up, but he is the real deal and is one of the top talents in all of minor league baseball[/QUOTE]

B-I-N-G-O . Everyone was raving about him this past winter and in spring training. They talked about how he played like he belonged on the big league club and he hadn't played above Low A. More people would be talking about the kid if he didnt hurt his hand in May last year.

[QUOTE=steelers;12353290]These threads are hilarious, guys that didn't buy him come up with some stat they feel will bring a prospect down to earth .. Lol.. Bichette and Soto have crazy high BABIP, do we sell those guys to ? Acuna is a very unusual player who is always going to have a crazy high batting average on balls in play, your talking 200 at bats now people in two very pitcher friendly leagues no less, at how old ?? Read the comments from opposing managers and real scouts that have seen him play this year .. This guy may not keep this insane pace up, but he is the real deal and is one of the top talents in all of minor league baseball[/QUOTE]

He is just a no doubt about it talent. There are always posts on here that don't make sense. People are acting like Devers or Gleyber or Robles aren't as good as advertised, it's insane. From a investment standpoint if you buy now they will at the very least be more valuable than they are today around callup because they are hyped top tier popular team prospects. Acuna on the Braves would have a ton of hype.

From a MLB star potential standpoint of course it's more difficult to determine but there is nothing that is scaring any major scouts or writers about these guys. It's all positive.

Back to cards, my only point about Acuna is that he is SO high for his current rankings and he literally just went up a level so AAA or the bigs are remote at 19 and he has to come down slightly at some point. So buying a ref at $170 is just not a good buy right now to me. Doesn't mean it can't be $750 in 2 years, doesn't mean it can't be $200 later this year. But the risk reward if you get in this late is definitely different than if you bought earlier.

[QUOTE=Tarheelsfan2012;12353533]B-I-N-G-O . Everyone was raving about him this past winter and in spring training. They talked about how he played like he belonged on the big league club and he hadn't played above Low A. More people would be talking about the kid if he didnt hurt his hand in May last year.[/QUOTE]



Can you imagine what Andruw's chrome autos would have sold for IF he had one?

Acuna is a more complete Andruw Jones. The prices seem pretty cheap.

[QUOTE=dasiegel;12353609]He is just a no doubt about it talent. There are always posts on here that don't make sense. People are acting like Devers or Gleyber or Robles aren't as good as advertised, it's insane. From a investment standpoint if you buy now they will at the very least be more valuable than they are today around callup because they are hyped top tier popular team prospects. Acuna on the Braves would have a ton of hype.

From a MLB star potential standpoint of course it's more difficult to determine but there is nothing that is scaring any major scouts or writers about these guys. It's all positive.

Back to cards, my only point about Acuna is that he is SO high for his current rankings and he literally just went up a level so AAA or the bigs are remote at 19 and he has to come down slightly at some point. So buying a ref at $170 is just not a good buy right now to me. Doesn't mean it can't be $750 in 2 years, doesn't mean it can't be $200 later this year. But the risk reward if you get in this late is definitely different than if you bought earlier.[/QUOTE]



You pay attention to rankings? They lost me when Judge never made it into the top ten but Moniak made the top 15. Acuna and Maitan were both top 15 talents BEFORE the season started. And mark my words... Kevin Maitan will be the #1 prospect in baseball in less than two years. Acuna is just behind him in talent and upside. Once a decade prospects.

[QUOTE=RossOK;12353200]Acuna Maitan-a , y'all.[/QUOTE]

Fixed it for you......

Keep these threads coming!! Putting up a prayer that my Acunas come back from BGS with gold labels :)

[QUOTE=rcspur;12353653]You pay attention to rankings? They lost me when Judge never made it into the top ten but Moniak made the top 15. Acuna and Maitan were both top 15 talents BEFORE the season started. And mark my words... Kevin Maitan will be the #1 prospect in baseball in less than two years. Acuna is just behind him in talent and upside. Once a decade prospects.[/QUOTE]

I do. I mean it is a fun read but I trust my own evals more than theirs and buy accordingly. I feel good prospectors need to know the lists because the sheep listen to them and it does affect who is valued and where prices go.

Acuna may be the best example, here is BA's ranking

#67 Hit: 55 | Power: 50 | Speed: 60 | Fielding: 60 | Arm: 50 | ETA: 2019

Me looking at the stats will not act like I know what scouts know about say his fielding or his arm but his bat, which is what sells is more like a 65 and his power more like a 55-60. He has 26 SBs already this year so the speed looks 65 possibly 70.

And the stats don't lie. He is killing the ball and looks like he'll be up in 2018 and could possibly even see some time this year if they continue their crazy, quick promotions.

But nobody will see my rankings, they will see BA, MLB, Prospectus, etc. If he goes from #67 to only like #26 because they see field concerns it is way different than if they put him top 10 where I would.

[QUOTE=rcspur;12353653]You pay attention to rankings? They lost me when Judge never made it into the top ten but Moniak made the top 15. Acuna and Maitan were both top 15 talents BEFORE the season started. And mark my words... Kevin Maitan will be the #1 prospect in baseball in less than two years. Acuna is just behind him in talent and upside. Once a decade prospects.[/QUOTE]

what makes you think Maitan will be the #1 prospect? :coffee:

So many guys light up the minor leagues and end up like Dallas McPherson or Brandon Wood and the list could go on. What happened to Buxton? Cant miss right. It is fun to watch these players make it big but most often they end up average players.

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[QUOTE=armstrong;12353984]what makes you think Maitan will be the #1 prospect? :coffee:[/QUOTE]

He's better than Gleyber Torres so why not?

Kid just keeps on hitting.


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[QUOTE=Bcwcardz;12354005]So many guys light up the minor leagues and end up like Dallas McPherson or Brandon Wood and the list could go on. What happened to Buxton? Cant miss right. It is fun to watch these players make it big but most often they end up average players.

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I'm as prospect crazy as anyone. It's just fun and adds a new element to the hobby. That said, I agree with your point. Anyone can go back through the archives of Baseball America's organization top 10 rankings each year and see that most amount to nothing. For every Kris Bryant, there are 10 Joel Guzmans or Brien Taylors.

First AAA game..3-5 with a dinger. Not bad for a teenager...

Hype City!@!@!@!@!@!@@@!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!

Bump.. because why the hell not. Kid has been in beast mode all season long and keeps getting better!

3rd str8 game with a HR

and 4th HR in the last 5 games.

I'm guessing he will be BA #1 prior to next season.


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[QUOTE=drstrader5;12650588]I'm guessing he will be BA #1 prior to next season.


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Vlad Jr was #2 on mid season ranking.

Guessing he might be #1. Gleyber likely top 5 again.

Moncada, Rosario and Devers will likely fall off.

Acuna and Senzel should see a nice jump.. possibly both into the top 5

[QUOTE=Ferg1945;12650613]Vlad Jr was #2 on mid season ranking.

Guessing he might be #1. Gleyber likely top 5 again.

Moncada, Rosario and Devers will likely fall off.

Acuna and Senzel should see a nice jump.. possibly both into the top 5[/QUOTE]

Gotta add Eloy into the top 5 somewhere I'd say. I could see Eloy, Acuna or Baby Vlad at number one and I wouldn't argue any of the 3